This could never happen to an Indian!!

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Posted: 17 years ago
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https://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-porterranch7-2008oct07,0,7721919.story
I never thought something of this magnitude could have an indian at the center . seems like we are getting there.....
Why do you think this happened?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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"This is a perfect American family behind me that has absolutely been destroyed, apparently because of a man who just got stuck in a rabbit hole, if you will, of absolute despair, somehow working his way into believing this to be an acceptable exit," said LAPD Deputy Chief Michel Moore. "It is critical to step up and recognize we are in some pretty troubled times."
That Qwerty is the answer to your question. That wasn't an Indian family!
What a sad state of affairs that drives a man to take the life of his family. Makes one wonder - what price human life!!!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

https://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-porterranch7-2008oct07,0,7721919.story

I never thought something of this magnitude could have an indian at the center . seems like we are getting there.....
Why do you think this happened?

Greed. Pure and simple greed for more money. The guy made a neat profit on selling his home and liquidating one investment company he started in U.K. My gut feeling is he ended up putting in all his earnings in stocks and lost it all. May be to recover the losses, he borrowed more money and invested it and lost it as well. It's clear he was cornered and then showed his cowardice by shooting not only himself but his whole entire family.
Sorry, I don't feel any sympathy for such people. I feel for the lost lives of his family members but I do not feel any remorse for him. He should have known when to quit (as in quit trading). After all, he went to couple of the best institutions for education. He should have known one can't beat the market all the time.
The incident actually throws light on the fact that Indians are not as conservative with their money as they are said to be or as they used to be. Unfortunately, the article also sheds light to the fact that Indians do know how to take risks but fail miserably when their bets go all wrong and the time comes to face the music.
We see escapism on indian forums too. People killing/abandoning their old IDs and coming up with the new ones when things get too much for them to take. They can't even carry on in VL as their chosen IDs and lack the guts to face the music for whatever imaginary issues they create in their minds. How different it is then when an Indian chooses to "escape" in RL as well?
Edited by Gauri_3 - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

https://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-porterranch7-2008oct07,0,7721919.story

I never thought something of this magnitude could have an indian at the center . seems like we are getting there.....
Why do you think this happened?

If I am not mistaken the point you are trying to make here is We Indians do have escapism but we dont kill the rest of our families along with ourselves. It is not that you are questioning why the guy committed this but you are showing surprise at the fact it was an Indian. So the response is based upon that question
It has always been there with "Indians" too just perhaps you have not read/seen it
Like it happened in the days of Harshad Mehta go absconding, ditch the people you owe and let them face the music or jump off a building leaving the family to deal with the debtors
or
Like it happened in the dot com bubble burst when people parked their BMW's at the SFO airport and caught the next flight back to homeland leaving the folks over here doing it right to fight the uphill reputation battle all over again
Perhaps you are surprised at the fact that the guy actually got his family to take the easy route along with himself rather than doing it the usual way of leaving himself and letting his family face the music on their own. I really am not sure which one is worser, you seem to be saying one is better than the other
Regards the question, why it happened?
One fine day you lost everything that you and your family have been used to the life and now you have to start from scratch with a bruised ego. It sounds romantic in Hindi films or TV serials it is very hard to contemplate in real life and much much harder to actually live it, you rather would not put your family through all this. IMO it happens when the only real life personal crisis you have encountered in life is cramming for the educational exams
Edited by chal_phek_mat - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Whenever we think "It could not happen to us" it is our greatest mistake. When it comes to life, everyone is hit equally indiscriminately. There maybe many things going in favor of Indians, but no human will ever be completely free from depression, desperation and the dark pitfalls of human nature.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Whenever we think "It could not happen to us" it is our greatest mistake. When it comes to life, everyone is hit equally indiscriminately. There maybe many things going in favor of Indians, but no human will ever be completely free from depression, desperation and the dark pitfalls of human nature.

Yes RTH.. I agree there.. but I am talking about the reaction we are accustomed to give under such circumstances... we do commit such things as knee jerk but extensive pre-meditation is veri rare... except for the criminal minds
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: SholaJoBhadkey

"This is a perfect American family behind me that has absolutely been destroyed, apparently because of a man who just got stuck in a rabbit hole, if you will, of absolute despair, somehow working his way into believing this to be an acceptable exit," said LAPD Deputy Chief Michel Moore. "It is critical to step up and recognize we are in some pretty troubled times."

That Qwerty is the answer to your question. That wasn't an Indian family!
What a sad state of affairs that drives a man to take the life of his family. Makes one wonder - what price human life!!!

Actually shola, i wasnt asking about the passport evidence here.. 😊... it was indeed sad.. but this is one of those rare instances of this thing happening to and for an indian....
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Sad story.......poor poor children.....
Pride is at the heart of it - and that is totally sheeiite.
So actually I'm not surprised an Indian is at the centre of it.
Jaan jai...magar garoor/so called "izzat"/paisa/ na jai.....
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: chal_phek_mat

If I am not mistaken the point you are trying to make here is We Indians do have escapism but we dont kill the rest of our families along with ourselves. It is not that you are questioning why the guy committed this but you are showing surprise at the fact it was an Indian. So the response is based upon that question
It has always been there with "Indians" too just perhaps you have not read/seen it
Like it happened in the days of Harshad Mehta go absconding, ditch the people you owe and let them face the music or jump off a building leaving the family to deal with the debtors
or
Like it happened in the dot com bubble burst when people parked their BMW's at the SFO airport and caught the next flight back to homeland leaving the folks over here doing it right to fight the uphill reputation battle all over again
CPM you are right. as far as my question but the above two examples dont really compare with what happened here.. if it was escapism,, two of the things could have happened - he could have killed himself or killed the guy who fired him.... see the reaction is directed in the right direction but he chose to live through this premeditation for 20*24*60*60 seconds of life.. and what happened in that part of his life really interest me...unless you call him a criminal mind who can just sleep with a gun in his pocket... i think he was disturbed and kiiling so many wasnt on his sane agenda.
Perhaps you are surprised at the fact that the guy actually got his family to take the easy route along with himself rather than doing it the usual way of leaving himself and letting his family face the music on their own. I really am not sure which one is worser, you seem to be saying one is better than the other this is not like the family decided to take this route at the dinner table... the extent of premeditation appals me.. the other thing that shocks me that he ensured everyone was shot in the head......there is some wierd under-current there - we as indians do so many reactive things.. the ones you mentioned about abandoning cars...yes and we had farmers commiting suicide in poverty etc.... but this has a different direction altogether.. of course this has the greed factor Gauri mentined above - pushing your luck too far perhaps....
Regards the question, why it happened?
One fine day you lost everything that you and your family have been used to the life and now you have to start from scratch with a bruised ego. It sounds romantic in Hindi films or TV serials it is very hard to contemplate in real life and much much harder to actually live it, you rather would not put your family through all this. IMO it happens when the only real life personal crisis you have encountered in life is cramming for the educational exams IF this had happned in matter of days I wouldnt be suprised.. but this happened over a period of 20 or so days.. which makes me ask this question..... Yeah... we have wierdos.. but this one is way off the leaque

Edited by qwertyesque - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque

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....... of course this has the greed factor Gauri mentined above - pushing your luck too far perhaps....

Does that mean you agree with my post😃😆

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