Katha Ankahee -- #11 daily episode DT - Page 113

Originally posted by: kushikumari

Shalzie,

I typed out a message earlier, not sure where it went. But just want to say, well said. I love subtleties- the eyes, the face, the body language. Makes everything more real. So couldn’t agree more.
Flawed characters make a story interesting! They give us stuff to talk about. 😀 So bring it on. I don’t want a perfect Katha or a perfect Viaan. It is a journey for them individually and together to learn or unlearn the past and thread forward slowly. I am in!

KK

It's terrible when we lose a message! Has happened to me! Thank you for taking the time to type again and respond😊I appreciate it.

I am in too!

Originally posted by: Shalzie

I understand. My mum watches most of the popular shows. For the life of me, I don't understand how she does that! I recently tried watching Ghum for Harshad. I could only tolerate 2 eps!

Leaps have become the new fashion! You may get attached to a couple but do not expect a happy ending! They get murdered so that a new generation gets introduced!

The lack of quality and absence of morals in these shows is seriously alarming. Marriage has become a joke! Fall in love, get married, get separated, reconcile and get married again! Now we have a new fashion where the leads get married or are in the process of marrying someone else! I miss those days of 'hum 1 baar jeete hain,1 baar marte hain,shaadi bhi 1 baar hoti hai,aur pyaar wo bhi 1 baar hota hai'....the irony is that Rahul fell in love again!🤣but that's ok cause I believe in second chances. Unfortunately, most of the time, leads in shows get married again for the wrong reasons.

I personally feel that Indians have a sensibility which many don't. This is the main reason I keep looking for good content cause I know that it's worth it when they get it right. I like KA...Doesn't matter that the pace is slow but it's still much better than everything else playing on prime TV right now.

Agreed completely!

Everything, and literally EVERYTHING else is SO trash!

Idk why we haven't been able to adopt the system of having finite series, sticking to the story and finishing it when required.

Certain shows have taken so many leaps, at this point idek what year they are in. Im sure my future children will also see those shows with great great great grandchildren of the initial leads 😂

With Katha Ankahee, my expectations are high because we have gotten such beautiful episodes (and honestly, are still getting them! - That Viaan monologue made me fall in love with Adnan all over again🤣)

So thats why sometimes with the pace getting a bit slow, I get impatient as I feel theyre not doing justice to the amazing work these people are doing 😂

Now I want a NICE LOGICAL closure to the Shamita case and some proper scenes between Katha and Viaan!

Originally posted by: Bechain_Bulbul

Thanks for pointing it out that ons was because of both of their mistakes. I was tired now defending viaan when everyone used to bash only him for that night 😆

Originally posted by: ajacob31

Then we can argue Katha also got the money she wanted and should leave it at that. Rules apply to both equally. Here the deal was done with both their consent. Both will loose if it’s brought it up again. Just because Shamita made noise and filed complaint first doesn’t put her in a favorable position. It’s not about who complained first or who acted first, the committee has to investigate better rather than brushing off what Jenny had to say with some stupid justifications.

Viaan never followed the Shartein made by Katha completely. So it's Katha's time to find loophole in her their made- up rules.

In case of Viaan - Shamita, sms is stronger evidence than Shamita's soft flirt. If no sms, then this will also considered.

They said Viaan never reported this behavior to HR. Everything has to be recorded officially. Like there is no official email send to Shamita about her behavior.

See different people has different personal limitation. If a person is touching and u r not comfortable, you have to warn him/her first. If further progress then made a complaint to HR. HR will send the warning mail to the accussed keeping his manager in loop. That's why this is the advantage of complaining first.

It is common in case of harassment that blame is shifted towards the complainer because of his/her overfriendly nature. Committee has to decide what is possibility. A third person's view can be easily ignored.

Like a said in my example, they used to seat in very corner seat in dark place even when no body are seating like romantic couple do this. In my view, that girl has major role in boys approach because she never made a line but when it become harassment, it depend upon complaint and my view is easily ignored.

Suppose Katha made a complaint against Eshan about repeating love proposal, then third person view might be why Katha is allowing Eshan extra-friendly approach and touching and because of that it is Katha's fault, this type of third person judgement is easily ignored in front of committee.

Originally posted by: Twinklestar139

RIGHT. And this might be an unpopular opinion but I feel like whatever happened that night was not the mistake. The mistake that happened was made in the office when Viaan made the offer and Katha accepted it. Reason being I am not someone who looks at ONSs negatively or in a sinful manner. It happens every day in every corner of the planet. If both parties have agreed to it, who am I to judge them. I know people still believe that even though Katha accepted the offer it was by force. But that really depends on how you view ONS. Some take ONSs very normally and casually and to others it might be a sin and I respect everyone's opinions no matter what it is. But if we think about it, Viaan could have put any other condition as a deal for that money. Would we still blame him for the offer to the same extent? Because let's be real no one gives such a huge amount of money away for free. If Katha rejected that offer and Viaan forced her, it would be a different case altogether but let's not get there cause that situation is out of the scope.

People here are mixing my statement of why Viaan didn't ask the reason for loan. Let me clarify my statement :-

1) It is OK Viaan didn't ask the reason for loan. Usually people in higher position like CEO are rude and blunt. They are good in decision making rather than good communicator. That's why we have Manager in between as manager basic skill is good communication. In this case Jitu Bhai act as medium and he asked nicely why she needed money and why they can't give.

2) Person who need money are responsible for telling the true reason for loan. No company will give even 10 lac without knowing and verifying reason. It is clearly Katha's mistake of not telling Viaan.

3) Viaan asking for ONS is a legally wrong. Viaan in no circumstances can ask for ONS. No where Katha look like she is flirting with Viaan to get money.

4) Making an excuse that Viaan didn't know the reason before asking ONS is not valid. Saying Katha did wrong is called victim blaming. You point out victim mistake to justify criminal action.

It is Viaan who didn't ask Katha the reason for loan before making ONS proposal. It has nothing to do with official purpose like leave application.

People are saying Viaan can ask for ONS but not the reason for loan 😂 which I completely don't understand.

Originally posted by: ajacob31

It’s not boss’s job to ask for detailed reason on why you are applying for loan.🤣 There’s something called employee’s privacy. Also you don’t walk up to your boss’s desk and ask for a loan. You could ask for the process for applying loan and apply thru the right channel…

When katha has ever considered viaan as boss🤣

1. He is always standing in front of her while she sits comfortably not even bothering to offer seat to him.

2. She has on many occasions undermined his authority and acted on her plan. She has even undermined teji's authority.

3. She behaves as if she is entitled to judge him however he did grave mistake in judging her.

4. I have never seen her following any official procedure, she just takes leaves, breaks like she is equal shareholder in company.

🤣🤣

Tbh, she has always done what she thinks fit not what boss has told her to do and after ons, she has taken advantage of Viaan's guilt and behaved as she is someone superior to him....bitter truth...but yeah...ons helped her a lot.

Originally posted by: Neutral2

People here are mixing my statement of why Viaan didn't ask the reason for loan. Let me clarify my statement :-

1) It is OK Viaan didn't ask the reason for loan. Usually people in higher position like CEO are rude and blunt. They are good in decision making rather than good communicator. That's why we have Manager in between as manager basic skill is good communication. In this case Jitu Bhai act as medium and he asked nicely why she needed money and why they can't give.

2) Person who need money are responsible for telling the true reason for loan. No company will give even 10 lac without knowing and verifying reason. It is clearly Katha's mistake of not telling Viaan.

3) Viaan asking for ONS is a legally wrong. Viaan in no circumstances can ask for ONS. No where Katha look like she is flirting with Viaan to get money.

4) Making an excuse that Viaan didn't know the reason before asking ONS is not valid. Saying Katha did wrong is called victim blaming. You point out victim mistake to justify criminal action.

It is Viaan who didn't ask Katha the reason for loan before making ONS proposal. It has nothing to do with official purpose like leave application.

People are saying Viaan can ask for ONS but not the reason for loan 😂 which I completely don't understand.

Originally posted by: Shalzie

I understand. My mum watches most of the popular shows. For the life of me, I don't understand how she does that! I recently tried watching Ghum for Harshad. I could only tolerate 2 eps!

Leaps have become the new fashion! You may get attached to a couple but do not expect a happy ending! They get murdered so that a new generation gets introduced!

The lack of quality and absence of morals in these shows is seriously alarming. Marriage has become a joke! Fall in love, get married, get separated, reconcile and get married again! Now we have a new fashion where the leads get married or are in the process of marrying someone else! I miss those days of 'hum 1 baar jeete hain,1 baar marte hain,shaadi bhi 1 baar hoti hai,aur pyaar wo bhi 1 baar hota hai'....the irony is that Rahul fell in love again!🤣but that's ok cause I believe in second chances. Unfortunately, most of the time, leads in shows get married again for the wrong reasons.

I personally feel that Indians have a sensibility which many don't. This is the main reason I keep looking for good content cause I know that it's worth it when they get it right. I like KA...Doesn't matter that the pace is slow but it's still much better than everything else playing on prime TV right now.

I dont mind second or third chances that much or seperation or leap. If they show everything in finite series then probably all those tracks will not bother that much.

But I dont like is the mindset of itv creatives who thinks they can stretch a tv show like a rubber band and keep it running like never ending saga. Only for this reason they keep bringing one afer another illogical tracks, never completely resolve issues between main leads.

And more than above what I seriously hate about itv creatives is that they bring social topics and problems through their FL like dark skinned girl, uneducated girl, abusive marriage, abusive in laws, EMA, forced marriage etc. and give false hope to show something progressive as in how FL fights against society and deliver justice finally. But due to the tendencies of creatives to stretch a tv show, they keep showing the injustice done to FL, her tortures, her pain, her trauma. Viewers keep patience that at the end atleast FL will fight back and punish everyone. But when that "justice" finally come, its too late and too little that it doesn't even have any impact.

Means they spent so much time in showing us abuses that it almost glorifies such behaviour and they dont show FL's fight back, justice, punishment at all or very less is shown that it has no impact at all. Thus itv creatives end up in contributing to social problems not eradicate them. The number one show is a classic example of this. How in the garb of progressive show creatives keeps giving us regular doses of regressiveness.

I am posting here an old spoof video of tvf. Its was popular video, most of us must have seen it already. I find it so funny that I have seen it many times.😆 But these tvf guys were genius. They got the working, thinking of itv makers so correctly. This is how itv show is made-

https://youtu.be/ewFiQVw-IkY

Yes that's what I am saying. There is no need to whitewash any character by saying :-

1) It is Viaan money that saved Katha's son's life.

2) Katha didn't tell the reason for loan so Katha's mistake is bigger than Viaan

3) It is not Boss responsibility to ask for reason but he can ask for ONS.

Originally posted by: RatiPandey615

Agreed completely!

Everything, and literally EVERYTHING else is SO trash!

Idk why we haven't been able to adopt the system of having finite series, sticking to the story and finishing it when required.

Certain shows have taken so many leaps, at this point idek what year they are in. Im sure my future children will also see those shows with great great great grandchildren of the initial leads 😂

With Katha Ankahee, my expectations are high because we have gotten such beautiful episodes (and honestly, are still getting them! - That Viaan monologue made me fall in love with Adnan all over again🤣)

So thats why sometimes with the pace getting a bit slow, I get impatient as I feel theyre not doing justice to the amazing work these people are doing 😂

Now I want a NICE LOGICAL closure to the Shamita case and some proper scenes between Katha and Viaan!

I think Kaviaan will begin after this😊they needed to bring out the ugly in the open again. They are actually quite courageous. Since it's an ITV show, I didn't expect then to delve further into that dark night but they are proving me wrong. In fact, they are proving many of us wrong and coming with twists we didn't expect. Ehsan turned dark but then they made him grey. Look at the Yuvraj-Meera track. I honestly do not have patience for this track but they are taking the time to show how Yuvraj is manipulating Meera...how many women fall into this trap? They feel that the man really loves them, is not understood by his current partner and will leave that family and make one with them? I loved the scene where Yuvraj told Meera to leave once he saw his father. A man who refuses to acknowledge you in front of his family....this man will leave his family afterwards? On one hand, they show Reet who pushes away Yuvraj with her acts but on the other hand, they show how Yuvraj manipulates Meera to get the love and respect which he craves without giving her any back!

This set of writers is actually taking time to tackle sensitive issues but I think that a section of the audience is not adapting to the direction of the scenes. I am all for subtle but maybe a middle ground is required where some drama is provided. I want the show to do well. They will have to find a better way to sustain the interest of the audience.

Have you seen Yeh Pyaar Nahi To Kya Hain? I watched it after it ended. I absolutely loved that show! The casting was excellent. I think that it was a finite series. The writing was crisp, and they stuck to the storyline. I think that KA makers should have a look at that show. Although it was subtle too, it had its share of drama which was done very elegantly. I don't recall one boring moment, no unnecessary track and scenes were not stretched. Everything just flowed.