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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: abhijit shukla



Another example of two entirely differen rendition of Gulzar poetry is 'is mod se jaate haiN' - one of course lata-Kishore duet from 'andhi'. Another a wonderful one by Bhupi on 'woh jo shayar tha'.
BTW 'Andhi' was verymuch based on Indira Gandhi's political career - was actually banned during emergency. Trick Gulzar thinly veiled the fact by just removing the letter 'G' from 'Gandhi.'

Andhi was a great movie by Gulzar 👏👏👏

A similar case where the same Gulzar ghazal was rendered in 2 different ways is the ghazal 'Shaam se aankh me nami si hai'

This was first sung by Asha'ji on Pancham's music in the non-film album 'Dil Padosi hai'... Later ofcourse Jagjit had it as a part of his ghazals for 'Marasim' - though the later version became more popular, I think Asha'ji did a brilliant job in her version too

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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: abhijit shukla

Of course in 'tu hi tu' from 'Dil Se' 'Ishq par zor naheeN...' is whispered.

He did borow 'Zihal-e- Miskin" from amir khushro in Ghulami.

Someone else did 'patta patta boota boota haal hamarajane haiN' I believe it was Meer. I might be wayyyyyy off though.



WoW - I never noticed that before - thanks😊
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Posted: 19 years ago

Originally posted by: abhijit shukla




Another example of two entirely differen rendition of Gulzar poetry is 'is mod se jaate haiN' - one of course lata-Kishore duet from 'andhi'. Another a wonderful one by Bhupi on 'woh jo shayar tha'.
BTW 'Andhi' was verymuch based on Indira Gandhi's political career - was actually banned during emergency. Trick Gulzar thinly veiled the fact by just removing the letter 'G' from 'Gandhi.'



I liked the movie too 😊

Is mod se jaate hain - (2)
Kuchh sust qadam raste kuchh tez qadam raahe - (2)
Patthar ki haveli ko shishe ke gharaundo mein
Tinko ke nasheman tak is mod se jaate hain
Aa…Is mod se jaate hain

Aandhi ki tarha ud kar ik raah guzarti hai - (2)
Sharmaati huwi koyi qadmo se utarti hai
In reshmi raaho mein ik raah to woh hogi
Tum tak jo pahonchti hai is mod se jaati hai
Is mod se jaate hain

Ik door se aati hai paas aake palat-ti hai - (2)
Ik raah akeli si ruktii hai na chalti hai
Ye soch ke baithhi hu ik raah to woh hogi
Tum tak jo pahonchti hai is mod se jaati hai
Is mod se jaate hain - (2)
Kuchh sust qadam raste kuchh tez qadam raahe
Patthar ki haveli ko shishe ke gharaundo mein
Tinko ke nasheman tak is mod se jaate hain
Aa…Is mod se jaate hain
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Posted: 19 years ago

Gulzar - The poet

Just a request - whoever can read urdu on the forum, can we please have the lines read out in Hindi if possible... Thanks for the same

Gulzar wears many intellectual hats. He is a film director, known for making sensitive movies, a short story writer, and a lyricist who has penned many a soul-stirring song for Indian films. But the title that Gulzar, as those who know him believe, wishes to be associated with is that of a poet. For poetry is his first love.

Born on August 18, 1936 in Dina (now in Pakistan), Sampooran Singh (his real name) migrated to Delhi after partition in 1947. He began his professional career in the film industry as assistant to the renowned auteur, Bimal Roy. Initially, he also wrote some songs for Bimal Roy's "Bandini". It is said that the first ever song that he wrote was Mora gora ang laee le. Later on, in the early 70s, he himself took to filmmaking and carved a niche for himself by producing films ("Aandhi", "Merey Apney", "Maachis", etc) that were markedly different from what the others were offering. To date, films remain his bread and butter.

But poetry is food for his soul. So far Gulzar has published quite a few collections of Hindi and Urdu poems and their English translations all of which have attracted a huge readership. From his first collection Ek Boond Chaand (Hindi) published in 1962 to Raat Pashminey ki (Urdu), which hit the newsstands in 2002, Gulzar's poetic offerings have been received with tremendous clat. In between Mera Kuch Samaan (Hindi song collection), Chhaya Chhaya (Hindi song collection), Janam (Hindi), Chauras Raat (Urdu) and Chaand Pukhraj Ka (Urdu) also made many critics and poetry buffs acknowledge his literary worth.

A famous publishing house a few years ago published yet another book by Gulzar, Triveni. The astonishing feature of this collection was the genre Triveni that the poet seems to have invented. It's a three-line composition in which the first two lines converge like the rivers Ganges and Jamuna, whereas the third startles the reader like a strong, invisible stream of Saraswati, taking the meaning of the above two lines at a tangent.

Although his short stories' collections are not as prolific as his poetry, but a few tales from two of his books Dhuuan and Raavi Paar have often been grouped with some of the all time great short literary pieces. For Dhuuan, the master writer has been awarded the prestigious Sahitya Academy award. Not only that, the government of India has conferred on him the national honour of Padmabhushan as well. But since Gulzar's preferred form in literature is poetry, one should throw light on some of its salient features.

One doesn't know where critics of Urdu and Hindi literature at a later date will place Gulzar's poetry. However, there is no doubt about the fact that what Gulzar has been able to create through his verse over the last four decades or so is something that's peculiar, unique and quite unlike the conventional patterns and norms of Urdu poetry produced in the 20th century.

Gulzar's poetry is replete with images - images that utter words, which inexplicably don't seem to convey any meaning, yet re-transform into images and splash colours onto the canvas of imagination. This might not make sense, though one could call it surrealistic poetry, which communicates before it is understood. Take for example a minimalist nazm from Chaand Pukhraj Ka



The nazm is a confluence of a number of images. They don't seem to gel; yet once they conflate into a whole, there is something intrinsic in them that titillates the brain and make the reader feel it with a certain psycho-emotional appeal. It's a dream-like scene: a chair here, a semi-ajar door there and you wake up trying to construct the sequence, with a strange sense of literariness.

It's not that this is the only hallmark of Gulzar's poetry. His nazms and ghazals often convey the issue quite lucidly that the poet tries to touch upon in a rather oblique way. Especially his ghazals are not as convoluted as his free verse. Consider these couplets:



Simplicity is the keynote of the overall auditory value of Gulzar's ghazal. It falls easy on the ears. But notice the last couplet where Gulzar once again resorts to imagism - something that he doesn't seem to have control over. His poetic technique doesn't allow the reader to try and make sense of the words that he is employing; rather, it's the entire scene that he creates which speaks for itself. It is often said about writers that a person has thoughts and he writes them down as words. Later, others read them and the poet's thoughts become theirs. With Gulzar this is not the case. He doesn't let, perhaps unwittingly, the reader own his thoughts, though he easily communicates his message. Not a mean feat.

This does not imply at all that the poet is an introvert. It's just that, like any other verse-wielding genius, all his creative endeavours begin on a personal note and subsequently broaden their scope.

For example, it is a known fact that Gulzar hasn't come to grips with the partition. He has composed a few very heart-rending poems on the subject. And it's not just partition, but also the terrible class strife and communal tensions that have plagued India for half a century, that appear to nibble at his soul. In Raat Pashminey Ki, there is a six-part nazm "Fasadat". It is a poignant piece on the Hindu-Muslim riots that often break out and immensely disturb a sensitive writer. Part six of the nazm reads:



One may call it gory poetry. But at the heart of it lies the sensitivity of an artist to whom human life is not a dispensable commodity. Here again notice the vivid imagery, albeit a tad unsavoury.

Known for his socialist bent of mind, Gulzar has of late taken a liking to sufism. Some of his recent film songs and ghazals are an ample testimony to that. Recently, this caused some debate in the literary circles of the subcontinent. One guesses, age and spirituality go hand in hand. Besides, who would argue the fact that one looks for more than just flesh and blood identity. This holds true at least for creative people. That's why they constantly engage themselves in the process of creating.

In the foreword to Raat Pashminey Ki, Ahmed Nadeem Qasmi, who Gulzar fondly calls Baba, writes: "It pleasantly surprises me to know that born in Jhelum and brought up in the environs of Mumbai and Delhi, Gulzar has been so original that this feature of his poetry (originality) has become synonymous with his personality. Who else but Gulzar could see the moon in the shape of a dry leaf and wonder if it would be carried on the breeze onto his lawn?" Even if you're not a fan of Qasmi Sahib, it's hard to dispute his comment on Gulzar.

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Posted: 19 years ago
Thanks a ton Dawn'ji - you are just great 👏
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Posted: 19 years ago
Gulzar!!

Gulzar was Born in Deena(Now in Pakistan) on 18th August, 1936. After partition he came to Delhi. Gulzar - aka Sampooran Singh began his film career as an assistant to Bimal Roy. He started writing songs for films with bimal da's Bandini. Mora Gora Ang Layee Le is supposed to be his first song. Although His first film to be released was Kabuli Wala, which also had some all time greats like E mere pyare watan and Ganga aaye kahan se. After getting recognition as a sensitive lyricist, he started writing scripts and stories for films. Then with Mere Apne in 1971, He turned Director. Since then he has given us lots of beautiful, serious and funny moments through his movies. He has written stories for around 60 films and directed 17 movies, each one a masterpiece.

During 1987-1996 he went away from the seen as he did only 7 films as lyricist and 2 as director in the span of 10 years. After the success of Maachis, He is now again in the picture. His latest venture HU TU TU received critical acclaim. Recently He has won the best lyricist Filmfare award for Dil-Se. Long live Gulzar.

Achievments
1976 Best Director Filmfare :: Mausam
1976 Best Lyricist National Award 'Mera Kuchh Saaman' - Ijaazat
Best Lyricist Filmfare - 'Do diwane shahar mein' :: Gharonda
Filmfare -'Aanewala pal jaane wala hai' - Golmaal - 1979
Filmfare -'Hazar rahen mud ke dekhi' - Thodi si bewafai - 1980
Filmfare -'Tujhse naraaz nahin zindagi' - Masoom - 1983
Filmfare -'Mera kuchh saamaan' - Ijaazat - 1988
Filmfare -'Yaara sili sili virah ki raat' - Lekin - 1991
Filmfare -'Chal Chhaiyya Chhaiyya Chhaiyya' - Dil Se - 1998
Best Dialouges Filmfare :: Anand - 1971
Filmfare :: Namak Haram - 1973
Filmfare :: Maachis - 1996
Best Storywriter Filmfare :: Maachis -1996
Best Feature Film (Critics) Filmfare :: Aandhi - 1975
Best Documentary Filmfare :: Amzad Ali Khan - 1990


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Posted: 19 years ago
You have to get the lingo right

Posted online: Friday, April 28, 2006 at 0000 hours IST

Gulzar has had a busy year, from foot-tapping 'Kajra re...' to the Commonwealth Games. The lyricist bares his heart in a brief chat... How did you land the Commonwealth Games closing ceremony number?
I had done lyrics for several sporting events before, including the time when the Olympic torch arrived in India last year. That is probably why the organisers turned to me.

Kajrare... was clearly the song of 2005. And the lyrics were unusual, with English words thrown in...
Well. I did not have to make any extra effort in the case of Kajrare... I chose the words to reflect the characters in Bunty Aur Babli. I took the cue from the screenplay. Remember, the boy and girl in the film are small-town people given to throwing around a smattering of angrezi. The girl has after all run away from a Punjabi household to become a beauty queen. The success of a song lies in getting the lingo right.

Hasn't Kajrare... shocked the lovers of your poetry a bit?
Probably, but this isn't the first time I have used English words in my songs. It is because Kajrare... is such a huge hit that people are scrutinising the number so closely. Anyway, Kajrare... isn't devoid of poetry. Isn't Teri baaton mein kimaam ki khushboo hai, tera aana hi garmiyon ki lu hain... poetry? In any case, there is more to the Bunty Aur Babli lyrics than Kajrare... In the Chup chupke... number, for instance, I was allowed flights of poetic fancy like Dekhna mere sar se aasmaan ud gaya hai, aasmaan ke sire khul gaye hai zameen se... It's true that you don't get many such opportunities these days. I am hoping for a few more in Mani Ratnam's Guru.

Are you writing lyrics for more such films?
Like Maqbool, Vishal Bharadwaj's Omkaara is set in the underworld. The action takes place in and around the town of Meerut. So I have to write lines like Beedi jalai le jigar ma badi aag hai... For Shirish Kunder's Jaaneman, a large part of which has been shot in New York. I simply cannot do pure shairi. In Meghna's second film, Honeymoon, a marital comedy about the middle class, I have come up with Kaise kaise Raam milaye jodi. The rule is simple: the lyrics must reflect the characters and the milieu.

Do you see yourself moving in a new direction, then?
One has to keep abreast of the times. This generation speaks a characteristic mixture of Hindi and English. Most of our films are shot in the US, the UK or the metropolitan areas of India. People do not use pure Urdu or Hindi in these places, do they? If I wrote what I used to in the 1950s or 1960s, that would be completely out of place. In a gangster film like Satya, I could not have penned Dil-e-nadaan tujhe hua kya hai.. It had to be Goli maar bheje mein, bheja shor karta hai... It was the lingo of the street but it wasn't devoid of meaning.


http://www.screenindia.com/fullstory.php?content_id=12480

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Posted: 19 years ago

Meghna films her father Gulzar

SUBHASH K JHA


It's a daughter's tribute to her father,'' says Meghna Gulzar, currently in Paris, about her eighteenminute film on her poet-filmmaker father. The untitled film has been screened in New York at a function to commemorate Gulzar. ''She has just completed the film. I loved it although there was one thing that puzzled me. How could my entire life be shown in just eighteen minutes? But jokes apart, Meghna has made a sensitive film revolving around my body of work — films and literature,'' says Gulzar.

''In fact, my untitled film on my father is part of a larger fulllength film that I plan to make on him shortly. So he doesn't need to feel that I've compressed his entire career in just eighteen minutes,'' adds Meghna.

Gulzar was in New York along with Jagjit Singh. ''We were part of the silver jubilee year celebrations of the Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan in the US,'' says Gulzar. ''Sanskrit scholar Dr Jai Raman is the director of the organisation and this was all his doing. On April 21, there was a concert by Jagjit where I introduced him. The following day there was a mushaira too where two Hindi and Urdu poets part i c i p at - ed.''

S i n g h a n d G u l z a r h ave been bestowed with the lifetime achievement awards by the Bhartiya Vidya Bhavan. ''I've completed 45 years while Jagjit 40,'' says Gulzar.


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