So verdicts are not given on domestic net anymore!?

I guess that is a well established fact now.

Recent is cocktail 2 being declared a success at 150cr budget though let alone 150 even 100cr domestic net seems very tough

Any trade experts should shed some light?

I'm not an expert, but after Covid, I noticed that more & more the worldwide gross collection got taken as a yardstick for success (and the verdicts of 'hit')... imo, it's just 'window-dressing'.

Originally posted by: Clochette

I'm not an expert, but after Covid, I noticed that more & more the worldwide gross collection got taken as a yardstick for success (and the verdicts of 'hit')... imo, it's just 'window-dressing'.

you are right

it started with sooryavansh then gangubai then bramastra..i mean these were all declared clean hits based on WW gross and tbh thats also the way HW functions..it makes sense..i feel 90% movies will flop if we still keep the domestic net yardstick

A film can easily fail to recover its budget through domestic ticket sales alone and still be officially declared a Hit. When box office trade analysts (like Taran Adarsh or Box Office India) declare a movie a "Hit," they aren't looking at the producer's total budget. They are looking at the Distributor’s Share.

Producers rarely release movies themselves. Instead, they sell the theatrical distribution rights to different territories (or a pan-India distributor) before release.

A movie is a "Hit" if the Distributor's Share of the domestic box office exceeds the price the distributor paid to buy the theatrical rights.

If a movie costs ₹100 crore to make, the producer might sell the domestic theatrical rights for just ₹50 crore because they expect to make the rest elsewhere. If the distributor’s share from theaters hits ₹55 crore, the movie is a theatrical Hit, even though the domestic box office only covered half of the production budget.

Originally posted by: cougarTown

you are right

it started with sooryavansh then gangubai then bramastra..i mean these were all declared clean hits based on WW gross and tbh thats also the way HW functions..it makes sense..i feel 90% movies will flop if we still keep the domestic net yardstick

Hollywood usually gives a movie the hit verdict when it earns 3X its budget worldwide. But Bollywood declares it a hit when it makes the same amount as the budget, WW.

movie gets a good opening with decent reviews it outright declared a hit regarding of its huge budget

anyways its all corrupt now...no one cares anymore.

why so much emphasis on box-office collections, we should want good movies to succeed. Cocktail 2 is so much more enjoyable than the super successful Dhurandhar 1 and 2. It's a perfect summer movie, with good music, good locations and a satisfying ending....

Originally posted by: nonam

why so much emphasis on box-office collections, we should want good movies to succeed. Cocktail 2 is so much more enjoyable than the super successful Dhurandhar 1 and 2. It's a perfect summer movie, with good music, good locations and a satisfying ending....

even dhurandhar had to manipulate its opening day numbers

i loved dhurandhar 1 but baring ranveer singhs brilliant performance found D2 torturous at times

Isn't the most important thing (and success for a movie) if people want to go to the theatres to watch the/a movie... why even fudging numbers???

Just a small example about a Marathi movie that - until now - became the biggest success of Marathi Cinema. In May this year the sequel of Pravin Tarde's 2015 movie Deool Band released (Deool Band 2)... made on a budget of max. 10 cr it grossed more than 80 cr and had mostly very high occupancy. SRK's RedChillies did the digital work and color grading but that got more expensive than thought and at that time, Pravin couldn't pay the bill, so the release was in jeopardy. However SRK said that they should not bother about the bill but release the movie and one would see later... So, now, Pravin can pay the bill and has - in addition - a very successful movie in his bag