Surprising - Page 3

I hope to God there is no whitewashing of the great sanskari bahu (who gets away with being rude to people) Patralekha. The way Sai is stuck on her deal, I am stuck on the kumaata dialogue - if they could whitewash Bhavani with that dialogue, they can do anything. Just waiting for dhulai of KBA now. Hope CN people understand the reality of their susheel bahu. I also hope they don’t drag the week.

A word of appreciation for Adish - even for minute things the way his expression changes, the way he reacts - absolutely bang on. He is a fantastic actor and deserves a lot more screen space than he gets. He was so good in Saturday’s episode also.

Niraja

I agree I am harsh a bit towards Samrat.

Since childhood my father always infused so much feel and devotion towards country. He never let us miss any Independence Day function for any pretence.

So my aversion to Samrat starts from that point..his preference to chose his reasons over service to country shows him in poor light. So this itself rules out his chances to get compared with Sai Joshi and Virat Chavan also.

Then his negligence towards his mother unthinkable and unpardonable. Sai Joshi treats every elderly lady as a mother figure. Usha,Aswini,Manasi and even Bhavani.. she cares for every one of them.

Samrat needed a Sai to remind him about his mother’s pain.

Yes Virat did not do anything for Devi but he still stayed with her as her brother. Samrat did not do so.

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Niraja

I agree I am harsh a bit towards Samrat.

Since childhood my father always infused so much feel and devotion towards country. He never let us miss any Independence Day function for any pretence.

So my aversion to Samrat starts from that point..his preference to chose his reasons over service to country shows him in poor light. So this itself rules out his chances to get compared with Sai Joshi and Virat Chavan also.

Then his negligence towards his mother unthinkable and unpardonable. Sai Joshi treats every elderly lady as a mother figure. Usha,Aswini,Manasi and even Bhavani.. she cares for every one of them.

Samrat needed a Sai to remind him about his mother’s pain.

Yes Virat did not do anything for Devi but he still stayed with her as her brother. Samrat did not do so.

My problem with Samrat isn't necessarily that he left. More than Pakhi, he felt betrayed by Virat, who was perhaps the most important person in his life. He was overclouded by emotions and so acted impulsively. Virat is similar in this regard, so I can't blame either one. But, what bothers me, is that it has now been over a year later, and he still has not snapped out of it. He has had more than enough time to think through his actions and ponder their consequences. Even today, Sai's words about Mansi were not enough to melt him. All of this just makes it seem as if he does not have much regard for his family. All in all, I can understand the immense hurt he feels towards Virat.... but I cannot really seem to be able to justify the fact that he chose to stay away and not return or even try to solve the problem.

Originally posted by: tptwi

I am struggling to understand what exactly you mean by this, Asmi. When has Virat been ready to give Sai up? Their relationship has suffered tumult after tumult, and yet they are still together. I attribute this to Sai forgiving him for his kaands, but each time, he has fought extremely hard to keep her with him. He has begged for forgiveness, done everything he could in his power to make her stay. Every time she has tried to leave the house, he has stopped her....

The reason he will retreat now is entirely different, as he feels as though he has no place in her life left... before, there were doubts about their relationship as husband and wife, but now he feels as though she does not want him even as someone who takes care of her as a zimidari. And even so, he won't let go of her. He will still be there for her whenever she needs him. Will wait to comment on this further as the track plays out...

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Pasting this take I wrote in another post about him wanting to leave today

While I agree that Virat could have attempted to convince Samrat in many ways, I don't think any of them would have worked. Samrat is too angry with him right now. I felt for Virat as he was trying to leave with Sai. Putting side the fact that he did not want Sai to be insulted (which I saw as his main motive), I saw him as an entirely helpless man. Samrat is one of the two most important people in his life, and he was refusing to even recognize Virat. Virat had been waiting an entire year for this moment. Under such pain of rejection, a person can act in one of two ways. Either they can shut down or they can try to convince the other out of desperation. Virat acted in the first way. Once he saw that Samrat was at least willing to accept his identity, he tried being more forceful, but Samrat was not having it. I think he knew that Sai would be able to get through to him, which is why he was standing there and smiling in awe of her.

If Sai had not stayed back and convinced Samrat, I can almost guarantee that this would not have been the end of it. Virat would have come back and tried to find a way to stop him.

Also, I don't think Virat "leaving" Pakhi can be added into this discussion, because he never loved her.

When he got angry on Sai and broke all relations with hi, asked her to get out of the house.. He in a way gave her up.. without giving her a chance to speak anything on her behalf.. He made the decision for both of them.. Then again when Sai reveals it all to the family and goes to Pulkit, he kind of gave up on her when it comes to her emotions, it took Sunny to make him realise that she cares for him, is probably jealous.. And then recently without understanding her viewpoint.. without even her asking him to free her, he is ready to free her.. Without contemplating on the words, Sai and Samrat have spoken, he is fine giving them up on..Thats why I said, to some extent he has fought for them.. But when it comes to his mistakes and there anger, he tries a bit and is ready to leave..He needs a boost from someone to not give up.

Thats why I said, he is not a quitter in full sense, but gives vibes of it..

Also by pakhi I meant who he left giving closure to her, till she meant her feelings evident and not how he left her ..Pooja..😊

Originally posted by: Rdigest

A very interesting perspective. Even I was confused on why he wanted to leave instantly and was rewatching to try and understand that scene. But , this again is contradicting since with Pakhi he only met her 2 days at the camp so he was clear it was not his duty to stop the wedding, but what about Samrat 🙄. He is his Jeeva who is his closest, how can he give up with Jeeva not wanting to come back unless his plan was to return later 🙄

If what you are saying is indeed his character trait I hope he continues to quit when it comes to shoving Pakhi on Samrat in future 😂.

I was talking about how he was not ready to give her a closure, till was evident that she still has feelings for him.. Since he thought he has moved on, she too will.. Just in case of Sai he thinks, she he forgot the waada the deal..she might/should as well without needing to talk..

Virat tries to not get into confrontations.. thats his character trait.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

When he got angry on Sai and broke all relations with hi, asked her to get out of the house.. He in a way gave her up.. without giving her a chance to speak anything on her behalf.. He made the decision for both of them.. Then again when Sai reveals it all to the family and goes to Pulkit, he kind of gave up on her when it comes to her emotions, it took Sunny to make him realise that she cares for him, is probably jealous.. And then recently without understanding her viewpoint.. without even her asking him to free her, he is ready to free her.. Without contemplating on the words, Sai and Samrat have spoken, he is fine giving them up on..Thats why I said, to some extent he has fought for them.. But when it comes to his mistakes and there anger, he tries a bit and is ready to leave..He needs a boost from someone to not give up.

Thats why I said, he is not a quitter in full sense, but gives vibes of it..

Also by pakhi I meant who he left giving closure to her, till she meant her feelings evident and not how he left her ..Pooja..😊

I guess I attribute the moments that you have described to him saying impulsive things in the heat of his emotions and regretting it later... he hasn't really been in his right mind during those times, so I wouldn't say that is a part of who he is at all...

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Neerja I have not seen the episode, but a thought that came in my mind while reading the post was, did we not this Virat earlier.. He is very close to being a quitter when it comes to something that is not his duty..Be it Pakhi, Sai or even Samrat. He will build mountains of emotions around the person , but when it comes to act them, he shirks them off...he gives up... The only person he has been fighting a bit for is Sai...and probably is willing to give her up as well now....

With Pakhi he deserted the much needed talk, till it became obvious that she is still having hopes from her..With Sai probably he would never be having that talk..and is ready to give her up, every time there is a tumult in the relationship...With Samrat he wants to go since Samrat does not want to come..

Quite an interesting thought.. but when Virat decided to move away, I did not see a person who was willing to give up, but as a person who finally learnt to respect other’s decisions. He has taken decisions in the past thinking it was the best for everyone and those decisions came to bite him on his ass.. Even Pakhi has questioned him before as to why everything must happen as per his will.. right from giving the vaada and making Pakhi marry Samrat, he did not consider her ability to choose her life and he decided the fate of two people, thinking it was good for them. This was his greatest downfall.. finally I felt he was realizing it and let them decide on their own.

No I felt virat was spot on.. he could get the vibe that .. he may be the reason for samrat’s leaving .. and it was overwhelming for him .. he had no face to confront him.. so he wanted to get away and be more prepared..

Virat was caught at the back foot.. Neil acted well .. he was totally unprepared and let Sai handle it .. Infact it was Mohit who jumped in and helped Sai .. Mohit is becoming more abd more dominant.. because his past with samrat is not muddied .. He may have thought he will get his family elders .. to mahabaleswar and try to convince samrat ..

Virat knows .. that samrat knows .. Their relationship is officially ruined .. Sai n samrat have a kinship they share the same pain .. Sai feels that .. it is not true for her .. her husband belongs to her only .. virat will have to be more vocal and convince his wife .. he is not letting her go .. samrat n pakhi can whatever they want .. their problem.


Samrat is getting in the skin of his character .. he was away for so long and he is jumping in the porridge .. he had acted well in his first week ..

I am sure he will do well now on this week .. I hope it is out by this week that Samrat wants to divorce pakhi .. and why he left the CNiwas .. to all in the house ..

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I was talking about how he was not ready to give her a closure, till was evident that she still has feelings for her.. Since he thought he has moved on, she too will.. Just in case of Sai he thinks, she he forgot the waada the deal..she might/should as well without needing to talk..

Virat tries to get into confrontations.. thats his character trait.

This is so aptly said. He has a serious problem of being unable to look at situations from other people's perspectives, because he gets too caught up in his own emotions. His emphasis on actions over words does not help his case either...

Originally posted by: tptwi

I guess I attribute the moments that you have described to him saying impulsive things in the heat of his emotions and regretting it later... he hasn't really been in his right mind during those times, so I wouldn't say that is a part of who he is at all...

Yeah even I am talking about his impulse and in his impulse he gives up.. Thats why I said when high on emotions...he is ready to let things go rather being plain angry and upset...Thats his character trait..