23rd June: Paagalpan & Pressure (Kes-Gul)

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Real love is a kind of madness. It is dangerous because it breaks you open, it sets you on fire...
I got to admit i liked the whole scene, yesterday last bit we all saw was Kesar in a heartwrenching way Gulaal Gulaal Gulaal, and today we see the same thing but what i liked about this was that it showed somehow it disturbed Gulaal as she was sleeping, it felt soulful in a way and also then the sudden Gulaal outside the house and Gulaal awake, and not only that even Gulaal's parents.. i think Gulaal in a way isnt suprised to see Kesar like this, coz remember he has done this before in a way, barging into her room - remember the pareshani scene and so on..., is it just me or did the in-laws kinda like what they heard Kesar was saying!? lol
Whatever Kesar does, it will affect her in whatever way she displays it, and we saw it last night - even when she went back to bed, though she had to be sure he wasnt out there still screaming her name (and even i am glad he stopped) and then went back to bed,
All Kesar is doing right now its begging her to come home and his paagalpan (seeing as that is what he and she is calling it) eating away at him... no-one is gonna listen to him in this state but one thing it will do and did in a way, is make aware of him and get to Gulaal in a way, and not only that it seems it got to his in-laws and also Reva, you know Reva wasnt wrong in what she said as well, in what he is doing and whose house it is and atleast think about that, i think Gulaal might be the one who sent Reva to go and see Kesar
I kinda had a feeling that Gulaal first thought will be Kesar when she gets up and to check by her window, and also had a feeling Kesar had stayed all night there
Gulaal's dad was right, Gulaal would die then go back to that house (but we can see that she does miss that house and the ppl, when talking to Talli, its not just her in-laws home, or Vasant's - but her home as well) despite how much lecturing her mum gives her and so on, and yeah from a mother's pov she is right but this situation isnt a typical one is it, and that Gulaal can just go with it and feel what she doesnt feel and so on... and then it was nice to see Poonambha says what she did after that as a mother she worries for her and so on
I liked the D and Kesar scene, only coz i felt that D was giving him abit of advice which was good advice... let take out for a second what D did in the past and so on and see what adive he gave, D is right in saying that you cant force Gulaal to something and leave her to be right now, give time and space - and i also say that D was saying this from how he knows Gulaal from the past and so on, Kesar is not willing to listen to anyone even if he did listen to his sister but like Reva said she had to stern with him, to make him go and well we know why Kesar wont listen to D, but D was somewhat right, esp how he started the convo and so on
Gulaal's soch on thinking Kesar's feelings would go away or fade away if she stays away from him... isnt that the very thing that has kept Kesar pulling towards her in the last 10 years, him staying away from her, yearning and longing for her, however much Gulaal tries to fight and label Kesar's love, what it remains will be love - in distance, in time and in whatever form and feelings
Talli is fine, we know she is fine - the moment we all knew she was fine when we saw that she knows Gulaal never gave her a false promise and that has carried on, and that she still holds Gulaal and loves Gulaal as before.. they are close and have been and it showed in the scene we saw today, it was good that Talli told her she is fine and will be... as for Kesar, she loves him - so much heartbreaking comes from him whenever she is near and him and cant talk to him, or cant bear to. And she knows and understood that Kesar loves Gulaal, like Kesar says she indeed has a big heart in a way i guess
What can we say about JK, she always says things that are right in a sense but in a way that seems harsh, coz of how she talks lol, but she was right that she knew where Kesar was and where then Paanbha did and so on...
When are we gonna see Kesar unshaved, i miss the clean shaven Kesar and that Kesar 😉
PRECAP - Kesar what are you doing... despite he wants Gulaal back in the house, he is going the wrong way about it to an extent, only coz to most of us and the viewers it looks like he forcing it which he is... and you can see that D is gonna feel uncomfortable as well, and maybe some of would think that its the only way Gulaal will come back
D knows that forcing Gulaal is not gonna achieve anything as such, coz he himself has seen the way Gulaal behaves and has been
You cannot judge a girl by what she's done (or does) until you've looked into her past and walked a mile in her shoes
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Posted: 14 years ago
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[quote]I got to admit i liked the whole scene, yesterday last bit we all saw was Kesar in a heartwrenching way Gulaal Gulaal Gulaal, and today we see the same thing but what i liked about this was that it showed somehow it disturbed Gulaal as she was sleeping, it felt soulful in a way [/quote]

That was a beautiful touch 😳 I wanted to see something like this.

The entire scene was heartwrenching even though in practical terms he was making a scene no doubt. He's helpless and out of control! Gulaal was affected bt she very well knows how to block out unwanted feelings (her own and Kesar's).

I said in my topic how its amazing that Gulaal knows him well enough to check outside for Kesar the next morning yet she acts so ignorant towards his feelings. How will staying away from him help? :s Those 10 years accelerated his love for her so what does she expect to happen in these few days?😛 Galool lives in her own world doesn't she!

Dushyant's advice would have come handy just if Kesar listened to him but we knew he wouldn't.

Eeeks...I'm excited to see her back in the house =) G v K (hopefully). Lennie, I'm sure you will get your patient Kesar once Gulaal returns 😳
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Gulaal is in MAJOR denial...and not denial of the usual sort ki "I love him but won't accept it"...No, her denial has to do with her refusal to give credence to Kesar, his feelings in ANY form...no matter WHAT he says...today he pleaded with her as that lost 12 year old boy again...the one she probably felt the closest connection to...he asked her as well..."Tu bhool kyun jaati hai ki main TERA Kesar hoon?" I thought that was a very significant line...but amazing that nothing penetrates the thick shell this woman has built around herself...lol...she just has put up this big WALL when it comes to anything to do with Kesar.

Multiple ppl told her in this episode that Kesar is suffering a lot...but each time you can see that she just doesn't WANT to listen...the shutters are drawn tight...She still thinks that only SHE knows the right way to "solve this problem" of Kesar as she sees it...and that's by staying away to let his "lagaav" die a natural death...

In all honesty, Kesar's desperate behavior really doesn't help this situation much either...it gives more fuel to her claim that he's being childish, doesn't know what he wants...but then with Kesar, everything is real and upfront...he doesn't have it in him to hide the most raw of his emotions either...


Kesar's scene with Dushyant was interesting...and yes, Dushyant is the last person that Kesar is going to listen to anyways...lol...but otherwise D was right in that you can't force Gulaal...that they need to let her be...however this does clash with D's ruling in the panchaayat so I don't get why he's saying that G needs to be left alone...it seems contradictory. But Kesar asserted himself in that scene and snubbed D...lol...telling him he knows what he has to do...

I do think Kesar had to use this approach ultimately...that is why they showed this ruling of the panchayat to begin with...cuz Gulaal instantly resisted the decision back then also...Kesar feels he's been driven to this point...and you know what's interesting? Last time Gulaal took the matter to the panchayat for her own means...cuz she was confident of a ruling in her favor...but the tables turned...and now Kesar is probably taking a page from her book and doing the same...involving the panchayat since the direct approach didn't work on Gulaal in any way...lol

Basically, Gulaal needs to come back home...and all other options have been exhausted...she won't bow down to anything but this sort of blackmail...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

[quote]I got to admit i liked the whole scene, yesterday last bit we all saw was Kesar in a heartwrenching way Gulaal Gulaal Gulaal, and today we see the same thing but what i liked about this was that it showed somehow it disturbed Gulaal as she was sleeping, it felt soulful in a way [/quote]


That was a beautiful touch 😳 I wanted to see something like this. Definately that bit lifted the scene for me from the start

The entire scene was heartwrenching even though in practical terms he was making a scene no doubt. He's helpless and out of control! Gulaal was affected bt she very well knows how to block out unwanted feelings (her own and Kesar's). He is out of control no doubt, and so on - but Gulaal knows that Kesar acts sometimes like this, she has seen it, even though today was abit too much esp after the love confession everything is abit too much esp as Kesar is going that, and to her it was one way of getting Kesar to leave is shut the window and also close off any feelings and so on, one thing i have to mention that she was quick to put her veil on her head, like that would be your first worry 😆 yeah but this is Gulaal lol

I said in my topic how its amazing that Gulaal knows him well enough to check outside for Kesar the next morning yet she acts so ignorant towards his love. How will staying away from him take away his feelings? :s Those 10 years accelerated his feelings so what does she expect to happen in these few days?😛 Galool lives in her own world doesn't she! We saw her trying to go to sleep to hear Kesar anymore whens he didnt she went back to bed, and like you say the first thought Kesar and could he be out there and so on.. well atleast it kinda made her aware that he did that even if she doesnt think much of it, but atleast we got some emotions and so on.
What Gulaal is hoping that it does go away (but seriously i think Gulaal has doubts as well on this) how can it, her being away just pulls him towards her more and more, and what she thinks will fade - the complete opposite will happen lol

Dushyant's advice would have come handy just if Kesar listened to him but we knew he wouldn't. Yep, only if he listened

Eeeks...I'm excited to see her back in the house =) G v K (hopefully). Lennie, I'm sure you will get your patient Kesar once Gulaal returns 😳 I hope you see that i dont mind Paagal Kesar as such (though i hate using desperation word for him), coz even i get why it makes him the way he is, but i am more for Patient lovable Kesar, with intensity, intense passion and so on and also i want him clean shaven, those eyes today seem so lost, and filled with restlessness
I like that idea Gulaal V Kesar 😉😆

Edited by Lennie - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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How could I forget Gulaal's signature 'let me put my chunar back on my head'. I was missing it though!🤣 Even at this point, she had to remember to do that. Why? She's so protective of her emotions.

I know. We all love the passionate Kesar 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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as usual nice update and nice thoughts.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

How could I forget Gulaal's signature 'let me put my chunar back on my head'. I was missing it though!🤣 Even at this point, she had to remember to do that. Why? She's so protective of her emotions.


I know. We all love the passionate Kesar 😳

Hide all her feelings, any part of her that makes her who she is and who she has been... father and daughter scene yesterday was an eye-opener esp as we had been saying the same thing about Gulaal the way she lives and so on, rountined her life around Vasant and so on, and who she is...
Passionate Kesar is the one with intensity!!!!Embarrassed
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Asha2010

as usual nice update and nice thoughts.

Thanks 😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lennie



D i have to say wasnt even questioning Kesar's love but just telling him to give her space and time and so on... which i have to say i think D needs to handle Kesar in a good way obviously even though Kesar isnt willing to listen to anything That's true...and it's understandable why he would also advice Kesar to give Gulaal some space...but then he should approach Kesar better as well...already there is mistrust in their relationship so I guess that will always be at the back of Kesar's mind...he will never trust D's motives for telling him anything...I don't think even D understands Kesar's NEED to just have Gulaal's PRESENCE back in the house.

Clever Kesar then lol, see on one hand this works, coz you think yep this is the last resort he has to use to get her back, and but then on the other hand you think, Kesar you are forcing it and so on, and you know what i dont think Kesar has any clue what he is do around her when she gets back to the house, doubt he has even thought that far lol LOL yes Kesar will be forcing her in a sense but then every other direct approach has not worked with Gulaal...and yes if she does come back, this will lead to the next set of problems b/w them since she will resent him for forcing her...but then in the larger scheme of things, that very conflict will be interesting to watch...we all know that they are going to clash invariably...yes, Kesar has most definitely not thought of anything beyond getting her back to the house...that is his only immediate concern, that's it...baaki ki baad mein...Kesar doesn't know how to think long term😆


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Posted: 14 years ago
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You know what I liked about that 'soul connection' moment?! Usually you will see the other person jump up suddenly, making it quite dramatic but in todays scene, Gulaal was shown to be just woken up as if something was disturbing her. She simply looked over her shoulder to see if something is there. It's very subtle but impactful

Of course when Kesar is actually there she had to get up with a jerk. His voice was quite frightening.
Edited by *Reemz* - 14 years ago

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