What scene would you like to add to DH? Why?

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Hey guys, what kind of scene OR dialogue would you add to Deathly Hallows? (Or any other book for that matter?)
Not make any changes in the main storyline, BUT would like to have seen a few more times your favourite characters interact and how would you want them to interact....( I know a random topic LOL)

I personally would have LOVED if JKR would have included how Hermione destroyed the Hufflepuff Cup, what are her insecurities when the cup tortures her, how Ron and hermione got in the Chamber of Secrets, what happened there etc. LOL😆😉

What would you have liked to see in DH (that was not included obviuosly), between which characters and how would you have wanted it to happen????😛

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hmm...will have to think forst. Because most of the time when they add a new scene to the film, then make it even worse.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: redhotght

Hey guys, what kind of scene OR dialogue would you add to Deathly Hallows? (Or any other book for that matter?)
Not make any changes in the main storyline, BUT would like to have seen a few more times your favourite characters interact and how would you want them to interact....( I know a random topic LOL)

I personally would have LOVED if JKR would have included how Hermione destroyed the Hufflepuff Cup, what are her insecurities when the cup tortures her, how Ron and hermione got in the Chamber of Secrets, what happened there etc. LOL😆😉

What would you have liked to see in DH (that was not included obviuosly), between which characters and how would you have wanted it to happen????😛

Would you believe that when I read the subject of the topic, that was the scene that came to mind! I think that would have made a great addition to the book! I would also love to know how Ron bumbled his way through being a Maintainance Worker at teh Ministry! Imagine him looking into the raining room and trying to find a spell to stop it!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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And I also had this question...how did ROn speak in Parseltoungue there?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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From what i understood, i think he just produced a random sound resembling what he had heard Harry say.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Unfortunately, most of the changes I'd like to make in DH would alter the storyline because I love angst, character introspection and moral ambiguity. That change would start with some traitors in Gryffindor, spies in Hufflepuff, intelligent people in Ravenclaw that believe in Voldemort's cause, Slytherins who aren't 'evil', taking out of all RHr 'love moments' and ending without the epilogue.
A major change that doesn't alter the storyline would be more introspection for the 'good side' after using the Unforgivable curses. I was repulsed by how flippant Harry was when using the Unforgivable curses especially the Cruciatus one. It wasn't the use of Unforgivable curses that didn't sit right with me (although, I'm vehemently against the 'good' side using the Cruciatus curse because it causes pain for pain's sake); instead, it was how casual the alleged "good" side was being when they used the curses. Honestly, I get that it is war but then why the distinctions between the "good side" and the "bad side"? They're both equally morally questionable AND wrong because neither side takes the moment to feel guilt for taking another human being's life, neither side VALUES or TREASURES human life. I think that introspection was in order, especially from Harry. He crucio'ed Carrow for no good reason and it is Bellatrix's voice that rings in his head, stating that he "has to mean it [the curse]". Not Dumbledore, his alleged mentor, but Bellatrix, who worships LV. So, the reason why Harry Potter is deemed the "good" guy is beyond me.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

And I also had this question...how did ROn speak in Parseltoungue there?


yeah like someone said he just imitated what harry had said in second year so he cannot actually speak Parseltongue but still it's kinda confusing because then Wouldnt everyone start imitating it and actually claim they know it?? LOL😆 I know i would
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Posted: 16 years ago
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@ Anu: I'm afraid I need to diagree with you here. Not saying that Harry was some sort of saint, they do have faults and flaws in them, but sometimes circumstances forces people to do a lot of things that they may not have done otherwise. What is worse, to let a single innocent person (or maybe a death eater) live while putting the whole of human race at rist, or to kill one person and save the whole world? I know this sounds cruel, but that's how the world goes on. If using an unforgiable curse and causing pain to a single individual can help the lives of a millions, then be it. Saving one individual while risking other thousands of lives is worse, IMO.

Though I didn't like Harry using imperio (is the spelling correct?) and crucio at his enemies with such eas, but if he had not used them at the precious moment, then maybe Harry would have died, and almost the ehole of wizarding community would have died along with him. Isn't it better to cause pain to a single individual than causing pain to a millions? (Though, I dunno...if that individual happens to be my family what would I say...would I have the same perception then as well?)
As far as I can remember, the number of people Harry had caused pain were Death Eaters, who tried to take his life as well. Is killing or harming for self-defence a bad thing a crime/sin ? I do not think so. Infact Harry didn't even harm Stan, who was trying to harm/kill Harry (though under Imperius curse). He didn't even stun him, cause if he falls down he will immediately die. Despite Lupin's scoldings and all, Harry kept to his belief: He's not going to harm people just because they are in his way; that's Voldy's job.😉
Also, DD (dumbeldore) had committed the same thing when he was at Harry's age, too.
BTW can you please give me the page number (or atleast the chapter) where Harry uses the Crucio curse thinking of Bella? Will add my detailed reply after I read that.
Interesting reply, however.
Edited by PhoeniXof_Hades - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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^^I'm all for flawed characters; I don't mind them at all. I think flaws are what really make a character interesting. What I don't like is when characters don't have a sense of morality. That's what bugs me the most.
It doesn't bother me that Harry used the Unforgivables (I would've pulled my hair out had he used the disarming charm one more time), baring Crucio because it merely causes pain for the pleasure of the castor[-er?]. What bothers me more is that he uses them so casually and without feeling the slightest bit of remorse. I understand that it is war - I really do. But even the event being a "war" doesn't excuse the flippancy with which Harry using the Unforgivables was dealt. Yes, Amycus was horrible and bad but he is still a human being. It shouldn't be easy to torture another human being without feeling remorse. It shouldn't be easy to kill another human being without feeling the slightest remorse. Correct me if I'm wrong but the good side typically represents what is morally superior. What is morally superior in Harry when he doesn't consider the repercussions of his actions? To draw a parallel or rather contrast, Seeley Booth (from the show "Bones") was a sniper. Trained to kill, I suppose you could say. He faught in a war and yet, he felt remorse over taking the life of a General who led numerous genocides. He feels awful when he kills another human being. That's what makes him morally superior than the people he kills. Even though they both kill numerous people, He realizes that he hasn't just killed a "bad guy", but killed a husband, a brother, a father, a son for the 'greater good'. Not just that, he works with the FBI to "tip the cosmic balance" in his favour as he wants to put as many criminals in jail as the people whose life he took away, regardless of how well deserved it was; his humanity is what really gives him the edge in morality over the bad guys. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for Harry. The introspection was needed to really show how Harry (and the rest of the good guys) was any better than Bellatrix or the other bad guys.
I certainly don't believe that the Amycus experience falls into the self-defence category. Harry was under the Cloak and wasn't in line of direct harm from Carrow. Even if he does kill or torture (again, don't see how torture is supposed to be morally better), being the good guy, he should feel remorse for his actions. I don't think that he shouldn't have used the Unforgivables sans Crucio - rather, I think that he should have felt remorse over his actions. He is just so off-handed about it.
It's in the US edition on page 593. In the event that you have a different edition, here's how the part that I'm referring to follows:
[quote=DH]*tweaked to contextualize*
And he [Amycus] spat in her [McGonnagall's] face.
Harry pulled the Cloak off himself, raised his wand, and said "You shouldn't have done that."
The Death Eater was lifted off his feet. He writhed through the air like a drowning man, thrashing and howling in pain, and then with a cruch and a shattering of glass, he smashed into the front of a bookcase and crumpled, insensible, to the floor.
"I see what Bellatrix meant," said Harry, the blood thundering through his brain, "you need to really mean it."
(DH, 593)[/quote]
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Posted: 16 years ago
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i think i would like to see more of snape's memories and how he felt when lily married james

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