Tum mardo ki problem kya hai - Page 21

Originally posted by: Sherry24

Yesterday when V accused Sai, it was a parallel of Ajinkya fight. In more ways than one, today I feel this is a parallel of post anniversary fight.

The phase where V had started to completely ignore Sai. I was one of those who had enjoyed the "initial" phase and took sadistic pleasures in it till it took a nasty turn and V became unbearable.

Let's go back to the hotel argument between Sai-V after she convinced Sam to return home. And then do a comparison with the face off today.

Similarities (The latter looks more like a response to all that was said during that hotel room conversation)

V considered Sai his wife then, he still does. And his actions screamed of that. But he does not acknowledge it. Instead said ek rishta hua karta tha. As usual his words and actions don't match.

V - Tum meri insult karti ho, because main tumhara kuch nahi lagta. I'm a nobody to you

Sai - Aap mere kuch nahi lagte. You are a nobody to me

V - Mere ghar ke mamlon mein dakhal mat dena. Aaj ke baad, mere kisi bhi personal life mein interfere mat karna. Galti se bhi nahi

Sai - Aap hote kaun ho meri zindagi mein dhakhal dene waale. Aap kaun ho, Mujhse jaane wale meri zindagi mein kya chal raha hai. Kya hai aapko isse?

Agli baar mere saath aisi batameezi karne ki koshish ki to wahi jawab milega. Police complaint karoongi. Kanoon ke kathghare mein jab dena

V- Main aaj se tumhare saath apne saare righte todta hoon. Humaare beech yeh rishta, ya jo bhi tha, ya nahi tha, ya jo bhi bacha tha, woh hamesha hamesha ke liye khatam karta hoon.Tumhara aur mera ab koi naata nahi hai

S - Aap mere liye ajnabi ho. Aap mere koi nahi ho, Aap mere kuch nahi lagte

Mere dil mein 1% feeling thi, woh maine aaj khatam kar di

V - Main apni kisi bhi harkat ke liye na tumhe koi justification na kisi baat ko samjhaunga

S - Meri aapko ko koi jawabeyi nahi banti

Now look at these dialogues and their meaning in entirety

Sai - Aapko mere ye P ke beech kisi ek ko chunna hoga

What V was looking for was Sai to choose him.

V - Jo kuch kahaan wo mere jehen mei chap chuka hai. Aur main ise kabhi bhuloonga nahi. Ab main tumhe apna aisa roop dikhaunga jo tumne aaj tak nahi dekha hai. Yeh mera waada hai tumse

Aap wada mat kijiye. Kyonki unhe nibhana aapke bas ki baat nahi hai.

Whatever V said today will stay with Sai for the longest time. She will not forget this insult and character rip. And she will be unforgiving. He will see a different side of Sai now.

V said Sai will see a different side of him. If this is a parallel with role reversal then it should be ideally Sai who should showing that side to him.

Now lets come to the promise bit. Sai said he does not stick to it. And V responded that he will prove her wrong. I want to take that as a stand alone statement. One that was a promise of their relationship. Will he be able to prove her wrong here?

My whole point is if this is actually a role reversal, wouldn’t it be Sai showing her angst and V trying to go after her? And what about the accident? It was Sai then, and with the circumstance right now and VM (and IF spoiler) in picture it should be Sai again? V doesn't fit in here.

Now you mentioned anniversary, you do have a good point. V had ended all relationship with Sai after the fight. He didnt reveal about the cafe conversation when questioned and wants Sai to admit herself as his wife to get her answer.

Post leap he knows he is married but wants Sai to question him as wife. He is going around saying P is his wife but couldnt stand Sai saying he is nobody to her. His way of thinking is too 'complex', it becomes hard to understand him. Sai said he is sailing in two boats and it fits here too.

What accident spoiler? Is it on IF?

Originally posted by: purplegirl7

Sai continuous her speech about allegations on women's character no matter what they do. Some of them Gulbya did. Some of them Chavan's and V too did. And today it exploded with V's question and allegations.

On paper maybe Sai is still V's wife. He might not care about pehli biwi, dusri biwi. But not Sai. Sai might have still hold on to their marriage, but she let go of it the moment she found out he has married again. Even as mother of his child, he does not have the rights to ask those questions. For now he is only her patient's baba.

Sai reminding DCP of law👏. He used to use his right as guardian or husband to justify his behavior. Now he has none. He was calling Jagtap as gunda, but that gunda has changed. V is still the same. Today got to see the Sai during PD lunch fiasco where she threatened to file police complaint against him. Keep it up Sai👍🏼.

Aap changed to tum, then changed to aap, then to tum back.

Vinu's reaction to the green juice is so me. Now even P could not see Sai as Vinu's doctor only. Her deeply planted roots and sindoor is in danger. Wants Vinu to win the school race so that 'woh' goes away from their life forever. Tumhari jeet mein, mumma ki jeet. Hmm..Its not just a mother's win, but a wife's too? Who is 'woh'?

Savi is such a foodie. Always eating samosa while showing off to Vinu. These two are still going on with baba adopting plan. Vinu is confident he will get his baba to agree after winning the race. Savi plans to give samosa to whole Nagpur if Vinu wins and buddhi ki baal if V agrees🤣. Sai dont even have money to buy her diwali dress🤔. Sai seriously need to find a job. Vinu got excited thinking they will stay in neighboring rooms and do masti in CN. I really hope their sibling bond stays strong and their innocence remain with the incoming toofan.

So Savi saw police uncle dragging her aai to his car and driving off. UM is funny. If V knows Savi is his daughter, he is back to damaadji. Sai told her off for hurting her again and again. Post leap, Sai felt bad seeing Savi waiting for her baba, but was not shown the same for V. After V questioned Sai about Jagtap at Kankavli, Sai has said that Savi wants to meet her baba but he is questioning her mother's character. UM reasoned V was worried for her. Seeing his love and care for Vinu, an adopted child, and Savi, Sai felt guilty for depriving V of Savi too. But the V Sai saw today has no right to know anything about Savi. Agree with you Sherry, this V will not give a good upbringing to Savi.

The thappad and 'you are nobody to me' really affected V. But still he has no realization of his wrong nor the reality. All of Sai's speech about women's character and society just went over his head. He has not gotten the answer to his questions, and he is getting crazier.

Borrowing Moor's theory, the woman P stood up for Sai in front of the family but the 'wife P' wants to know what happened with Sai. Surprisingly V didnt share anything with P and focused on Vinu's school race preparation. But why did he apply for leave? Its not like he goes to work diligently. He has been going around in suits and vests more than in his uniform. 'Ab mere bete ko main taiyar karungga jeet ke liye, main''. Its like he is in a competition with Sai.

Sai offered chai and Jagtap fell in love with chai. He changed all his gang's drink from alcohol to chai too. Jagtap might deserve a slap or more for all the wrongs he has done, but not for what happened today. It was totally his father's fault. He saw Jagtap enter her house and went to throw kheechad on her at CN. Like Sai said, he shouldve went straight to Sai. Anyways, Sai and Jagtap's equation on both side was clear today. Jagtap is really attached to Savi. Me too really need backstory on this.

V is in track suits and Vinu in jeans. Who is getting training? Vinu is still struggling to walk but will run in 2 days? Atleast make it 2 weeks. Why am I trying to find sense here? Now Vinu wants to win the race so that doctor auntie, him, baba and Savi, will stay together forever. Whereas V wants Vinu to win the race so that Sai leaves their life forever. Added motivation and pressure at the same time. Vinu has bigger expectation from his win and his loss will also be bigger.

'Main aapko aur doctor auntie ko kabhi proud feel nahi karpaunga'

The 2 person who showed and gave confidence on him.

Vinu wanting doctor auntie, him, baba and Savi, the four of them living together does not sit well for me. Just like Savi cutting out P from her family picture. We as audience know these 4 are a family, and P is outsider. But its not like that for them. How could both leave out P when she is Vinu's mumma?

Nice one as always❤️

If we go by the promo, Sai is set to leave. As per IF spoiler V will take Savi but will return her to Sai. So how will they make Sai stay back. It has to be Vinu.

Or it could be that Vinu suffers some major injury after the persistent efforts of an insensitive father, and they will be forced to get Sai back. With the current status they hate Sai and even after Savi's revelation they may not involve her. But they will be forced to.

This race will be a game changer of sorts. I'm hoping that he runs to Sai after he wins it, instead of P.

Or the way he lost hope, he loses hope when he is about to run, but gets the confidence back when he sees Sai there to cheer him.

Cliché . But guess I'm in for it😉

Originally posted by: Moor278

In real world.. people do stay back for the sake of kids...

In most arranged marriage setup, their is companionship and there's an attachment dictated by societal norms... there may or may not be love...

But this is ITV... a medium which is built on romanticizing everything... show things beyond logic and simple stuff...

So if these two leads who were madly in love with each other once and still hold some sparks, cannot work out their issues and rekindle their relationship ... who will? This is not documentary na...

Which is why Sai is single man woman... there is no new ML... there is no solo journey for her...

People tune in for entertainment... Its just that our idea of entertainment is different from Vanku...

He is like those film makers who want to make an art film but the producers ask for a masala film... a pot boiler has become a burnt vessel 🤣

reality is harsher and more weird than ghumverse...Ghum has stopped dealing with real emotions long back..

My point is everywhere we see be it real or fiction karma comes back with full force except ghum

Vanker has the story from males perspective hence such insensitive treatment...Men who are extremely in love are very very toxic in their relationship..But Vanker turned Virat abusive and who lacks basic principals which dont go down well with me..He could have dealt with marital discord between the couple and in the end how they come together despite all the conflicts..Vanker is on a different tangent which is no aligned with majority of us..Shock factor is necessary for ITV but story arc more important...

I have a friend who was telling me about the ideal couple in his eyes..he told that couple had split up many times in 35 years of marriage and still they have not learnt anything from their mistakes..If the wife leaves her husband would start begging to the elders to bring her back..Everyone knows that he cant live without his wife but still would not show it..

The difference between JM and pakhi is that the former is mentally strong. His reformation has acceptance. Pakhi lost her mental balance when she returned back to CN after Sammy’s death. She had post partum depression, that’s another story. And went to jail. Coming back lost vinu and was responsible somewhere to sai leaving the house and seeing virat losing everything in front of her eyes. It takes a strong mind and personality to overcome this guilt. Sai, virat and JM has this strength. Pakhi is Weak. She is struggling still to do the right thing. She is definitely changed but fear is the worst enemy. It is making her weak.

Sherry, again the parallel.. sai can’t forget JMs deeds. How come virat did? Will we get some explanation? I hope so.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Mujhe bhi uss orphanage job se ummeed thi... but vo to hua hi nahi ... mayeb after Saavi ka reveal, Sai may have to start working there again and phir kuch ho

Yes V will ask her to work.there again after his anger s reduced. Thats why makers r showing, Sai s not getting any job now.

Originally posted by: Sherry24

This aspect where P is perfect mother to Vinu and JM is wrong influence on Savi will also have to prove a point later. A comparison and how the image falls flat.

I have the same thoughts too. Sai leaving CN because she doesnt want P around her son have to be proven right. I am still holding on Sai's word that Bappa will give justice to a mother (something along this line).

Originally posted by: purplegirl7

I have the same thoughts too. Sai leaving CN because she doesnt want P around her son have to be proven right. I am still holding on Sai's word that Bappa will give justice to a mother (something along this line).

And virat’s promise to sai on godh barai day. That only she will be the mother to Vinayak/bianca. Unknowingly it has to come true as well.

By seeing ML s acting and playing spouse with P, will trp audience understand Virat still loves Sai?

We are getting to know more insight into this actions due to all these analysis.

Don't know what trp audience can make out.

There are no IVs also now a days, except for VP scenes

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Originally posted by: Rosyme

By seeing ML s acting and playing spouse with P, will trp audience understand Virat still loves Sai?

We are getting to know more insight into this actions due to all these analysis.

Don't know what trp audience can make out.

There are no IVs also now a days, except for VP scenes

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same thought and i am gladly skipping them..

As many are saying that they will leave if things are dragged beyond the measure then i will too..We did not sign uo for watching devar and mistress bhabi's proximity...

Originally posted by: Moor278

Lovely analysis both of you... @Sherry and Purple...

Sherry... I am totally on board with you .. mentioned the same thing in my review as well. Do have a read.

Purple.. please do visit more and write more. It's a pleasure to read.

About your last question on Vinu skipping P... what's ur take?

Thanks Moor❤️

At first glance I would say for drama effect. To create that suspense and give something positive. See how we all liked that part, even when we were looking for answers. We still liked it.

Now if I have to really look at this deeply. One, I don’t think I have seen P so excited about Vinu's race. She may have wanted him to walk, but the encouragement and the confidence that he can walk and participate in the race came from Sai. I remember having this discussion a while back after the leap, that why is Vinu not so close to P and has got attached to Sai. It was the way she gave him hope. P didn’t. Sympathy can have it's effect, but nothing works better than a dose of encouragement. Because sympathy does nothing to a situation. Encouragement gives hope for a change, for a better tomorrow, realisation of dreams. Sai I believe was the first to said this as a fact "You can walk and you can win the race". How will that impact the mind of a child who is bullied and has a dream that thinks will never come true?

Two. He is attached to Savi. And Savi is Sai's daughter. As a "dada" and as a child who knows the importance of a parent he will always think of Savi and Sai together.

Third. It is a subconscious thing. We have talked about blood calling. But apart from that there is also subconscious registration of facts. We don't realise that we have noticed and picked up something. And there is a kind of repository that stores this. And it can build a perception, a story, a gossip..anything. Something similar to an impression about someone. It is our subconscious mind playing.

Vinu too has picked up things that appeal to him from Sai. In his conscious mind he knows P is his mumma and Sai is Savi's mumma. Now that he knows he is an orphan, his subconscious mind may have a picture of hid Aai, which is Sai. So it is not that he is leaving out P. He is only thinking about the people who together give him perfect joy. The family in his subconscious mind that he wants to be with