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What is the REAL reason Bollywood is underperforming acc. to you?
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Originally posted by: bhshre95
I think it's kind of mix of all the factors and very bad filmmaking. From the last few years the quality of movies coming out of Bollywood has gone down drastically. I used to be so fond of going to theatres and watching movies but I no more feel the same pull. But the mediocre movies still worked in pre pandemic era where audience didn't have any other options.
Post pandemic due to ott platforms people got exposed to a lot of good content that too in comfort of their homes. So some might have become just lazy to go to theatres or the movies just don't attract them enough to go out to the theatres. Also, people do seem to have become careful about how they spend their money. Lot of people lost their jobs and had to go through hardships in the lockdown so they might just want to save their money. Anyway most movies will be released in ott in 2 months or so.
Moreover, the attitude of Bollywood also seems to be a factor. They have taken audience granted for too long and act all entitled. They are like whatever we make people have to see. Also like it or not SSR's death did seem to make some big damage to Bollywood reputation. Lot of people seem disillusioned with the industry as a whole. Above all this Bollywood just refuses to improve. Instead of improving their scripts, content they are busy looking for other reasons like intolerance or whatever. Look at how kjo behaves, now he seems to openly flaunt that he supports star kids. We are being forced down with more star kids who can't act to save their lives. If they can do whatever they want so can audience. Whether bycotts have proper reasons or not it is still their right to watch a movie or not.
The filmakers also need to make more low budget movies. More then half the budget seems to be eaten up by these big stars. Give less to stars and concentrate on writing rather. Now people seem to be caring more about good content than who is starring in the movie. If WOM is good films do work. This bycott, intolerance blah blah are just reasons for Bollywood to hide their mediocrity. They just need to make original good and interesting movies instead of trying to copy a certain formula.
I agree with all your reasons. Bollywood needs to get its act together and come up with good content. Regional cinema is one-upping Hindi cinema with all the localized content and innovative subjects. But the boycott gang is using the discontent of the audience to topple the old order and come up with a new order complaint to the ruling party. People like Sid M and Kartik Aaryan are part of the new order since they are perceived as having no connections to the old Bollywood families and have no political leanings towards the opposition. They are never vocal or have the guts or inclination to stand up and make statements. They are career actors who focus on their craft and nothing else.Connect it also with the arrests of those influential Bollywood celebraties who "seem" to be partial to the opposition. Which is why Ayan and the Brahmastra crew are bending over backwards to portray the film as patriotic and depicting ancient Indian culture. The message has been received loud and clear.
Because during 90s and 2000s outsiders were actually not sidelined like they are now. Ab toh BW is a huge close knitted family where big production houses only give good movies to StarKids. This favouritism was present back in 2000s , 90s as well, lekin outsiders like SRK, Akshay were given equal chances & big banner movies unlike now which are reserved only for Nepo kids. 🤡Originally posted by: atominis
Why no one cried nepotism when industry kids like Aamir, Raveena, Salman, Kajol, Sunny, Bobby Deol, Karishma, Sanjay Kapoor, Sanjay Dutt, Kareena, Abhishek, Rani, Kunal Kapoor, Saif, Pratibha Sinha, Puru Rajkumar, Fardeen, Farha, Tabu, Twinkle, Rinke Khanna, Esha Deol, Tusshar Kapoor, Ranbir Kapoor, Sonam Kapoor, Ajay Devgan, Tanisha, Uday Chopra, Vivek Oberoi, Shraddha Kapoor etc flooded the industry in 80s, 90s and 2000s?
Why no cries against nepotism earlier when Kapoor Khandaan men were in every second film?
Even music was ruled by families like Burmans, Mangeshkars, sons of Kishore and Rafi also came out there.
And why no talk of nepotism when South films have all nepo kids like Ram Charan, Prabhas, Rana, Allu Arjun etc? Which outsider is there in those hit South films?
Originally posted by: BhataktiJawani
Because during 90s and 2000s outsiders were actually not sidelined like they are now. Ab toh BW is a huge close knitted family where big production houses only give good movies to StarKids. This favouritism was present back in 2000s , 90s as well, lekin outsiders like SRK, Akshay were given equal chances & big banner movies unlike now which are reserved only for Nepo kids. 🤡
Q.1. How many big projects have been snatched from Outsiders? Give solid proof by sharing if any maker confessed themselves about this.
Q.2. Name any 2 big production house giving good movies to starkids with film names?
Just tell me one single actress who was given opportunities the way Alia was given, ever since her Debut? Absolutely NONE. During 2000s also there were Nepo kids & despite being Kareena fan i can’t deny she was favoured a lot like Alia , but Atleast there were actresses like Deepika,Priyanka, Preity, Aishwarya etc who were equally given opportunities to star in big budget movies & they ended up becoming big stars. Ab toh there is literally no one except for Alia who can compete with her for the top spot. That’s why I said Nepotism worsened with Alia & will go even worse with the likes of Jhanvi, Sara, Ananya and many more star kids who are waiting to debut next. There is a reason why BW isn’t same anymore & lost it’s originality and is at it’s worst.true it’s tough to get a break without connections and the casting couch but you can’t blame them on wanting to be stars and not all star kids are bad. Plus it’s up to the audiences on who they want to see or not , and if others want to waste their time n give them chances we’ll it’s their money as an audience it’s our choice to see them or not.
Plus, those stars who were outsiders naturally their kids will be star kids, but it’s in every profession and it’s human nature to want your kids to carry on your legacy.
Originally posted by: BhataktiJawani
Just tell me one single actress who was given opportunities the way Alia was given, ever since her Debut? Absolutely NONE. During 2000s also there were Nepo kids & despite being Kareena fan i can’t deny she was favoured a lot like Alia , but Atleast there were actresses like Deepika,Priyanka, Preity, Aishwarya etc who were equally given opportunities to star in big budget movies & they ended up becoming big stars. Ab toh there is literally no one except for Alia who can compete with her for the top spot. That’s why I said Nepotism worsened with Alia & will go even worse with the likes of Jhanvi, Sara, Ananya and many more star kids who are waiting to debut next. There is a reason why BW isn’t same anymore & lost it’s originality and is at it’s worst.
Alia has done 14 films, 13 theatre release, 1 OTT. This is from 2012-2022. 10 Years.
Bhumi Pednekar has done 10 films from 2015-22. 7 Years.
Ajeed logic hai Alia ko blame karne ka, where is she snatching films, uski koi big budget ki solo lead mein aayi hai nahi film?
A part of the Audience like me are too lazy to go to cinema halls... We prefer OTT
Originally posted by: hasini009
BW forum opened my eyes. it’s not the above reasons BW is failing. its certain section of moviegoers who stopped watching Khans movies all of a sudden. How dare they?
Khans failure = BW failure
And also destruction of the country 😛
Originally posted by: Guddu.Pandit
Alia has done 14 films, 13 theatre release, 1 OTT. This is from 2012-2022. 10 Years.
Bhumi Pednekar has done 10 films from 2015-22. 7 Years.
Ajeed logic hai Alia ko blame karne ka, where is she snatching films, uski koi big budget ki solo lead mein aayi hai nahi film?
Tapsee makes more films than Alia also lol
Originally posted by: atominis
Why no one cried nepotism when industry kids like Aamir, Raveena, Salman, Kajol, Sunny, Bobby Deol, Karishma, Sanjay Kapoor, Sanjay Dutt, Kareena, Abhishek, Rani, Kunal Kapoor, Saif, Pratibha Sinha, Puru Rajkumar, Fardeen, Farha, Tabu, Twinkle, Rinke Khanna, Esha Deol, Tusshar Kapoor, Ranbir Kapoor, Sonam Kapoor, Ajay Devgan, Tanisha, Uday Chopra, Vivek Oberoi, Shraddha Kapoor etc flooded the industry in 80s, 90s and 2000s?
Why no cries against nepotism earlier when Kapoor Khandaan men were in every second film?
Even music was ruled by families like Burmans, Mangeshkars, sons of Kishore and Rafi also came out there.
And why no talk of nepotism when South films have all nepo kids like Ram Charan, Prabhas, Rana, Allu Arjun etc? Which outsider is there in those hit South films?
No one cried Nepotism back then because:
1. A lot of general audience had zero idea about nepotism and how prevalent it was in Bollywood.
2. Social media was non-existent back then so u cant pinpoint every statement these stars used to make or hold them responsible for lying or manipulating the audience.
3. KJo! he is single-handedly responsible in making this whole nepotism debate relevant. His constant shoving down Alia down audience's throats is majorly responsible why everyone cries about nepotism. She might have done less movies than others and please dont compare her to Bhumi or Taapsee's filmography. Alia literally either gets the best scripts for female characters or the scripts are tweaked keeping in mind her personality and bubbly face.
4. it absolutely does not help that these nepo kids still act arrogant and take it all for granted. Arey bhai, be thankful for your life and stop taking audience for granted. Sirf PR and pap culture wont work anymore. public ko star kids mein interest hain which is true but they will also not tolerate these star kids if they dont deliver.
On topic:
I agree with what most of the members have pointed out. Its definitely a mix of all those factors but I am just surprised that the industry is still clueless on what exactly audiences want 😕
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