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Originally posted by: Moor278

This I agree whole heartedly... the way she has been entangled in their lives... her reveal as the biggest culprit, her death or her willing removal of herself will only bring back SaiRat. Question is kab?

yes very true but keeping Sai n Savi away from Chavan niwas any longer will not add to the story .. they have to be under the same roof .., for whatever reason
And tomorrow trp will be because of Vinayak n Savi nobody else can take that credit

Originally posted by: Sherry24

Language Barriers

Sounds like a very usual term. And we understand the meaning of it in quite literal terms.

"Chor" - For those who are not well versed in Hindi it means "Thief". You know what that means in Malayalam? It means "Cooked Rice". Not even remotely related meanings right? We can credit that to different languages. Let's take another example. "Kora" is a word that is used in different context in the same language (Malayalam). In some parts of the state it means "Barking" and in some it means "Cough".

Weird right? Even more weird is why am I blabbering about this here? I'm sure you understood what I wrote about wrt language but you haven't made the connection to what I really mean to say. Why? I'm conversing in a language that is common to us. Then?

That is because I have only expressed the idea that is unique to my mind. A perspective (language) that is only known to me..my mind. Only when I convey the message in its entirety will you understand the connection. Because that is language of my mind, my heart and I need to translate it for anyone else to interpret it correctly.

Our perspectives, our feelings our actions and reactions here are our personal languages. We need to translate them into a common language for others to understand.

So what happens in a relationship? Any relationship, Friend, lover, spouse, siblings, parents...A mother knowing exactly what that naughty giggle of her baby means, the lover decoding a lone tear that did not escape the eye of his/her partner, a husband reading that it is not all right when wife says that all is well. In a relationship we try to learn this personal language of the other person. It is more about understanding the meaning of those seeming "Nothings, than the other person revealing that what that "Nothing" really meant. There lies the essence and success of a relationship.

Now let’s apply this in Sai-V relationship. They were at loggerheads for the longest time, despite the liking/love simmering within. Why? Not because they didn’t communicate. But because they did not understand each other's language. And I mean the same about V's "Jalebis".Because that's his language. MiMo track was all about them learning each other's language. But Shruti happened before they graduated! Unfortunately for them one speaks Greek and other Latin. Their languages are very complex. V doesn’t talk straight, his actions don’t match his words, and avoids "Real" talk. Sai on the other hand never really shows her pain, never expresses her sufferings. But I would say Sai is the actual topper from the two. She did for the longest time hold on to what she learnt. This was the surrogacy track. It was this very belief in her understanding of V's language that she held onto him despite him going against her. She stuck to him, because she knew where he was actually operating from.However wrong the approach was. However, V didn’t. He didn’t understand her language during miscarriage and neither did he understand her language during pregnancy. He only took what he saw more evidently. Not her personal language. And that is why separation happened. By the end of it Sai started to believe all that she learnt about him was incorrect.

And that is why she didn’t understand his "Poochon na". She doesn't see that longing and jealousy. Though she does try to go back and forth, which is why she keeps melting, but his actions make her believe she was wrong. "Main jitni baar sochti hoon ki aap isse nahi gir sakte aap aur zyada neeche gir jaate hain"

V has been a slow learner. I always say "Yeh banda cheating karke pass hua hai". He never really understood Sai's language. Never went beyond what she expressed. Which rarely had her true feelings. And that is why he didn’t understand the generic accusations and social issues around woman that Sai spoke about. He didn't connect them with Sai. What did he really take from their entire conversation. "The Slap" and "You are nobody to me". Words and actions that were loud and clear! Rest have no recollection value for him. They were ramblings of an overly self obsessed and egoist woman.

So what do we do when the other person does not understand our language? We "Translate". But that is not happening. If V had directly told her what happened, how he suffered and why he married, things would have sorted. And if Sai had retorted to every accusation personal context, the slow head would have understood.

But then they will not.

What next? There has to be someone else who understand their language or someone to whom they have "Translated" their feelings. JM! Sai's breakdown on the phone was just that. And this has made it easier for JM to understand her outburst today. Because he got her words. He just needs to form the sentences.

So I will slightly change my stand. Sai-V communicate, but in two different languages, which the other does not understand.

I said this before. Sai once said, P is herself pushing V towards Sai. Today Sai is doing the same. Unknowingly. But neither is she interested.

I'm not sure if the spoiler around police complaint was only a threat or a real one. Because the threat has already been delivered today. The revenge is left, which should be the result of the revelation.

Contrary to what I believed, the revenge game of V will not be that empty either. Because with all that Sai said today, he will compare P to her (his fav game) and he will try to work around his relationship with P. That is not his revenge from Sai. But a revenge from himself, for loving Sai. A mistake that he believes he committed and he needs to rectify. Though I have a different perspective to that too.

V is furious that she is having an affair with JM and has forgotten that he killed KJ and Sam. And Sai today clearly told JM that she has not for a moment forgotten that he killed them. This clears any confusion that she has forgiven him.

Now apply the same V. Because V-P and JM-Sai are parallels. Both are being associated with criminals. They have cleared Sai's side.

But do you think they are hiding V's version?

This also bring me to something Moor has been saying. There is something connecting JM to Savi and why Sai allowed JM to be close to Savi. I feel that JM got UM to Sai, knowing that she is alone and will not take his help. But much before, either during her pregnancy or post pregnancy, something happened where JM stepped in to save Sai-Savi. And hence she gave him this compensation. It could also be that he helped her to the hospital when she was she was due for delivery.

The real P is coming out now. Iska makeup sasta wala tha. Not waterproof/smudge proof. It is coming off. And the insecure P is coming out.

Are you happy today Sadhika? Renewed hopes with this side of P which has certain vibrations? But today she was not just giving the vibes of an insecure wife who is scared. Her overall demeanour had an evil edge to it. The one which says that she will play dirty if she is at risk of losing something he has so painstakingly acquired.

I'm hoping that either I was able to translate correctly or you have learnt the language of my mind by now 😉

Your review is excellent moor👏

But iam hating the show now🤢

Sai continuous her speech about allegations on women's character no matter what they do. Some of them Gulbya did. Some of them Chavan's and V too did. And today it exploded with V's question and allegations.

On paper maybe Sai is still V's wife. He might not care about pehli biwi, dusri biwi. But not Sai. Sai might have still hold on to their marriage, but she let go of it the moment she found out he has married again. Even as mother of his child, he does not have the rights to ask those questions. For now he is only her patient's baba.

Sai reminding DCP of law👏. He used to use his right as guardian or husband to justify his behavior. Now he has none. He was calling Jagtap as gunda, but that gunda has changed. V is still the same. Today got to see the Sai during PD lunch fiasco where she threatened to file police complaint against him. Keep it up Sai👍🏼.

Aap changed to tum, then changed to aap, then to tum back.

Vinu's reaction to the green juice is so me. Now even P could not see Sai as Vinu's doctor only. Her deeply planted roots and sindoor is in danger. Wants Vinu to win the school race so that 'woh' goes away from their life forever. Tumhari jeet mein, mumma ki jeet. Hmm..Its not just a mother's win, but a wife's too? Who is 'woh'?

Savi is such a foodie. Always eating samosa while showing off to Vinu. These two are still going on with baba adopting plan. Vinu is confident he will get his baba to agree after winning the race. Savi plans to give samosa to whole Nagpur if Vinu wins and buddhi ki baal if V agrees🤣. Sai dont even have money to buy her diwali dress🤔. Sai seriously need to find a job. Vinu got excited thinking they will stay in neighboring rooms and do masti in CN. I really hope their sibling bond stays strong and their innocence remain with the incoming toofan.

So Savi saw police uncle dragging her aai to his car and driving off. UM is funny. If V knows Savi is his daughter, he is back to damaadji. Sai told her off for hurting her again and again. Post leap, Sai felt bad seeing Savi waiting for her baba, but was not shown the same for V. After V questioned Sai about Jagtap at Kankavli, Sai has said that Savi wants to meet her baba but he is questioning her mother's character. UM reasoned V was worried for her. Seeing his love and care for Vinu, an adopted child, and Savi, Sai felt guilty for depriving V of Savi too. But the V Sai saw today has no right to know anything about Savi. Agree with you Sherry, this V will not give a good upbringing to Savi.

The thappad and 'you are nobody to me' really affected V. But still he has no realization of his wrong nor the reality. All of Sai's speech about women's character and society just went over his head. He has not gotten the answer to his questions, and he is getting crazier.

Borrowing Moor's theory, the woman P stood up for Sai in front of the family but the 'wife P' wants to know what happened with Sai. Surprisingly V didnt share anything with P and focused on Vinu's school race preparation. But why did he apply for leave? Its not like he goes to work diligently. He has been going around in suits and vests more than in his uniform. 'Ab mere bete ko main taiyar karungga jeet ke liye, main''. Its like he is in a competition with Sai.

Sai offered chai and Jagtap fell in love with chai. He changed all his gang's drink from alcohol to chai too. Jagtap might deserve a slap or more for all the wrongs he has done, but not for what happened today. It was totally his father's fault. He saw Jagtap enter her house and went to throw kheechad on her at CN. Like Sai said, he shouldve went straight to Sai. Anyways, Sai and Jagtap's equation on both side was clear today. Jagtap is really attached to Savi. Me too really need backstory on this.

V is in track suits and Vinu in jeans. Who is getting training? Vinu is still struggling to walk but will run in 2 days? Atleast make it 2 weeks. Why am I trying to find sense here? Now Vinu wants to win the race so that doctor auntie, him, baba and Savi, will stay together forever. Whereas V wants Vinu to win the race so that Sai leaves their life forever. Added motivation and pressure at the same time. Vinu has bigger expectation from his win and his loss will also be bigger.

'Main aapko aur doctor auntie ko kabhi proud feel nahi karpaunga'

The 2 person who showed and gave confidence on him.

Vinu wanting doctor auntie, him, baba and Savi, the four of them living together does not sit well for me. Just like Savi cutting out P from her family picture. We as audience know these 4 are a family, and P is outsider. But its not like that for them. How could both leave out P when she is Vinu's mumma?

Lovely analysis both of you... @Sherry and Purple...

Sherry... I am totally on board with you .. mentioned the same thing in my review as well. Do have a read.

Purple.. please do visit more and write more. It's a pleasure to read.

About your last question on Vinu skipping P... what's ur take?

Originally posted by: Indira1211

exactly…Virat and Sai are very different in many ways their family backgrounds, their academic levels, their upbringing, etc…in real life these 2 will be completely incompatible and let alone marry ..may not even be attracted to each other.. Only thing similar is they are both hot headed, lose their cool quickly and are extremely proud.. and yes they operate differently ..everything has to be very literal for Virat… so when sai says these abstract things he can’t decipher what she’s said..that’s why there’s no reflection from him..🤷🏻‍♀️

See in reality a Sai Virat marriage will not succeed. The kind of issues they have had
The hurt they have given each other is surreal . Surrogacy and it’s aftermath was a horror .. and with Vinayak’s death ., it was really not meant to be . I will totally accept it if it ends in both of them going separate ways because even after meeting up of 7-8 years there is still bitterness plus the amount of loathing the Chavans have for Sai . It’s better to stay apart as divorced couple ..

Originally posted by: Indira1211

I think Sai shifting to chavan house may happen before vinayaks revelation…there may be a custody case after savis reveal and Virat most probably will win..but Savi is little and won’t stay without her mom..she’ll cry and get sick and then Sai will be forced to live with the chavans because after losing his biological son vinu ..Virat is not going to give up his only biological child whom he wanted for so,long.. and the Chavans will have to tolerate Sai as Savi is their flesh and blood. And then we will see Virat and Sai get closer and maybe Sai will start ŵorking at orphanage again and when vinus revelation happens..we will see patralekha going completely negative as she would have lost everything..today vinu said ..if baba adopts Savi..then he, Savi, baba and doctor Aunty can all live together..he didn’t mention mumma patralekha…so he’ll dump palki as soon as he finds out dr. Aunty is his Aai. 😀👍

good chance of that .. because if virat believes his child is attached to jagtap and spending time with him . It will trigger him.. also the fact that sai has not put her in school .. she’s roaming around writing in trees., all this he will want to keep her with him ., in normal circumstances court directs the father to give proper maintenance to the child but keeps her with mother