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Posted: 1 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Pinecone

Theres absolutely no comparison between Rubi vs Abhira

Ruhi knowingly married her lovers brother to stay near him. What crap is that?! She's beginning a new relationship on such horrible terms. She didn't disclose anything about having a past to Rohit either. Even if she didn't tell him it was Armaan, he should have been informed that she had a past atleast.

Abhira married Armaan because it was her moms dying wish. She knew about him having a past but Armaan has several times told her its over with his ex. He never brings up his ex in front of Abhira, rather makes it seem like he wants nothing to do with the past. Abhira therefore will only see it as a past relationship and if now he's giving his time, effort, commitment to her- she will start to have dreams of this materializing into something.

Abhira has no idea about his past or Ruhis. But she's only seeing it as a situation where her husband had a past but its over.. plain and simple. And if Armaan rejects her- she will leave ( unlike whatRuhi is doing). Thats how she's written.

She's a young girl who lost everything in one day. Married a guy with no idea what to expect and impulsively said- ok lets make it a deal because this was sprung on us suddenly and I don't want to be a bojh. Armaan said-ok but lets not talk of this shaadi as deal in front of family and discuss what to do later once you are actually independent. So shaadi isnt fake.

Abhira is getting attached to her lawfully wedded husband. Everytime their MUs increase, she concretely distances herself or tries to leave. But Armaan brings her back , manaos her, makes her move back into room and gives her signals when he says things like "meri patni hai" etc etc. she even asked him why she took him to his special place where he only takes family but he said she's important to him. So Abhira has tried to keep things in check but Armaan has given her signals that they can be real spouses. Thats why now she has natural progression to feeling upset at Ruhi Armaan proximity. She does not know their past

I thought this thread was only about Ruhi and did not discuss Abhira. Since the comparison has come up, guess I can share my two cents worth. Agree with what you say, there is no comparison between two people who are as different as day and night. Abhira is a simple, straight forward and outspoken girl. With her, what you see is what you get. She is not devious and is not driven by self-interest. Despite not waxing eloquent about what family ties mean, which is what got Armaan attracted to Ruhi in the first place, Abhira has truly created a space for herself within the Poddar family. She has established relations with every single person in that household. She has questioned and opposed the family or specifically Kaveri’s way of doing things but she has done so openly.No going behind the back and doing anything. Even with regard to the case, she came out in the open and told them herself. The only fraud, if you want to call it that, she is perpetrating is the illusion of lifelong commitment when she proposed a one year deal herself. We saw how much the lie is wieighing on her conscience during the Holi episode. She is not manipulative in the least and wants to be truthful and honest in her interactions with all. Which is why she is in for the heartbreak of a lifetime when she learns the truth about Armaan and Ruhi’s past. She does not deserve this and I strongly feel for her on this.

In contrast, Ruhi is someone who is motivated largely by self-interest. She won’t hesitate to throw anyone under the bus if it is in her interests. The fact that she never even thought for a moment about Rohit when she decided to go ahead with the marriage just so she could be under the same roof as Armaan is symptomatic of a troubled mind. No matter what Armaan said or did not say, Ruhi is an adult who should know right from wrong. The fact that she chose to distrust this man, who was the love of her life according to her, and jump into a marriage with a random person whom she knew nothing about shows how imbalanced she is. How do you determine that a man is the love of your life and then, based on a couple of phone calls, determine that he is a two-timer? This itself shows you have no real understanding of the man or the emotion that you claim to feel for him. You found a man who thought you were perfect and appeared besotted by you and bam, you decided he is your soulmate. And two days later, you judge him to be a cheat and decide to marry another man. Then, when you learn the truth, you want your soul mate to go and confess to his family about your love and he turns you down without a second thought. He wants you to keep up your commitment because he thinks you will be happy with his brother. While he had no business asking that, you go one step further and decide to marry his brother so you can live in the same house as your ex. How twisted is that? And like some great romantic hero, your ex tells you that he will love you for ever. Just two days ago, you thought he was a fraud and now you think he is going to live up to this promise. I mean really ? Nobody who is in complete possession of their faculties and is of sane mind, would make the kind of ridiculous decisions that Ruhi did in the space of a few days. Believe me, I am not exonerating Armaan. The minute he knew that Ruhi had agreed to marry his brother on the rebound, he should have taken Rohit aside and told him the whole sorry story and the sordid mess that it had all become. Instead he thought he was making some great sacrifice. He had no business asking what he did of Ruhi. I blame him for messing with Rohit’s life but, the only defence he has is that his actions were not motivated by self-interest but by some twisted notion of family and sacrifice. But, at the end of the day, Ruhi had the choice to walk away from it all and she didn’t. So sorry, I won’t blame Armaan for the mess that Ruhi’s life is but rather, I would blame her alone. The reasons can be several including childhood trauma but you cannot expect Armaan to take responsibility for her choices. How does it matter to Ruhi if Armaan remains a bachelor or marries someone else, once she herself is married? Armaan clearly has the habit of blurting out things when pushed to a corner. His telling Ruhi about Abhira and his marriage was one of those moments. He had to pacify Ruhi and make her believe that he was not the lowlife she thought him to be and so he told her the truth. Armaan is as burdened by complexes as Ruhi is and their marriage would have been the perfect recipe for disaster. Anyway this is not about Armaan and so let us leave him aside.

Going back to Abhira and Ruhi, you either overcome the circumstances you are presented with or you succumb to them. Abhira is a survivor and Ruhi is struggling. Sadly instead of fighting back, she is seeking refuge in delusions and illusions. At the end of the day, we alone are responsible for what we make of our lives. Nobody owes us anything. By not taking professional help and not dealing with her baggage, Ruhi is drowning in the vortex of her childhood abandonment issues and that is dictating the course of her life and decisions. It is tragic and she really needs help. If she doesn’t get the right help, she will destroy her own life and that of those around her as well!

P.S - Ruhi has displayed sly behaviour and, in all honesty, her feelings for Armaan are not quite platonic. That mating ritual dance, throwing herself on him in that hut, cuddling up to him and caressing his hand while he is sleeping, none of these are signs of platonic love. We may interpret her dialogue on beech ka raasta in multiple ways but her own behaviour has left it wide open to interpretation!

Edited by sharadrocks - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago
#52

I agree.

But thats why I have no sympathy for Armaan or Ruhi. Both are responsible for the mess in their life.

They need to rise above their self victimization and be honest about what they want in life.

Their dosti dosti game is ridiculous.

And thats why all my sympathy lies only with Abhira.

She's lovable.

I dont hate Ruhi or Armaan. But I'd like them to see them own up to their flaws, and grow. They screwed up but life is presenting them opportunities to move on and be happy but these 2 keep rejecting it and getting trapped in past. And if they really do love each other they can still be together and tell Abhira the truth. She'll leave and infact maybe even help them be together if they push the right buttons. But i get frustrated when Abhira is compared with either of them or excuses are made for Armaan or Ruhis irrational behavior. This whole past trauma etc and all is not a good enough excuse for their mistakes.

Abhira hasn't had an easy life either. Her mom may have protected her and raised her well but she's definitely missed out on a family. She's craved it. She had no friends or siblings. Her whole world was one person and so losing her mom is extremely traumatic too. But she has healthy coping skills. Neither Armaan nor Ruhi do.

Especially not Ruhi. Because she's seen that Armaan is not gonna pick her and only leads her on, yet she's there with zero self respect still having romantic feelings and projecting her anger on the wrong person - Abhira who doesn't know their past.

Abhira is an easy target for both Armaan and Ruhi, infact the whole family. And thats upsetting.

Posted: 1 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Pinecone

I agree.

But thats why I have no sympathy for Armaan or Ruhi. Both are responsible for the mess in their life.

They need to rise above their self victimization and be honest about what they want in life.

Their dosti dosti game is ridiculous.

And thats why all my sympathy lies only with Abhira.

She's lovable.

I dont hate Ruhi or Armaan. But I'd like them to see them own up to their flaws, and grow. They screwed up but life is presenting them opportunities to move on and be happy but these 2 keep rejecting it and getting trapped in past. And if they really do love each other they can still be together and tell Abhira the truth. She'll leave and infact maybe even help them be together if they push the right buttons. But i get frustrated when Abhira is compared with either of them or excuses are made for Armaan or Ruhis irrational behavior. This whole past trauma etc and all is not a good enough excuse for their mistakes.

Abhira hasn't had an easy life either. Her mom may have protected her and raised her well but she's definitely missed out on a family. She's craved it. She had no friends or siblings. Her whole world was one person and so losing her mom is extremely traumatic too. But she has healthy coping skills. Neither Armaan nor Ruhi do.

Especially not Ruhi. Because she's seen that Armaan is not gonna pick her and only leads her on, yet she's there with zero self respect still having romantic feelings and projecting her anger on the wrong person - Abhira who doesn't know their past.

Abhira is an easy target for both Armaan and Ruhi, infact the whole family. And thats upsetting.

completely agree …while you can empathize with the characters for their past trauma etc, there is only so much of slack you can cut. Owning up to their mistakes is the first step to growing as human beings. My sympathies are entirely with Abhira here because the girl deserves better. She deserves the truth! I am waiting for the day the truth comes out and both Armaan and Ruhi face the consequences of their ill-advised actions. I sincerely hope DKP won’t disappoint us there. There has to be karma !
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Posted: 1 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: sharadrocks

completely agree …while you can empathize with the characters for their past trauma etc, there is only so much of slack you can cut. Owning up to their mistakes is the first step to growing as human beings. My sympathies are entirely with Abhira here because the girl deserves better. She deserves the truth! I am waiting for the day the truth comes out and both Armaan and Ruhi face the consequences of their ill-advised actions. I sincerely hope DKP won’t disappoint us there. There has to be karma !

Why Abhira should know the truth? Armaan does not love her and he knows they are in a deal marriage. She will go after a few months. Why should Armaan and Ruhi should tell her the truth? As in the end, they had never told her to fall in love with your contract husband?

Armaan and Ruhi do not owe anything to Abhira right now. If Ar knows Abhira loves him then he should tell her to stop her feelings from growing more and more. Right now abhir has upfront said she has no relation with Armaan and it will be over in a year. Armaan and Ruhi do not want to complicate her life by telling the truth as her main purpose of staying in PH is to complete her studies not to play ghar ghar ka khel.

If Abhira falls in love with Armaan it's neither Ruhi's mistake nor Armaan's. As neither Armaan told her he would continue this marriage nor Ruhi pressured her to love Armaan. If Abhira did not know about his ex gf and if ar would have given her mixed signals we can still feel bad for her. But she knows AR has a girlfriend. She does not even know clearly what is the current state. If she goes with her feelings even after knowing all this then it's her mistake no one else's mistake.

Potentially spoiling Rohith's life was the only thing that Armaan and Ruhi did which was wrong. Technically whatever is Abhira's state Rohith is majorly responsible as he does not know the truth about deal marriage. He should have informed his bhabi. But Armaan and Ruhi both know about deal marriage so they need not care about Abhira. As both parties know they are in this for a year.

If you look at it from a neutral perspective Roohi and Armaan are not answerable to Abhira. Whatever happens to her after one year is neither Armaan's nor Ruhi's responsibility. If Armaan falls in love with her then it's different.

Edited by firewings_diya - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: Pinecone

I agree.

But thats why I have no sympathy for Armaan or Ruhi. Both are responsible for the mess in their life.

They need to rise above their self victimization and be honest about what they want in life.

Their dosti dosti game is ridiculous.

And thats why all my sympathy lies only with Abhira.

She's lovable.

I dont hate Ruhi or Armaan. But I'd like them to see them own up to their flaws, and grow. They screwed up but life is presenting them opportunities to move on and be happy but these 2 keep rejecting it and getting trapped in past. And if they really do love each other they can still be together and tell Abhira the truth. She'll leave and infact maybe even help them be together if they push the right buttons. But i get frustrated when Abhira is compared with either of them or excuses are made for Armaan or Ruhis irrational behavior. This whole past trauma etc and all is not a good enough excuse for their mistakes.

Abhira hasn't had an easy life either. Her mom may have protected her and raised her well but she's definitely missed out on a family. She's craved it. She had no friends or siblings. Her whole world was one person and so losing her mom is extremely traumatic too. But she has healthy coping skills. Neither Armaan nor Ruhi do.

Especially not Ruhi. Because she's seen that Armaan is not gonna pick her and only leads her on, yet she's there with zero self respect still having romantic feelings and projecting her anger on the wrong person - Abhira who doesn't know their past.

Abhira is an easy target for both Armaan and Ruhi, infact the whole family. And thats upsetting.


Yes! This is so true!

Abhira has her good and bad moments. She can be annoying, misunderstand Armaan easily, be openly loud and defiant instead of practical and calm, etc., but these situations come across as a learning experience for her. Once she realizes that she's in the wrong, she doesn't mind apologizing immediately and owning up to her mistakes.

But that is not the case with Armaan and Ruhi. Especially Ruhi. Armaan does own up to his mistakes and apologizes. But in a lot of cases, the consequences are far worse when makes a mistake, especially for Abhira. And Ruhi, the less said, the better. My entire point in this post is that Ruhi is not a vamp kinda character, who feels malicious or spiteful towards Abhira. At this moment, whatever her feelings are, good or bad, they are for Armaan. And at the moment, the recipient of most of Armaan's feelings, good or bad, is Abhira. Which is why we see a very conflicted approach towards Abhira from Ruhi's end.

And Garvita seems to be doing a much better job at portraying these emotions - where she doesn't want Abhira to get into trouble, but the minute Armaan leans towards Abhira, her jealousy and resentment get better of her and she takes the opposite stance. Pratiksha's portrayal of Ruhi was her just blatantly lusting after Armaan, or at least, that's what her expression implied most of the time (probably this was influenced by their off-screen equation, you never know.)

Posted: 1 years ago
#56

I don’t think I have at any point said Ruhi owes Abhira the truth. So I don’t see the point of your bringing Ruhi up in that context . Secondly, if you have been watching the show, you would have noticed that irrespective of what they say or don’t say, their relationship is no deal. They are clearly emotionally connected. Armaan has given enough reasons for Abhira to believe that he thinks of her as his wife and not just a deal. Given his expectations from her, I believe that he owes her the truth! Beyond that, if you choose to believe what you do, then I think we should respectfully agree to disagree on this point ..cheers!

Edited by sharadrocks - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharadrocks

I don’t think I have at any point said Ruhi owes Abhira the truth. So I don’t see the point of your bringing Ruhi up in that context . Secondly, if you have been watching the show, you would have noticed that irrespective of what they say or don’t say, their relationship is no deal. They are clearly emotionally connected. Armaan has given enough reasons for Abhira to believe that he thinks of her as his wire and not just a real. Beyond that, if you choose to believe what you do, then I think we should respectfully agree to disagree on this point ..cheers!

He has always shown mixed signals and ppl call him pendulum for a reasonsmiley36 Unless they show Armaan's POV where he confesses that he is falling in love with Abhira or he tells Ruhi that he has started falling for Abhira we can not conclude with his 2 min lollypop scenes as that's only for online viewers. The post was about Ruhi. So Ruhi would be part of my comment.

So yes we can agree to disagree.!!

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Posted: 1 years ago
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Armaan is definitely leading her on. She asked about his past but he said its over. So in her mind he had a past but its over. And he is the one who keeps manaoing her, giving her signals that maybe they can have a real relationship when he calls her meri biwi, hugs her close calling her a pari , taking her to a special place where he only takes family etc. And even his family who knows him well make statements calling them love birds or saying things like Armaan loves Abhira etc. So his gestures are looking like that of a husband to everyone in his family too because they don't ever witness him and Ruhi together. He has not said he loves Abhira but he is definitely getting more comfortable with her. Even if shaadi was deal, its not fake. So Armaan owes her truth especially when he expects her to be honest with him all the time. He's the one who stopped her from leaving multiple times, brought her back in room etc. every time she has tried to distance herself, he gives her signals. He took her to his special place, told her she's important to him. Would he accept it if roles were reversed and he was living with Abhiras ex in one roof without knowing it?! She has already expressed to him clearly that she wants straight forwardness and didn't appreciate him telling Ruhi about their deal shaadi after he forbid her from telling the family. Its not fair to Abhira to be living with his ex under one roof and tolerating the barbs Ruhi throws at her.

Abhira knew he had a past but she never signed up to be living with his ex in the same house. And if Armaan truly was sticking to the deal they made, telling her his past with Ruhi will keep her distanced from him with zero hope. He is giving her the impression that he is not hung up on his past so obviously she'll feel like she has a chance especially when he starts treating her like a wife.

And Ruhi cant project her frustrations on Abhira if she knows Abhira has no idea about their past.

Posted: 1 years ago
#59

The post is about Ruhi . But I did not say Ruhi owed Abhira the truth. I was only questioning why you were bringing Ruhi up in that context. Nothing more!

Edited by sharadrocks - 1 years ago
Posted: 1 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Why Abhira should know the truth? Armaan does not love her and he knows they are in a deal marriage. She will go after a few months. Why should Armaan and Ruhi should tell her the truth? As in the end, they had never told her to fall in love with your contract husband?

Armaan and Ruhi do not owe anything to Abhira right now. If Ar knows Abhira loves him then he should tell her to stop her feelings from growing more and more. Right now abhir has upfront said she has no relation with Armaan and it will be over in a year. Armaan and Ruhi do not want to complicate her life by telling the truth as her main purpose of staying in PH is to complete her studies not to play ghar ghar ka khel.

If Abhira falls in love with Armaan it's neither Ruhi's mistake nor Armaan's. As neither Armaan told her he would continue this marriage nor Ruhi pressured her to love Armaan. If Abhira did not know about his ex gf and if ar would have given her mixed signals we can still feel bad for her. But she knows AR has a girlfriend. She does not even know clearly what is the current state. If she goes with her feelings even after knowing all this then it's her mistake no one else's mistake.

Potentially spoiling Rohith's life was the only thing that Armaan and Ruhi did which was wrong. Technically whatever is Abhira's state Rohith is majorly responsible as he does not know the truth about deal marriage. He should have informed his bhabi. But Armaan and Ruhi both know about deal marriage so they need not care about Abhira. As both parties know they are in this for a year.

If you look at it from a neutral perspective Roohi and Armaan are not answerable to Abhira. Whatever happens to her after one year is neither Armaan's nor Ruhi's responsibility. If Armaan falls in love with her then it's different.


@Bold - I do agree with your perspective to an extent. Ruhi and Armaan don't owe Abhira the truth about their "relationship". But my problem with them arises when Ruhi thinks that its okay kinda barge into Abhira's space with Armaan and question everything they do, or rather, Abhira does. And Armaan lets Ruhi do it, and in a way, he's enabling her.

Abhira is with Armaan based on her mother's trust, and by extension, her own. So she owns Armaan an explanation of her actions, and vice versa, since they are married. However, Ruhi is in no way qualified to question Armaan and Abhira's relationship - be it real or fake, because she doesn't belong to the picture. That's the major bone of contention.

Armaan - Ruhi's past has nothing to do with Abhira. Like you said, Rohit is their victim, that's it. But if Ruhi makes it a point to keep poking her nose into Armaan's life with Abhira, it kinda gets frustrating.

Again, like you said, Armaan and Ruhi don't have to come clean about their past, as long as they don't create issues in Abhira's life because of that. But clearly, that's not happening.

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