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Posted: 14 years ago
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i thought that sudha still love murli ,,,when she gave the gift to murli and ask iam very happy for you and bharti then why she goes outside the room and stand there and sad and weeping,,,,i think she 😉loves murli and about that bharti already douts at sudha... l
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think Bharti should have insisted that Sudha take Murli. Also, she should have told Murli that regardless what agreement he had w/ her dad, she does not love him, and loves someone else. I also felt really sad for Amit - he's given everything for Bharti - after all, he was under no moral obligation to believe Bharti over Prakash, which her own sasural didn't. So it was sad seeing him let down.

I do hope that in the end, Amarti and Surli are the couples we end up w/ - I don't like the Bharli jodi any more than I did previously.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Vrish_

I think Bharti should have insisted that Sudha take Murli. Also, she should have told Murli that regardless what agreement he had w/ her dad, she does not love him, and loves someone else. I also felt really sad for Amit - he's given everything for Bharti - after all, he was under no moral obligation to believe Bharti over Prakash, which her own sasural didn't. So it was sad seeing him let down.

I do hope that in the end, Amarti and Surli are the couples we end up w/ - I don't like the Bharli jodi any more than I did previously.



Hi,
i think that bharti did already a good job saying twice that sudha should make a pair with Murli (before prakash revelation and after murli proposal), i think that it's now sudha's turn to make a move. why did she keep denying? i think that it was hard for bharti because she does love murli but she went trough the trouble of trying to make him go for sudha even if murli started reacting in a bad way.
Bharti does not love amit and i think that there is only frienship between them for the moment.


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: bavdfan

i think that it's now sudha's turn to make a move. why did she keep denying?



but how can sudha make a move and say she is in love with murli when murli is a already married man and eager in accepting his wife again out of guilt and to fulfill the promise he gave to rupesh ,to add to that sudha herself is a married woman 😒 ... even if she says now it will only spoil her relationship with murli and other lals ... there is no option left for her other than denying 😒 ... i agree with vrish that if bharti had thought she could have united surli after all if her brain is working properly she must be understanding that murli is accepting her for many reasons other than love (not like other serials where female lead sacrifices her hero who loves her and forces him to marry other girl but unite with him at the end...here murli is clearly not in love with bharti ... so i think bharti must be happy at the happiness of her love rather than her own happiness ...(not necessary to unite surli without knowing anything from murli's side but she should have denied his proposal) )

Originally posted by: bavdfan

i think that bharti did already a good job saying twice that sudha should make a pair with Murli (before prakash revelation and after murli proposal),



actually bharti should have said sudha that she is toiling hard to clear the misunderstandings between her and murli & in case murli accepts her after all the revelations she may reunite with him ..that could have send a signal to sudha that she should not encourage her feelings for murli ... instead bharti said she would move on with her business but didnt stood by what she said 🤢 ...and followed a very lame approach of asking murli to marrry sudha 🤢

Originally posted by: bavdfan

Bharti does not love amit and i think that there is only frienship between them for the moment.



i also think there is nothing more than friendship betweem amarti
(sometimes it looks like bharti is following the common principle of all boys and gals 😆 ..if good-looking then flirt with them and have them as boyfriends or girlfriends if not a pure friendship will come there 😆😆😆😆)

(okey whatever i wrote is only my pov ..not arguing or proving u wrong 😆)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: --jas--


so i think bharti must be happy at the happiness of her love rather than her own happiness ...(not necessary to unite surli without knowing anything from murli's side but she should have denied his proposal) )

actually bharti should have said sudha that she is toiling hard to clear the misunderstandings between her and murli & in case murli accepts her after all the revelations she may reunite with him ..that could have send a signal to sudha that she should not encourage her feelings for murli ... instead bharti said she would move on with her business but didnt stood by what she said 🤢 ...and followed a very lame approach of asking murli to marrry sudha 🤢




first of all, thanks for answering, this is all about debate and understanding each other point of view so i won't get mad if someone says i don't get something and all ^^

so here is what i think : sudha loves murli, murli loves no one, bharti used to love murli but now she don't care. (this will help later)
in first place, sudha shouldn't love murli, i mean even before bharti entrance : she is married, gaushala have been talking about murli's wife in front of sudha so she must knew something was going on.
murli doesn't love any of her but he WANTS to marry bharti (whatever his reasons are) and Bharti accepted. not because of her own hapiness but because of murli will and her mother hapiness. she is definetly not putting herself first.
about the tentative of bharti for Surli weeding : that wasn't her business. i don't care if she succes or fail, it wasn't meant to be in the first place


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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't like Sudha. Never have. Still don't (and my opinion of Sudha does not reflect on Priya who plays Sudha because I know she has fans on this board and I don't want to offend anyone). I just don't like the way the writers have placed Sudha in the script.

1. She didn't have any problems falling in love - despite being an abused woman, she very easily started trusting another man. A man, who admittedly is married. She knew that. It does not matter who he was married to - the fact that he was married shows there is history there. She didn't even bother finding out whether that history is similar to her and Ram Avatar's. She didn't once stop to wonder if she was jumping out of a frying pan into boiling water! What if Murli was as abusive as Ram Avatar? He has the temper to be mentally abusive - what made her NOT think that he could be physically abusive too! And let me tell you, mental abuse is worse than physical abuse. But Sudha didn't consider it - all she saw was a handsome young man who was fighting for her, hence, he was her Krishna! (!!?)

2. She supposedly knows Bharti from her school days. When she found out Bharti and Murli were husband and wife, that alone should have made her back-off. She shouldn't have just let Bharti hand Murli over to her on a silver platter knowing full well that Bharti is still in love with Murli. But in her arrogant opinion, Sudha thought she will suit Murli better than Bharti (bah!)

3. She heard Murli made the announcement that he wanted to marry Bharti again. That alone, should have told her where she stood with him. But, she had the audacity to eaves drop on a private husband/wife conversation and butt in. Openly telling Murli she loves him and then tries to lace it with false purity about shrada and guru. Hog wosh! When Bharti told Murli that Sudha wanted to be in his life, that Sudha WAITED for minutes, waiting to see Murli's reaction before she spoke up! She is no friend of Bharti or Murli. She is a selfish woman. She waited to hear Murli's reaction. Only when he was OFFENDED that she reverted to plan B - which was, Bharti is deranged, she misunderstood my feelings for you. Really Sudha? Didn't have the guts to own up to her feelings (pyaar kiya toh darna kya right!) instead she tries to prove Bharti a lier.

4. Sudha is very selfish. She couldn't even see a husband feeding his grieving wife food. Jealousy ki bhi hadh hoti hai. And when Murli was feeding Bharti, Sudha did not know that Murli was going to re-marry Bharti but the fact that he was showing Bharti ( his WIFE) some COMPASSION (not love) - even that Sudha could not bear and had to tingle in jealousy! He was never her man to begin with.

5. Bharti and Sudha both assumed Murli would want to be with Sudha. Did anyone bother to ask the boy what he wanted from all this? Why would anyone assume that Sudha is the best choice for Murli when clearly, the irrational, pompous, arrogant, holder of volcanic anger Murli needs someone like Bharti who is sensible, rational, compassionate and kind enough to give up a husband she loves because she thinks he will never want to be with her.

If people see past the superficial norms, they will agree that a great pair is not that of who is more beautiful but rather who is more compatible. If good looks were THE ingredient in a successful marriage then Princess Diana and Prince Charles would never have gotten divorced.

Murli and Bharti should be together. Because despite Bharti's height and Murli's temper, they do indeed, complete each other. And I have been saying this long before Murli and writers said it in last week's episodes.

Bharti/Murli will always have my vote. The script supports their union.

Edited by cheznazi - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I come in peace and this is just my opinion 😃
@chenazi I don't think Sudha is as how you have put her out to be.
For Sudha to sort of fall in love with Murli and having hopes is somewhat natural. Someone in her position sees Murli as he saviour, who provided her shelter, security, comfort and courage. So if she did have any feelings and hope, I wouldn't hold it against her. When she did have feelings, she didn't know Murli was married and when she found out, he was going through divorce, so it doesn't make her a bad person if she wanted to be with Murli or selfish. If anything it makes her human.
To me, I think Sudha followed Murli and Bharti discussion because she knew Bharti was aware of her feelings. Since Murli's feelings were not known, it makes sense she gets a confirmation, which she did get from him. Sudha also knew Bharti will try to unite her and Murli, so she explained that she does have feelings but Murli n Bharti are the ones who shld be together as it was the right thing to do.
Sudha is a girl who has been in an abusive relationship for so long and doesn't or can't remember how it must be like to be loved, so I won't hold anything against her.
I will agree no one asked Murli what he wanted or who he wanted to be with but Murli has always acted the way he wanted if he thinks it's the right thing to do. He is quite a hot headed guy but his intentions have always been noble for most points.
I am not sure how I feel abt Bharli anymore, wld have to see how the plot plays out.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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just only one thing ..

Originally posted by: cheznazi

She didn't once stop to wonder if she was jumping out of a frying pan into boiling water!...all she saw was a handsome young man who was fighting for her, hence, he was her Krishna! (!!?)



isnt this applicable to bharti as well 🤔

& dear.. physical abuse is always worse than mental abuse (easy to theoritically say ,difficult while experiencing it 😒) ...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: --jas--




& dear.. physical abuse is always worse than mental abuse (easy to theoritically say ,difficult while experiencing it 😒) ...

I don't think anyone is in a position to say which is worse. Ask anyone who's suffered either and no doubt they'll tell you neither is a picnic!
A person being physically abused, experiences that. A person being mentally abused, experiences that. Neither has anyway of quantifying how bad the other has it.
Moreover, psychological abuse is often overlooked (expert opinions in the field, not mine), because there are no visible signs or marks, and can be more confusing and harder to understand. Emotional abuse is minimised by most people, even by the abused themselves, and yet it leaves very deep and lasting scars as much as physical and sometimes even more so (again expert opinion not mine).
And sometimes some people are subjected to both!
There is no varying degrees of abuse, by which we may place them in order of most damaging. It's ALL abuse and all wrong. No form of abuse should be treated less than any other.
Regarding Sudha, experts in the field say that it can take an abused woman years of therapy before she is able to trust anyone enough to form a friendship let alone a relationship! I don't have issues with Sudha, merely with the way the destructives have written her story. I would have liked to have seen a more realistic portrayal of how battered women deal with life after leaving their abuser. Incidentally it can take an abused woman 12-18 years before she eventually walks out of an abusive relationship permanently.
Sudha, appears to have healed from her past rather fast. A more accurate scenario would have been to show her still afraid, and very wary of people in general and men in particular. Abused women don't generally run from their abuser straight to another man AND latch onto him quite the way sudha has. Even if that person is the one who has helped them.
Reading this topic reminded me of why I stopped with these serials. Creative licence is dished out a little too liberally for my liking. If you're going to deal with social issues, sensitive issues, controversial issues, then do it properly or don't bother at all! What kind of message are they trying to give the millions of abused people out there???? There's no logic, no rhyme nor reason to the way Sudha has been portrayed and that is an insult to these women.
Remember Santu and her attempted rape Fuzzy? We're back there again.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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omg Rakhie it's you, so glad to see u on IF 🤗
ewe Santu's rape 🤢 was one of the most horrible thing especially the dialogues Yuck yuck yuck! 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Well Rakhie you know how these creatives fellows work, they want to highlight social issues but they can never pan it our properly. Sudha's case is just one of the things a lot of people go through but they shld have added more to and I hope they do coz the husband is still around. Take Bharti's case, the creatives are supposed to show how difficult life is from a drawf point of view but it has yet to materialise properly.
However I have seen some girls like Sudha who have come out and move on just as quickly but they do still have the fear constantly lurking around. I have also seen some men/women like Murli helping such girls providing shelter and care. What I noticed with most girls in such situation, they are afraid to talk to others but they're quite comfortable with the person, whom they regard as their saviour.
I dunno exactly how or when exactly abuse can affect people. Some ppl can withstand it for all their lives, other refuse to speak about while there are those who snap one day and lose their sanity. In our society most of us tend to keep it to ourselves, like the other day we had a case where this girl reported her rape after 18 years and her mother knew all along, so can you imagine??

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