Resurgence | Arshi FF | Thread 2 | thread 3 link posted on page 150 - Page 87

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THERAPY urgently required. I don't know after reading the chapter one sentence bugged me the most. ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT CHOTTE. But Not for the sake of ur happiness. Because in the chakkar of right people tends to hurt the one who is close to them. Being selfish is Okay. I hate this self preaching and advices of being selfless, right, bla bla shits when it comes to our happiness, our life. Because I don't know whom u r proving. No one is scrutinising u with binoculars arnav. It is OK to ask for help. Relieved to know that he went to Akash and spill the burden. Although I am not satisfied with his running away from suggestions.

AMAN I LOVE U(i am willing to marry u if u r single)

Arnie dimag se ganja literally safeguarded the will and everything but Aman and his detective mind did precautions as soon as he heard the name of the duo BLM(bit#hy LaMa). The So called goody shoe thought it was easy to sack young billionaire producer with the fake embryo. In her mind or in Ma's she thought once guilty Arnav started spending time with very Emotionally low BL,

1)few more photos, change his mind about how she is perfect than his Dehati wife,

2) once divorce is on card(because b4 arnav spilling the news they never knew) her legs and hands open for poor emotionally vulnerable arnav.

3) Fake miscarriage during divorce proceedings.

4) PR team getting involved mud slandering the ex wife

5) slowly confirming the relationship, her obsession comes True.

But arnav clarified about his dislike regarding babies and no emotional support for rising the baby and no relationship in cards and all these things were never expected by the BLM. They might assume that since there r no babies in picture to destroy the marriage why not introduce one to destroy the foundation. I seriously don't understand their motive regarding this drama. Maybe lama assumed that once Khushi got the news of some other woman pregnant with her husband she will eventually leave arnav?? Arghhh will wait for BLM PoV

But guess what L is correct on one thing Home wrecker tag is worst and even with best PR, General public will not buy the story. Female actress with limited career span will be blacklisted from the producers association. Because business babu bhaiyya business. Career graph of goody shoe Sridevi was best example, then there r the very infamous Rakhi. Men they r involved with were never got the similar treatment. They can re enter the market after many years in exile though with character roles or some mummy roles in sleeves.

Yes, I understand that he did leave something in his will for the child but that doesn’t make up for what the intent of the will was. To have no connection to the child what so ever. Only fulfilling his basic responsibilities.

I have always said, I have never faulted Arnav for not wanting children. It was the way he went about it in regards to Khushi. He stopped all discussion and then in guilt pulled away.

He needs severe prolonged therapy and because of his behavior now Khushi does too. Thank God, Khushi understood him enough to stay on the pill. If they would have had a child there would be a third life tragically impacted by an emotionally distant father.

I understand you are not comfortable with Arnav not wanting to be emotionally connected to a child. But, do you think that after he was ready to sacrifice his entire relationship of 10 years with Khushi, it would be a nice thing to do to get emotionally connected with another woman's child, a child he did not want to have ever? How is that fair to Khushi? Or to him? A man who has panic attacks by the idea of having a child!

As you mentioned, he got taken advantage of: but say, even if he didn't, I think he is well within his rights to tell the mother of the child upfront about how much involvement she can expect out of him. It is not like he forced Lavanya to have sex with him and then ran away from the responsibility....! Assuming what happened was a mistake, and I don't want to get into pro-life/pro-choice debate, but if the woman is entitled to choice of keeping the baby or having an abortion, the man should be entitled to the choice of not being emotionally involved with a baby he did not want to have in the first place! By law, he offers her child support and that's all she should be expecting for a baby that was conceived as a mistake! Anything more, is just a Hallmark movie, not reality! He also offered her support during pregnancy, at least until he knew she was lying.

The above paragraph is assuming, that the night was a "drunken mistake" from both ends, which I do not agree with, to be honest. I do not think it was a drunken mistake. He was clearly violated, and now is being expected to own up to a mistake he did not make! I think that is highly unfair, but that is my opinion.

You Know, of course I don’t expect him to be elated about a baby even if it’s his own, especially with the guilt he is carrying that is at the heart of the demise of his marriage. But to want no contact and take no interest in an innocent child that he fathered is heartless.

Even in the circles that Lavenya runs the child will have a hard time. It’s India. I am sure things are changing but not that rapidly. And the mother is a public figure so the child will be exposed to scrutiny all his growing up years. For the child to know the father abandoned him is just heartbreaking to me. And the irony is that Khushi ran a NGO for abandoned women and kids. I’m not saying marry Lavenya for God’s sake but he owes that innocent child emotional support. He screwed up big time and now in my estimation he needs to do the right thing and provide some emotional support to that innocent. Even in the US it’s not easy and it’s not that rare.

Somehow, I think this decision would make Arnav fall further in Khushi’s eyes. She will be heartbroken if he tells her the complete truth about the non existent pregnancy anyway. The thought that he could have fathered a child by another will gut her.

I actually do not agree to premise that he screwed up big time. I do not know where you stand on the pro-life/pro-choice debate, but this is right up there with a woman who was raped being forced to keep the child because.... Republicans!

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

I actually do not agree to premise that he screwed up big time. I do not know where you stand on the pro-life/pro-choice debate, but this is right up there with a woman who was raped being forced to keep the child because.... Republicans!

I’m with you on this. He did as much as he is physically and financially capable of doing. In fact he went out of his way to do the right thing within his limitations (given he never wanted children to begin with).
You cannot force a woman to carry a baby to term nor can you force a father to accept a child. Coming to India I’m sure they are in a better situation than we are right here with a bunch of antiabortion republicans !!

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

You Know, of course I don’t expect him to be elated about a baby even if it’s his own, especially with the guilt he is carrying that is at the heart of the demise of his marriage. But to want no contact and take no interest in an innocent child that he fathered is heartless.

Even in the circles that Lavenya runs the child will have a hard time. It’s India. I am sure things are changing but not that rapidly. And the mother is a public figure so the child will be exposed to scrutiny all his growing up years. For the child to know the father abandoned him is just heartbreaking to me. And the irony is that Khushi ran a NGO for abandoned women and kids. I’m not saying marry Lavenya for God’s sake but he owes that innocent child emotional support. He screwed up big time and now in my estimation he needs to do the tight thing and provide some emotional support to that innocent. Even in the US it’s not easy and it’s not that rare.

And the best option for Such situation is Abortion. Nothing wrong with it. Arnav didn't say that word but in his mind of mind he want that. La in her obsession is ready to bring a child in this world in her imaginary bubble that there will be a happily ever after waiting for her with Arnav. He is a honest person so he just voiced his thought about the embryo(one month since the ONS so embryo). Here Lavanya is to be blamed she knew if she continued with her so called pregnancy, her character, the child's birth everything will be in question. No prblm being single mother but not at the cost of innocent life. People tends to be more emotional than practical here.

I assure you I am pro choice. But if the mother chooses to keep the baby the partner in the deed has a responsibility to make sure that child has as good a life as possible. And for me emotional support is important as is material support. For a child to be unwanted and abandoned through no fault of their own is a terrible burden.

I am not saying that Arnav has to be a soccer dad or a helicopter parent but to have no contact is just wrong.

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

I assure you I am pro choice. But if the mother chooses to keep the baby the partner in the deed has a responsibility to make sure that child has as good a life as possible. And for me emotional support is important as is material support. For a child to be unwanted and abandoned through no fault of their own is a terrible burden.

I am not saying that Arnav has to be a soccer dad or a helicopter parent but to have no contact is just wrong.

But he is not the partner in deed, is he? I mean I know you do not agree with that analysis. But that's what my stand is.

But just for the sake of argument, let us assume that since Arnav does not know he was violated, he thinks he is an equal partner in the mistake at the moment he made the choice to not be involved in the child's life. I still think that if he knows he is incapable of being a good father (the idea of a child not only terrifies him, but makes him rage), it is better he is not in its life. I would rather that child grow up with the idea that they were brought to the world by a nameless entity! I know a single parent (in India), and trust me her child is much much happier without a deadbeat/absent father in her life.

Also, since you agree that Lavanya and Arnav are equally responsible for the mistake, don't you think it is Lavanya's responsibility to think how her child's life would be if she brought it into the world? Especially after knowing how much the child's supposed father wants to be involved? I think what Arnav chose was the best he could possibly do knowing the facts he does. He did not abandon the kid. He was upfront about his intentions to the mother. He was ready to provide monetary support. I do not believe he was capable of anything more, anyway. At least he was aware of that.

Originally posted by: You-Know-Who

But he is not the partner in deed, is he? I mean I know you do not agree with that analysis. But that's what my stand is.

But just for the sake of argument, let us assume that since Arnav does not know he was violated, he thinks he is an equal partner in the mistake at the moment he made the choice to not be involved in the child's life. I still think that if he knows he is incapable of being a good father (the idea of a child not only terrifies him, but makes him rage), it is better he is not in its life. I would rather that child grow up with the idea that they were brought to the world by a nameless entity! I know a single parent (in India), and trust me her child is much much happier without a deadbeat/absent father in her life.

Also, since you agree that Lavanya and Arnav are equally responsible for the mistake, don't you think it is Lavanya's responsibility to think how her child's life would be if she brought it into the world? Especially after knowing how much the child's supposed father wants to be involved? I think what Arnav chose was the best he could possibly do knowing the facts he does. He did not abandon the kid. He was upfront about his intentions to the mother. He was ready to provide monetary support. I do not believe he was capable of anything more, anyway. At least he was aware of that.

I think you summed up my stand well.

Bollybabe I get where you are coming from. A child does need emotional support. And I believe Arnav does understand that. He tells Lavanya upfront because she needs to know this factor before considering bringing a new life into the world.

Arnav has all the money in the world to raise a child with Khushi with an army of servants. He could be as absent as he wants if that is the case. That has never been the issue. He understands the need of a father in life and thus, he didn’t want to have a child when he cannot provide that emotional support. his reaction to him being a father was exactly what he predicted. He felt no emotional connect to the child.

And the thing is it’s not a switch. Arnav is literally someone who has been dealing with the issue since more than a year and is dead sure that he does not want a child. Ever. To the point where he is ready to let Khushi go (who I believe he loves very much) but not give in again.

I think what you are saying is something Arnav agrees with. A child does need and emotional support and he is not someone who could provide that (for whatever reasons). So the mother needed to be aware before making the final decision.