Legal or ethical - Who is mother of the child? - Page 2

Originally posted by: JKSR

I usually refrain from commenting, but this is a sensitive topic. Based on your logic, fathers would have no rights and be reduced to mere sperm donors, correct? In this case, Ruhi was neither forced nor threatened into surrogacy—she voluntarily approached Arman and Abhira, fully aware of her decision and its implications. Legally and ethically, Abhira is the mother, and Ruhi does not automatically gain parental rights simply because an unfortunate event occurred in her life. She had the option to terminate the pregnancy if she felt it was necessary for her current circumstances, prioritizing her own child, Dkash. Since no one compelled her, it remains her choice. Neither she nor anyone else can claim that the child is hers—no way.

It’s truly heartbreaking that some people in the world require external assistance to have children. While adoption is always an option, it's well known that many parents or relatives prefer biological connections, making adoption a less favored choice for them.

Therefore, we cannot diminish the biological mother’s rights by labeling her as just an egg donor, nor can we elevate the surrogate’s role to that of the mother simply because she endured physical and emotional strain. That’s not how it works. Each party enters this process with full understanding, and as responsible adults, we must acknowledge the consequences and act accordingly. True character is defined by consistency—if you stand by your decisions in favorable circumstances, you must also uphold them in difficult times. You can't keep changing your stance to suit the situation.

The egg donor should be thoughtfull enough and go through all the hard ships of pregnancy and delivery. Atleast at the end of the day she will have rights on he baby and body during the process. A woman who wants her own bloodline should subject her own self to the torture and not any other women.

No matter how much desperate, no one's got the right to inflict suffering on other people for own selfish reasons.

Ajeeb rakshasi pravati hai , "bachcha chahiye kaise bhi chahiye". Getting a baby via torturing some other woman.

Originally posted by: JKSR

I usually refrain from commenting, but this is a sensitive topic. Based on your logic, fathers would have no rights and be reduced to mere sperm donors, correct? In this case, Ruhi was neither forced nor threatened into surrogacy—she voluntarily approached Arman and Abhira, fully aware of her decision and its implications. Legally and ethically, Abhira is the mother, and Ruhi does not automatically gain parental rights simply because an unfortunate event occurred in her life. She had the option to terminate the pregnancy if she felt it was necessary for her current circumstances, prioritizing her own child, Dkash. Since no one compelled her, it remains her choice. Neither she nor anyone else can claim that the child is hers—no way.

It’s truly heartbreaking that some people in the world require external assistance to have children. While adoption is always an option, it's well known that many parents or relatives prefer biological connections, making adoption a less favored choice for them.

Therefore, we cannot diminish the biological mother’s rights by labeling her as just an egg donor, nor can we elevate the surrogate’s role to that of the mother simply because she endured physical and emotional strain. That’s not how it works. Each party enters this process with full understanding, and as responsible adults, we must acknowledge the consequences and act accordingly. True character is defined by consistency—if you stand by your decisions in favorable circumstances, you must also uphold them in difficult times. You can't keep changing your stance to suit the situation.

Same thinking. Surrogacy is not bad if taken care of. I am a 60 year woman , I also feel it's extremely unfair for a woman to give birth to children because why the entire pain should be taken by women. Why should men who have no contribution in giving birth gets equal rights to be a parent , I have always wondered this. then shouldn't all father's be sperm donors since Abhira is just an egg donor.

Originally posted by: ThukkadRajaShah

'Legally' can be other matter but ethically the baby belong to ruhi and only ruhi, Get it. Its ruhi's baby whom she will be nurturing for months and risking her life for. Who the hell is abheera , a freaking egg donor , she doesn’t have any right on the baby ethically.

But it doesn't.

This is the discussion, Ruhi has signed the contract where she has said that she will hand over the baby, she will care for the baby and she is doing it because she wants her sister to have the baby

The baby belongs to Abhira and Armaan - handing over the child after birth to its parents is what Ruhi should do

But what should Abhira and Armaan do now?

Originally posted by: Abhirasharma

Same thinking. Surrogacy is not bad if taken care of. I am a 60 year woman , I also feel it's extremely unfair for a woman to give birth to children because why the entire pain should be taken by women. Why should men who have no contribution in giving birth gets equal rights to be a parent , I have always wondered this. then shouldn't all father's be sperm donors since Abhira is just an egg donor.

Fathers are called sperm donors that's age old practice of rishta viewers, they think because father didn't keep the baby in womb for 9 months he doesn't have any rights on the child

But there are legal rights of both parents

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

Fathers are called sperm donors that's age old practice of rishta viewers, they think because father didn't keep the baby in womb for 9 months he doesn't have any rights on the child

But there are legal rights of both parents

Legal rights yes but I have often wondered isn't it unfair biologically for one parent to go through so much of pain

Originally posted by: Abhirasharma

Legal rights yes but I have often wondered isn't it unfair biologically for one parent to go through so much of pain

It is

Not only pregnancy but menstrual cycles as well 😢😢 bhai, every month, there is weeks of pain, hormonal changes which leads to mood swings and stress, we have simply too many hormones messing up our system

Why women have to tolerate all of this?

Legally and ethically Abhira is the mother of the child. Period. Roohi agreed to Surrogacy on her own will and was not forced into it. Contract was signed. In other countries a lawyer is involved as well and there are lot of legal formalities surrogate needs to go through so she can never claim the child.

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

It is

Not only pregnancy but menstrual cycles as well 😢😢 bhai, every month, there is weeks of pain, hormonal changes which leads to mood swings and stress, we have simply too many hormones messing up our system

Why women have to tolerate all of this?

Yes. It's so unfair. I don't have periods anymore thank god

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

But it doesn't.

This is the discussion, Ruhi has signed the contract where she has said that she will hand over the baby, she will care for the baby and she is doing it because she wants her sister to have the baby

The baby belongs to Abhira and Armaan - handing over the child after birth to its parents is what Ruhi should do

But what should Abhira and Armaan do now?

Bold: That is basically surrogacy in a nutshell and I am strongly against surrogacy. It’s ridiculous and shows sickness of the human mind to go any extent for own selfish reasons.

As for abheera armaan , they are just negative characters in the name of leads. Kya hi comment karein.

Originally posted by: LoveMatters

Legally and ethically Abhira is the mother of the child. Period. Roohi agreed to Surrogacy on her own will and was not forced into it. Contract was signed. In other countries a lawyer is involved as well and there are lot of legal formalities surrogate needs to go through so she can never claim the child.

It's so disgusting when people defend and justify evil practices and call them 'ethical'. The audacity...