Jhanak Written Update And Episode Discussion thread No 💯 - Page 139

Originally posted by: Alter_Eg0

Haha, indeed... but here she's unleashing her creative prowess to transform Guddi's negative PL into an "oppressed" FL, so a simple lift & shift just won't cut it right?

Leena apne hi banaaye chakravyuh mein phass rahi hai. Delicious 👏😂

Originally posted by: PoojaaNair

J and Ani did the deed knowing that they did it Consent was there.... Ani n J consented to the intimacy...in rc case she violated a man ... she knew he was telling he loves J but still slept with him .... lot of difference...btw J and Ani did it when they consented.... Consent is a huge thing.... Ani N rc didn't Consent. At all .... She brutally violated him

Btw have a Jhanak in ur life and Not Rc

I've never said what Arshi is right. She was brutally wrong. At least I've the guts to say unlike you who's still on the rant that what J did was right.

And it's ironical that despite being a law student you don't know that the concept of consent isn't as simple as it seems. When a person isn't in his or her senses (due to any reason), is intoxicated or asleep even his consent isn't considered into picture. If you still think by not disclosing the truth J did right then I respect your view..

What Arshi did is wrong and what J did is equally wrong but I know being a runak fan you can't see it.. and I don't want to waste my time in arguing.. let's agree to disagree.

Any new promo is out for this show ?

Originally posted by: sanfan

If someone has fever, it is ti be presumed that the person is incapable of giving consent? The law is clear about intoxication not fever induced delirium iAnyways your point itself is moot cos In this situation.. please note they were married and as the law stands today whatever you are hinting above won’t even stand the test be it for man or woman. So trying to draw comparisons to the two situations is absolutely pointless even in this fictional tale. The two situations were completely different and it’s only bias that will cause one to equate it

Ani had fever and was under heavy medication which means the law for not being in his senses would apply. If u think everything was completely 💯 and consensual then please answer my two questions

1. Why did jhanak hide their intimacy from Ani. She toh saw sacha shiddat pyaar and considered herself married right? So why did she not reveal it to her "husband" that they had s*x

2. Why did ani clearly state he would never done something had he been in his senses? That's a very bold statement to make imo. Only because he wasn't in his senses the deed happened so how right is it?. Aren't they husband and wife?

Originally posted by: Magical_moon

We've very different povs on runak marriage so let's not go there.

Ani had fever and was under heavy medication which means the law for not being in his senses would apply. If u think everything was completely 💯 and consensual then please answer my two questions

1. Why did jhanak hide their intimacy from Ani. She toh saw sacha shiddat pyaar and considered herself married right? So why did she not reveal it to her "husband" that they had s*x

2. Why did ani clearly state he would never done something had he been in his senses? That's a very bold statement to make imo. Only because he wasn't in his senses the deed happened so how right is it?. Aren't they husband and wife?

1. Because she thought Ani was aware of that and there was a misunderstanding, partly due to Leenaji's stupendous style of creating artificially forged misunderstandings through a lack of clear and productive communication.

Jhanak felt surprised, happy, and loved, resulting in the union of two broken hearts that day 💖

2. Ani always said one thing while his actions did the opposite. It was clearly observable how he became physically close to her that night despite her resistance and he clearly remembered the next day: "mera tumahrey qareeb ana aur galaey lagana" which it self was significantly bold so Ani definitely got physically close to her, in his half-senses if not fully conscious.

Again, logical and thorough justifications of this inconsistent as well as mindless show will only lead to unnecessary arguments here.

Originally posted by: samarp2

Yaa what happened to KB & his plans that part story got stuck & abrupt thing they showed here with Jhimli drama🙄 & brand new Shrishti 🤦‍♀️

Ashu do you remember ......one padosi aunty and padosi bhaiyya came to BH to complain against Jhanak after seeing runak fight on road. Are nt jimli mil and that woman is same.

Originally posted by: Magical_moon

We've very different povs on runak marriage so let's not go there.

Ani had fever and was under heavy medication which means the law for not being in his senses would apply. If u think everything was completely 💯 and consensual then please answer my two questions

1. Why did jhanak hide their intimacy from Ani. She toh saw sacha shiddat pyaar and considered herself married right? So why did she not reveal it to her "husband" that they had s*x

2. Why did ani clearly state he would never done something had he been in his senses? That's a very bold statement to make imo. Only because he wasn't in his senses the deed happened so how right is it?. Aren't they husband and wife?

Heavy medication - what medicine did she give him apart from a paracetamol for the fever that was sold across the counter without prescription so please let’s not have wordplay on law for a fictional tale.. there is nothing in the narrative to suggest that J was initiating any intimacy and there is nothing either to suggest that there was any coercion in the act initiated by Ani.

To answer your question no 1….

The morning after is a different day in any case for anyone who has entered into s*xual relationship… there are no laws governing the conduct and one is free to respond to the situation according to one’s sensibility. How much or how less one is articulate about the night of intimacy would entirely depend on the state of the relationship, despite consensual sex… that includes even casual s*x where the relationship may not even be defined so I don’t think there is any obligation arising from an act of intimacy to discuss it. Now coming to the actual tale, not sure if you watched it or interpreted it the way I did and obviously you are free to interpret it the way you wish. My interpretation was that Jhanak, never intended to make a play for the relationship unless Ani would have initiated it and been very steadfast about it.( hypothetically how she would have behaved or responded if Ani had acted like a husband the day after is open for interpretation)When she read ( what she saw) reticence or casualness in his actions, she just hardened her resolve to not take the matter further. A common enough approach for a woman in love but proud about it too…

On Q2

Now staying purely with the tale in question….. if the writer wished to portray an act done without consciousness, the urge to accept a deed of this nature would have to involve …acceptance that such a deed could have happened because a trustworthy person is saying it. In the tale, the writer wished to portray a breakdown in trust between the two post the Mumbai situation. Ani’s extreme jealousy unresolved at that moment as also his conflicted state of mind in respect of their relationship was projected on to the narrative. Jhanak had come to him probably expecting him to own up but when he refused to entertain the possibility, she dug in for an acceptance for the child and her belligerent posturing threw him off-,At one level her accusing him of something that he had no recollection of and that she was only asking him to accept paternity and nothing more.

Personally, I had questions on the way this part of the tale was done by Leena. Ani’s vehemence in denying the possibility that such an act may have happened did not wash well at all… because it hadn’t been built in the narrative to hold up well given Ani had acknowledged some level of intimacy between them on the night before the act, based on which he got her home and the whole shenanigans of making her jealous and the dare of the Shaadi. I suppose Leena wanted then to create a situation of actual acceptance from an event not involving the baby ( it was the tumour and her call to inform him that opened the floodgates) meaning that his acceptance was beyond the life they may have created.

You mentioned at the start of this post that we have different pov of the marriage… I don’t know your pov but I am sure you cannot know mine too.

I am not justifying the night of intimacy on the basis of marriage.. I am stating that the law is on their side on this one.

Originally posted by: Magical_moon

Woww that's your defending statement 👏🏻.. unbelievable. Two wrongs don't make a right... So no matter what J and Ani do, no matter how much blunders they commit we will simply compare it with Arshi and say ise toh kam hi hai . If that's your way of arguing then let's end this discussion.

I've never said what Arshi is right. She was brutally wrong. At least I've the guts to say unlike you who's still on the rant that what J did was right.

And it's ironical that despite being a law student you don't know that the concept of consent isn't as simple as it seems. When a person isn't in his or her senses (due to any reason), is intoxicated or asleep even his consent isn't considered into picture. If you still think by not disclosing the truth J did right then I respect your view..

What Arshi did is wrong and what J did is equally wrong but I know being a runak fan you can't see it.. and I don't want to waste my time in arguing.. let's agree to disagree.

Actually being a law student makes Pooja say this.. that the law is on J or Ani’s side on the act even if we leave every other discussion by the wayside..

Originally posted by: sanfan

Actually being a law student makes Pooja say this.. that the law is on J or Ani’s side on the act even if we leave every other discussion by the wayside..

Rekha ji, yahaan gaslighting ki gandi boo aa rahi hai ….as if PL ki onscreen gaslighting wasn’t enough, kuch PL defenders ki gaslighting bhi khatam nahin hoti. After all apni idol Arshi se hi inspired hain completely clueless about consent and going around preaching to others to bully them into equating Jhanak with Arshi

Originally posted by: sanfan

Heavy medication - what medicine did she give him apart from a paracetamol for the fever that was sold across the counter without prescription so please let’s not have wordplay on law for a fictional tale.. there is nothing in the narrative to suggest that J was initiating any intimacy and there is nothing either to suggest that there was any coercion in the act initiated by Ani.

To answer your question no 1….

The morning after is a different day in any case for anyone who has entered into s*xual relationship… there are no laws governing the conduct and one is free to respond to the situation according to one’s sensibility. How much or how less one is articulate about the night of intimacy would entirely depend on the state of the relationship, despite consensual sex… that includes even casual s*x where the relationship may not even be defined so I don’t think there is any obligation arising from an act of intimacy to discuss it. Now coming to the actual tale, not sure if you watched it or interpreted it the way I did and obviously you are free to interpret it the way you wish. My interpretation was that Jhanak, never intended to make a play for the relationship unless Ani would have initiated it and been very steadfast about it.( hypothetically how she would have behaved or responded if Ani had acted like a husband the day after is open for interpretation)When she read ( what she saw) reticence or casualness in his actions, she just hardened her resolve to not take the matter further. A common enough approach for a woman in love but proud about it too…

On Q2

Now staying purely with the tale in question….. if the writer wished to portray an act done without consciousness, the urge to accept a deed of this nature would have to involve …acceptance that such a deed could have happened because a trustworthy person is saying it. In the tale, the writer wished to portray a breakdown in trust between the two post the Mumbai situation. Ani’s extreme jealousy unresolved at that moment as also his conflicted state of mind in respect of their relationship was projected on to the narrative. Jhanak had come to him probably expecting him to own up but when he refused to entertain the possibility, she dug in for an acceptance for the child and her belligerent posturing threw him off-,At one level her accusing him of something that he had no recollection of and that she was only asking him to accept paternity and nothing more.

Personally, I had questions on the way this part of the tale was done by Leena. Ani’s vehemence in denying the possibility that such an act may have happened did not wash well at all… because it hadn’t been built in the narrative to hold up well given Ani had acknowledged some level of intimacy between them on the night before the act, based on which he got her home and the whole shenanigans of making her jealous and the dare of the Shaadi. I suppose Leena wanted then to create a situation of actual acceptance from an event not involving the baby ( it was the tumour and her call to inform him that opened the floodgates) meaning that his acceptance was beyond the life they may have created.

You mentioned at the start of this post that we have different pov of the marriage… I don’t know your pov but I am sure you cannot know mine too.

I am not justifying the night of intimacy on the basis of marriage.. I am stating that the law is on their side on this one.

Very well compiled Rekha.