Virat and Pakhi are not in an emotional affair - a different view - Page 3

She was manipulating him, but I do not think he forgot it by the time he grabbed her hand. I think he was completely broken down and desperate at that point. He could do nothing other than pray, as he said, and beg others to do the same, because he was helpless. I think that is why he said "if you really want to do something for me", knowing that PK would not do anything for Sai voluntarily, and also told her to pray with "pure/true heart", which signalled to me that he has not forgotten or is not unaware of the hate PK has in her heart for Sai and her bad intentions towards them.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Its past the point ehere its "unknowingly". He needs to BAN pp from his life and from his bedroom. Its definitely not impossible. For example karishma is effectively a stranger to Virat from what we've been shown. Theres no connection/interaction beyond BIL-SIL. So why cant Virat do the same with PP?! And he should be consciously avoiding pp after everything she has said/done. But here he is hell-bent on letting her interfere more n more in his life.

Word 👏. Sai clearly told him she doesn't like him talking to her and he still continues.

If he knows that PP isnt voluntarily going to pray for Sai then why bother. Why not have him go breakdown to shivani/Ashwini/sunny instead. If he sensed PPs intentions and gave a disgusted reaction and told her to leave, then why not leave and break down in private?!

I wanted to see Virat in solitude, breaking down, reminiscing about him-Sai but here he has had NOT one flashback of Sai-his moments or what he said/did. Rather he had a FB of green tea conversation with PP not Sai bringing him green tea pyaar seh.

So all his energies are only focused on himself- his pain, his guilt, his feelings, people misunderstanding him. But not once has it occurred to him to consider what drives Sai to behave the way rhat she does. For all his talk about Sai not understanding him, he is exactly the same. He doesn't understand her either.

Originally posted by: Tiptione

She was manipulating him, but I do not think he forgot it by the time he grabbed her hand. I think he was completely broken down and desperate at that point. He could do nothing other than pray, as he said, and beg others to do the same, because he was helpless. I think that is why he said "if you really want to do something for me", knowing that PK would not do anything for Sai voluntarily, and also told her to pray with "pure/true heart", which signalled to me that he has not forgotten or is not unaware of the hate PK has in her heart for Sai and her bad intentions towards them.

My problem is did he forget she doesn't care about Sai, she speaks shit about her at the every opportunity she gets, she caused the AJ kaand. Why would he even be talking to her about Sai🤔. Aren't there anyone else concerned for Sai or is it because she stokes his ego and says things which he likes to hear like it wasn't your fault, it was Sais mistake etc etc. And finally did she even pray for Sai ? No, she just stood there like a lamp post and immediately turned the tables when samrat arrived.

As a brother is it even moral to hide from his brother what his wife is and trying to say he was just asking her to pray for Sai. What about before that scene, he clearly knows she was coming onto him and so he got mad. These are the things which make me mad at Virat, that he keeps Pakhi above everyone, be it his wife or brother

Maybe not now but they were having an emotional affair back in GC days after Patralekha was married. It was evident from their dialogues back then and how often they used to talk.

Truth is, we can't just blame Patralekha, virat too shares the blame in this even if it's less than Patralekha. He's in love with Sai now but he was absolutely fixated on Patralekha, fully involved with her emotionally even after she got married.

IIRC @asmi_joya wrote Patralekha and Virat's conversation dialogues under some post from GC days before sai-virat's marriage and it's was soo evident they were emotionally involved.

In fact, if there were no Sai in the picture I'm sure Virat would've married Patralekha and they would've had kids by now 🤣

Let me tell how it looks to me. I am yet to arrive at a conclusion that he has an emotional affair with Pakhi. It can come across like that to many of course. Like many in this thread have pointed out, I have issues with Virat’s actions more than anything else.

The way I see it, Virat and Pakhi are similar in many ways. Pakhi can make use of Virat’s position but what I could see is that Pakhi actually wanted to comfort Virat. She did use the opportunity to badmouth Sai and poison his mind but she was also trying to be there for him in a way when he looked broken.

Virat in a way makes use of Pakhi too. He has certain expectations from Pakhi since he knows only that is morally and ethically right. He will push her away if she tries to get close to him as anyone other than a friend or family member but he would also accept the comfort or support that she lends when he wants. I have always tried to understand him and his position. Even now I would empathise with him if he comes out of his “ME,MYSELF” mode.

Every time we decipher something through his actions and what I think at the moment is things has to go as per his terms and conditions. When he had proposed a deal marriage, Sai shouldn’t raise an issue about his and Pakhi’s friendship (in the initial days), she shouldn’t act possessive since she had agreed that she wouldn’t act as his wife. Later, when his feelings towards Sai started to change, when he is making a move, when he wants to change it all, which he shows through some of his actions, Sai should also change. She should also accept their marriage and reciprocate his feelings. He tells her he doesn’t have anything with Pakhi, Sai has to just accept it. He used to tell Pakhi that Sai was just his responsibility and he expected that Pakhi believes him. Later, he told Pakhi that he likes Sai and asked her to stop thinking whatever she was thinking, he expected Pakhi to accept it. When Pakhi tries to express what she fees for him, and since he doesn’t approve it, he will push her away. But if the same Pakhi extends her support to him, as long as there is no name that she would give to it, he will be okay in accepting her support. It could be that he had his own version of their relationship and so he would take liberty on Pakhi from his side. He actually takes liberty on Pakhi that he doesn’t take with anyone else since she has given him that kind of a liberty.

What should a person in Virat’s position do? Even if Pakhi is willing to offer him support, knowing her intentions, he should keep her at bay but since he needs it, he takes it, he uses it. I am sorry to say that in a way he is playing with Pakhi’s emotions too. He is letting her on by accepting her support. It again should be as per his terms and conditions. It is like saying Pakhi, I need you but don’t do this because you have feelings for me or don’t do this as a lover since I won’t be able to accept your proposal or see you as my lover since you are my brother’s wife and I am also married.

Pakhi offered him support every time by attacking Sai and he let her lead his war against Sai. She questions Sai, humiliates her and he lets her to lead his war against Sai. She understands him the way he wants to be understood by the people whom he loves (His mom, Samrat and Devi Tai) and comforts him and so he accepts those even if it means that she is doing it not as a friend. When a person accepts this kind of an emotional comfort even after knowing what’s running in her head, it looks even more horrible. I would say that he is not even considerate about Pakhi’s emotions in al this too. It is all about him ultimately. Whether Pakhi is right or wrong, he is not doing any good to Pakhi too. He is obviously hurting his brother too in the process.

Originally posted by: Nja91

If he knows that PP isnt voluntarily going to pray for Sai then why bother. Why not have him go breakdown to shivani/Ashwini/sunny instead. If he sensed PPs intentions and gave a disgusted reaction and told her to leave, then why not leave and break down in private?!

I wanted to see Virat in solitude, breaking down, reminiscing about him-Sai but here he has had NOT one flashback of Sai-his moments or what he said/did. Rather he had a FB of green tea conversation with PP not Sai bringing him green tea pyaar seh.

So all his energies are only focused on himself- his pain, his guilt, his feelings, people misunderstanding him. But not once has it occurred to him to consider what drives Sai to behave the way rhat she does. For all his talk about Sai not understanding him, he is exactly the same. He doesn't understand her either.

@ Bold: Because that represented the circumstances where he was at during that specific point of time. He had already/was already breaking down by the end, PK was there for it and in his desperation he does not care who it is, he wants everyone to pray for Sai because that's all he can do to help. He is looking for reassurance from anywhere and everywhere that she will be ok. It would not have mattered if Japtap was there, I think he would have asked him the same.

I agree that it would have been much better to see him retrospect and break down in solitude, but it goes back to the point that PK always is the one going to him and he is so emotionally stunted and vulnerable (at this point) that she can push his buttons and then he falls into the situations without having the awareness or maturity to know how it looks and impacts on others. He is still very selfish in his thoughts right now, it is all about people misunderstanding him but I am not optimistic there will be an retrospection of his actions going off KD.

Originally posted by: laksh

Let me tell how it looks to me. I am yet to arrive at a conclusion that he has an emotional affair with Pakhi. It can come across like that to many of course. Like many in this thread have pointed out, I have issues with Virat’s actions more than anything else.

The way I see it, Virat and Pakhi are similar in many ways. Pakhi can make use of Virat’s position but what I could see is that Pakhi actually wanted to comfort Virat. She did use the opportunity to badmouth Sai and poison his mind but she was also trying to be there for him in a way when he looked broken.

I was very confused by PK together and her expressions and dialogue, but I think I came to the same conclusion as you. She definitely tried to make him focus on Sai not being his world, but at the same time I think she cared enough to see that he was breaking down completely and was trying to encourage him, if nothing else trying to distract him from his pain even by wrong intentions.

Virat in a way makes use of Pakhi too. He has certain expectations from Pakhi since he knows only that is morally and ethically right. He will push her away if she tries to get close to him as anyone other than a friend or family member but he would also accept the comfort or support that she lends when he wants. I have always tried to understand him and his position. Even now I would empathise with him if he comes out of his “ME,MYSELF” mode.

Every time we decipher something through his actions and what I think at the moment is things has to go as per his terms and conditions. When he had proposed a deal marriage, Sai shouldn’t raise an issue about his and Pakhi’s friendship (in the initial days), she shouldn’t act possessive since she had agreed that she wouldn’t act as his wife. Later, when his feelings towards Sai started to change, when he is making a move, when he wants to change it all, which he shows through some of his actions, Sai should also change. She should also accept their marriage and reciprocate his feelings. He tells her he doesn’t have anything with Pakhi, Sai has to just accept it. He used to tell Pakhi that Sai was just his responsibility and he expected that Pakhi believes him. Later, he told Pakhi that he likes Sai and asked her to stop thinking whatever she was thinking, he expected Pakhi to accept it. When Pakhi tries to express what she fees for him, and since he doesn’t approve it, he will push her away. But if the same Pakhi extends her support to him, as long as there is no name that she would give to it, he will be okay in accepting her support. It could be that he had his own version of their relationship and so he would take liberty on Pakhi from his side. He actually takes liberty on Pakhi that he doesn’t take with anyone else since she has given him that kind of a liberty.

This is exactly what I think is Virat's biggest character flaw. He assumes everyone moves on as he does and the minute something is out of his mind, he cannot fathom how it can be in anyone elses. He is emotionally very immature in this respect and really does not understand people. I think this is part of the reason he does not understand why it is bad for everyone to see him and PK hold hands or remain close, he foolishly assumes because there is only something platonic for him, then everyone will accept the same and ignore the past.

What should a person in Virat’s position do? Even if Pakhi is willing to offer him support, knowing her intentions, he should keep her at bay but since he needs it, he takes it, he uses it. I am sorry to say that in a way he is playing with Pakhi’s emotions too. He is letting her on by accepting her support. It again should be as per his terms and conditions. It is like saying Pakhi, I need you but don’t do this because you have feelings for me or don’t do this as a lover since I won’t be able to accept your proposal or see you as my lover since you are my brother’s wife and I am also married.

I wonder this too, but I really do not think he is smart, aware enough or emotionally intelligent enough to play with PK's emotions. He may well be doing it, but I do not think he realises he is doing it such is his black and white thinking, which is another big character flaw of his. I also do wonder whether one of the reasons he has these conversations with PK is because she is (other than Sunny who is there infrequently) the only one who actually knows how he feels about Sai. She is the only one in the family he has actually fully told his feelings to, even if it was for the purposes of putting her in her place and making her go away. Even when he has broken down before, he has not expressed his true feelings to Aai, Devi, Samrat, etc. The only other person is Sunny, who was not there today. Then when PK pushes his buttons like she did today about there being other people other than Sai, it leads him down a path or opening himself up. He loses senses and track of who he is speaking to and what PK has in her mind for Sai and just releases everything that is bottled inside of him.

Pakhi offered him support every time by attacking Sai and he let her lead his war against Sai. She questions Sai, humiliates her and he lets her to lead his war against Sai. She understands him the way he wants to be understood by the people whom he loves (His mom, Samrat and Devi Tai) and comforts him and so he accepts those even if it means that she is doing it not as a friend. When a person accepts this kind of an emotional comfort even after knowing what’s running in her head, it looks even more horrible. I would say that he is not even considerate about Pakhi’s emotions in al this too. It is all about him ultimately. Whether Pakhi is right or wrong, he is not doing any good to Pakhi too. He is obviously hurting his brother too in the process.

Very apt analysis, Laksh and very nicely written. I agree with a lot of what you have said and I have some views in red.

I think virats big problem is what he himself accuses Sai of not doing "reading between the lines". In his matter, he wants everyone including Sai/Samrat to just take his word as the final view ignoring his actions/pp's behavior and actions that scream the opposite. He wants them to not read between libes and just take his word. But when it comes to his feelings for Sai he wants the opposite, he wants Sai to read his unsaid emotiins etc. But Virat himself does neither. He neither acknowledges Sai when she clearly states that she is uncomfortable with pp nor does he see her fear/hurt,/insecurities in her eyes/expression and perceive the craving/the care/the love behind how she does things for him as a wife. Even though they had a fight, she haq jataofied and took care of him. She behaved like a wife. She bore his tantrums but made sure she took care of him.

Virat thinks that just coz he has publicly declared that he sees pp just as "friend" thats the end of that. But its not. It was appalling how people in CN have let go of the real issue. If pp-virat had this past pre-marriage but are now respectively committed to their own spouses then both of them are expected to maintain a certain extra level of caution in interaction.

No one questioned why PP agreed to marriage if she loved virat, especially after realizing that the groom was his brother.

No one is questioning why she has not maintained a distance from Virat especially given their "past". If 2 people who are each other's exes are made to share space , shouldn't they be extra cautious of their boundaries...

No one in CN has felt guilty about shoving pp-virat together despite Sai trying to show them the truth that they outright denied.

Virat knows that Sai/Samrat are not comfortable with his past with pp and yet he allows PP to speak in between him-Sai. How hard is it to ask her to leave before contuining his argument with Sai. Does fighting/having a disagreement with his wife mean that he will allow his ex to interfere? will such behavior not amount to Sai feeling like he was lying about not having any commitment to pp. Because we only allow those close to us to speak about private matters. What is more private than virats conversation with his wife in their private space- their bedroom. But pp waltzes into that space as if she has full right to be there. People say she washed dirty linen in public.

Sai on the other hand until recently when she told Samrat/pulkit some of her feelings has been bottling everything within her. She has not allowed anyone to speak between Virat n her. Even when she told pulkit/samrat she didnt allow them any chance to actually be present between her and virat in their bedroom. And in every situation where she raised pp-virat publicly it was done when she was pushed to a corner and provoked and it was done in a way where she took care to NEVER suggest they were in a physical relationship because she knew Virat wouldn't cross physical boundaries at least. She merely spoke the truth about pp taking undue interest in virat and virat allowing it ....

Samrat noticed when Virat called pp as patralekha and taunted him saying isnt she "pakhi" to you- that was an indication that he saw how "informal" they were. It was a sign for virat to see Samrats insecurities and atleast for namesake resign to calling pp as patralekha or as vahini! It may be kinda superficial but it creates that boundary when you refer to someone by their full name or by the relationship- as vahini/bhabhi etc.... By not doing so, hes diluting his own words about "moving on"/ not having any feelings towards pp more than friend/bhai ki biwi.

Virat was adamant about hiding his past with pp for the longest time which was a big mistake. He probably did so because from his side there wasn't much to talk about but this adamancy to address it n sort it out has made it seem bigger than it is. Because Sai till date has no idea of this 2 day affair. She thinks she is in the way of some epic love story. Its shocking that Virat has never considered or been sensitive to how Sai would feel to be with someone for whom she is not his first choice or priority. Sai forever has to resign herself to the knowledge that her husband had romantic feelings for another woman before her - and not just a crush/infatuation but something real n serious enough where he supposedly wanted to marry her n gave her a promise to never give her place in his heart to anyone else. Its easy for him coz Sais past is a clean slate. But if Sai had a boyfriend before him whom she loved so much that she had plans to marry him etc, would Virat be as cool as he expects Sai to be? Would his wife's past not affect him even a little bit ?

Its ridiculous that he expects Sai to stop raising pp just because he is uncomfortable discussing the issue.

An honest review is that virat is for sure not involve with pakhi emotionally or physically,, but the problem is that if he can give leeway to pakhi for whatever reason then why he can’t give those leeway to sai when he loves her,, loving someone doesn’t come with term nd condition,, how can he join pakhi to insult sai that too infront of whole family, its ok to be angry with your love but insulting her for every time is not excusable,, have arguments with her one on one but not let others to walk over her specially his ex pakhi but nahhh virat the lover boy doesn’t not understand this basic things when you love someone you respect them also no matter how angry or upset you are,,, and here virat lacks,,, he is such a good man that he can respect pakhi but not sai,, this act of virat is questionable and he is answerable to sai nd to us also,, we want to know from writer what were they thinking when they wrote his character,, even if it is fiction then also i hv not seen a character who is very much in love is insulting his or her love without a big reason,,,,, this happens only then when there is huge misunderstanding between FL nd ML like ekta’s or gul’s show but here I don’t think there is that much misunderstanding between them Specially from virat’s side, sai misunderstand him but virat has nothing like that,, I only know that he wanted to propose her nd arrange something for her which she rejected harshly nd shouted also but that is not misunderstanding,, he knows it was sai who stopped his transfer again there is no misunderstanding then that means he is only hurt nd angry then how come just in his anger he can insult his love nd cry a bucket when she is on death bed,, here the writer is confused in writing his character properly they show him as an IPS officer but then they show him that dumb who can be manipulated by a simple girl pakhi not once but countless times,, how is this possible,,, being an IPS he is not able to stop pakhi from harassing him,, he just can’t stop pakhi from interfering in his life when he knows her intentions, he is not that child who doesn’t understand pakhi’s intentions,, it is more than 300 episodes nd still he is unable to draw boundaries with her when time to time sai was very clear nd vocal about this then how come he never doubts pakhi,, now tell me what kind of behaviour is this from virat side?? No I will not buy this that he is so innocent that he is unable to understand patralekha nd gets manipulated by her coz here we are talking about an IPS officer,, either they change his profession or make him sharp,, the innocent things are not going to work here,, even devi tai being mentally not able can see through pakhi but our IPS virat chavan can not... ironically!!

Here the problem is not with virat he is very clear about his feelings he has moved on from pakhi nd want to have relation with sai but the problem is for the partner/spouse who will live with such guy who always always in any situations will support his ex over his wife,, the problem is for sai either she has to put virat so high where his actions of insulting her while siding with pakhi nd supporting pakhi no matter what does not affect her relationship with virat Otherwise she is going to have emotional abuse everytime being in relation with virat,,, I think this is the massage writer wants to convey us... what if virat sides with pakhi but he loves sai,, what if virat holds pakhi’s hand in his vulnerable state but he loves sai, what if he can not stop pakhi from interfering in their life but he loves sai,, what if pakhi being ex has more rights on virat then his wife but he loves sai,, what if he never let down pakhi’s reputation but can put his wife as a lier infront of his family’s but he loves sai

One more thing,,no matter how angry sai can be with virat but she will never allow anyone to walk over him or insult him but he is such a bachcha that he can be easily manipulated by a girl(ex) nd joins hand with her(ex) to taunt his wife bcoz of course his wife didn’t respond back his feelings as per his wish and so he is so angry that he wished her to be alone without family nd have hardships,,,

To me it looks like that a girl(sai) said NO to a man(virat)’s love and he is very hurt by her rejection that he is unable to take NO so he is trying every possible way to hurt her emotionally or mentally just to satisfy his ego,, i know it is not like that but now a days the writer’s writing sketch of virat’s character is something like that