Thoughts on this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixcNKeszA9g

Do you agree with the philosophy which is espoused here?

Originally posted by: mintyblue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixcNKeszA9g

Do you agree with the philosophy which is espoused here?

It was an uncomfortable scene to say the least. I have wanted them to share the screen for the longest time but definitely didn't want anything like this

I don't agree with that philosophy at all. Life is too short to be hung up on one person, especially if they were with you at one point but aren't anymore. Even more so if they bring their plus one to YOUR show, fully knowing that you're still into them.😆

Originally posted by: SmittenKitten

I don't agree with that philosophy at all. Life is too short to be hung up on one person, especially if they were with you at one point but aren't anymore. Even more so if they bring their plus one to YOUR show, fully knowing that you're still into them.😆

but did she actually know. I mean, he had clearly hurt her too much to walk out of the relationship.

Originally posted by: Monstuholic

but did she actually know. I mean, he had clearly hurt her too much to walk out of the relationship.

did they show us what led up to their split? I'm not sure. Of course she didn't owe him anything cuz they were already divorced but I vehemently disagree with the philosophy that one sided love can last you a lifetime... 😆 which is the philosophy minty is asking about, I think.

Well well well.... it's not necessary that you would fall in love with someone who would love you back. That doesn't mean you would stop loving that person because of that.

If that happens then you were never in love in the first place. Should that person then move on and find new love? Maybe or maybe not. It's his/her choice. It's tough to fall in love again and again with different people.

People just find compatible partners to settle down in life and have a family of their own. If someone doesn't want to do that, it's their choice. Apart from that if someone doesn't want to move on, I don't see any harm.

Originally posted by: AwaamKiJaan

Well well well.... it's not necessary that you would fall in love with someone who would love you back. That doesn't mean you would stop loving that person because of that.

If that happens then you were never in love in the first place. Should that person then move on and find new love? Maybe or maybe not. It's his/her choice. It's tough to fall in love again and again with different people.

People just find compatible partners to settle down in life and have a family of their own. If someone doesn't want to do that, it's their choice. Apart from that if someone doesn't want to move on, I don't see any harm.

@bold: Are you saying that moving on from a past lover means that you never loved them to begin with?

It's not necessary that someone who you love loves you back. It happens a lot, not only in romantic love but even family members! In this case, he is the one still keeping the flame of their past relationship burning even though she has moved on ... and that's still acceptable to an extent cuz you can't control certain things. But the driving force behind unrequited love is usually wanting the love returned to the same level and intimacy, at least in real. Anyone who suggests that they find happiness in sacrificing their life to unrequited love is BS-ing, which is fine in a cheesy movie but not in real life.

Spending your entire life as an aashiq on the outside longingly looking at your object of affection from afar ...even though your object of affection is living their own life and in love with someone else, is self-destructive. Not wanting to move on from anything in general, not just love, is a problem cuz resilience is important in life. We have to deal with deaths of our loved ones and far worse things than someone not loving you back, so being able to dust things off your shoulders and march on with your chin up is extremely important, in my opinion.

Originally posted by: SmittenKitten

@bold: Are you saying that moving on from a past lover means that you never loved them to begin with?

It's not necessary that someone who you love loves you back. It happens a lot, not only in romantic love but even family members! In this case, he is the one still keeping the flame of their past relationship burning even though she has moved on ... and that's still acceptable to an extent cuz you can't control certain things. But the driving force behind unrequited love is usually wanting the love returned to the same level and intimacy, at least in real. Anyone who suggests that they find happiness in sacrificing their life to unrequited love is BS-ing, which is fine in a cheesy movie but not in real life.

Spending your entire life as an aashiq on the outside longingly looking at your object of affection from afar ...even though your object of affection is living their own life and in love with someone else, is self-destructive. Not wanting to move on from anything in general, not just love, is a problem cuz resilience is important in life. We have to deal with deaths of our loved ones and far worse things than someone not loving you back, so being able to dust things off your shoulders and march on with your chin up is extremely important, in my opinion.

@bold, no I didn't say that.

Moving on doesn't mean you weren't in love. What I said was if you stop loving someone because they aren't love with you, THEN you weren't in love with that person either. Because that's just selfishness. Feelings don't die so easily. It takes time and effort.

But if someone doesn't want to move on, I don't see anything wrong with it. Because things are not in our control all time. Obviously that doesn't mean one has to destroy his/her life over that person. But there's more to life then just dating, being in relationships and getting married.

If someone doesn't want to get married or have a family because he's still in love with his ex, that's his choice. He's not destroying his or his ex life by this decision.

We might move on from the death of our loved ones, but our love for them never dies even if they are. When we can't even forget the dead, its weird to expect someone to forget the living.

As for giving sacrifices for your unrequited love, yes it's painful whether in movies or real life. But nobody said love is painless and would always give you happiness.

Originally posted by: AwaamKiJaan

@bold, no I didn't say that.

Moving on doesn't mean you weren't in love. What I said was if you stop loving someone because they aren't love with you, THEN you weren't in love with that person either. Because that's just selfishness. Feelings don't die so easily. It takes time and effort.

But if someone doesn't want to move on, I don't see anything wrong with it. Because things are not in our control all time. Obviously that doesn't mean one has to destroy his/her life over that person. But there's more to life then just dating, being in relationships and getting married.

If someone doesn't want to get married or have a family because he's still in love with his ex, that's his choice. He's not destroying his or his ex life by this decision.

We might move on from the death of our loved ones, but our love for them never dies even if they are. When we can't even forget the dead, its weird to expect someone to forget the living.

As for giving sacrifices for your unrequited love, yes it's painful whether in movies or real life. But nobody said love is painless and would always give you happiness.

Okay ... we clearly differ on many things here beginning with how we define love. To me, love is a sum total of your actions towards someone that stems from your positive feelings towards them, not just an abstract concept that you obsesses over. In that sense, just because you stop pursuing someone after they turn you down doesn't mean that you stopped loving them. It just means that you respect the other person's decision and would rather channel your energy to your own self and build your own life instead of obsessing over a lost cause. But yeah, if someone starts doing crazy things just to spite the person who turned them down, that's not love, that's just entitlement and resentment, the kind that leads to horrific incidents like acid attacks or worse.

But coming back to the original topic, I was talking about SRK claiming to find his unrequited ishq very powerful and kinda glorifying it even though Ash is not interested in rekindling their relationship. I find that extremely toxic cuz we only have one life to live. I'm a believer of living your life the best way possible and martyrdom in unrequited love (and taking pleasure in that, if you go with SRK here) is not a part of that. Obsessing over a lost cause is no way to spend your precious time while you're here.

This entire movie was a shit show. Trying wayyyy hard to be deep and profound but it was lame as hell