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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

TBH when in the sheep game everyone said "Canada" as the most accepting country I literally rolled my eyes, because it's not, it is racist and homophobic. On paper, Yes. In reality.. you know better.

Scandinavian countries definitely do better in these contexts, Europe.. somewhat better... Rest all... We'll probably need another century or two. *Fingers crossed*


I'm so glad your daughter is so accepting and so are you! Kudos and let's hope we and our coming generation makes a change in the way society functions.🤗

Canada was the sheep answer doesnt mean its the right answer Neha😆

But I agree...Scandinavian countries are better not only in terms of accepting the truth about LGBTQ+ but also in other aspects

Even New Zealand is...I have heard

Its a long journey but then charity does begin at home so we all can be those who start changing and start accepting people as who they are rather than how we want them

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

TBH when in the sheep game everyone said "Canada" as the most accepting country I literally rolled my eyes, because it's not, it is racist and homophobic. On paper, Yes. In reality.. you know better.

Scandinavian countries definitely do better in these contexts, Europe.. somewhat better... Rest all... We'll probably need another century or two. *Fingers crossed*


I'm so glad your daughter is so accepting and so are you! Kudos and let's hope we and our coming generation makes a change in the way society functions.🤗


Tbh the polices and the rights that LGBTQ+ people enjoy here in Canada I think parallel the Scandinavian countries. My husband’s company makes it a point to highlight LGBTQ+ employees and pride themselves on the diversity in hiring. And there will be racist and homophobic people everywhere. I just brought up that example in my daughter’s school to exemplify that. It doesn’t mean to negate all the freedom that LGBTQ+ people enjoy here.
Canada was ahead of the US in legalizing same sex marriages. Pride month is big here, Pride parades happening everywhere. It’s mostly people hiding behind religion as a means to hate and be homophobic that bother me.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: LizzieBennett


Tbh the polices and the rights that LGBTQ+ people enjoy here in Canada I think parallel the Scandinavian countries. My husband’s company makes it a point to highlight LGBTQ+ employees and pride themselves on the diversity in hiring. And there will be racist and homophobic people everywhere. I just brought up that example in my daughter’s school to exemplify that. It doesn’t mean to negate all the freedom that LGBTQ+ people enjoy here.
Canada was ahead of the US in legalizing same sex marriages. Pride month is big here, Pride parades happening everywhere. It’s mostly people hiding behind religion as a means to hate and be homophobic that bother me.

My comment was based on people I've interacted with. I've never been there.

But yes we find all sorts of people everywhere. 🤗

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Posted: 4 years ago

Not directly related to the community but about ethnic groups (cleansing).


Do read this. "Anne with an E" shows the Canadian Indian(Indigenous) residential school system where they worked to "civilize" the indigenous people by teaching them English and giving them new names and breaking away from their indigenous identity.


The discovery of the remains of 215 children on the grounds of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School on May 24, 2021..

They are trying to make amends but the history of inhumanity is still alive in the people who are in their 50s minimum.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

Not directly related to the community but about ethnic groups (cleansing).


Do read this. "Anne with an E" shows the Canadian Indian(Indigenous) residential school system where they worked to "civilize" the indigenous people by teaching them English and giving them new names and breaking away from their indigenous identity.


The discovery of the remains of 215 children on the grounds of the former Kamloops Indian Residential School on May 24, 2021..

They are trying to make amends but the history of inhumanity is still alive in the people who are in their 50s minimum.


Yes, the Kamloops discovery has shocked everyone here. Canada is doing its best to make amends but it's not enough. It will never be enough. They displaced the Indigenous people and robbed them of their sacred land, relegating them to reserves, marginalizing them. That would be okay, if strangely (and ironically) if they didn't try to assimilate them too by way of the horrors that were the residential schools. Canada's colonial past is catching up with them and Indigenous people have too much to contend with in terms of intergenerational trauma. It keeps revisiting them, generations are impacted and we see the truth unfold in the statistics where Indigenous women go missing or are murdered, Indigenous children are placed in foster care, youth incarcerated, unemployed, on drugs and so on. Colonialism has destroyed one whole set of peoples, and their lifestyles. And we should know. We have been ruled by them too- the only difference being that they left us, and our land eventually. But for the Indigenous? The land they called their own is no longer their own. They have been cruelly and unjustly evicted, and what they lost can never be regained. It's injustice in a way that cannot even be defined because there's no way to right this wrong.


We had a whole course on Indigenous history that I had to get credits for, and the things I learned shocked me! It makes me look at them in a totally different light.

Which is why I keep telling people who are unable to accept LGBTQ+ to educate themselves. That is the only way to broaden your mind, understand reality and see things differently. It's never too late to change!


I'm yet to watch 'Anne with an E', I've heard good things though, and will be watching soon.

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Posted: 4 years ago

We had a whole course on Indigenous history that I had to get credits for, and the things I learned shocked me! It makes me look at them in a totally different light.

When I saw the episodes of Anne, I couldn't believe that it was so real and then I started reading and I cried while just finishing one article and then there were so many people telling their versions and it breaks my heart.

There are things that can never be undone, colonialism and it's impact is one of them. It really is a terrible world we live in.. and we can only do so much or so little. 🥺

That is the only way to broaden your mind, understand reality and see things differently. It's never too late to change!

Words to live by!🤗

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

We had a whole course on Indigenous history that I had to get credits for, and the things I learned shocked me! It makes me look at them in a totally different light.

When I saw the episodes of Anne, I couldn't believe that it was so real and then I started reading and I cried while just finishing one article and then there were so many people telling their versions and it breaks my heart.

There are things that can never be undone, colonialism and it's impact is one of them. It really is a terrible world we live in.. and we can only do so much or so little. 🥺

That is the only way to broaden your mind, understand reality and see things differently. It's never too late to change!

Words to live by!🤗


You know, Neha, I'm ready to admit that when I first came to this country, and I would see Indigenous peoples on the road or in the transit mostly stoned or sitting on the pavements soliciting for money (to get drugs most likely), I would be frightened and a little bit disgusted. I took very little time to label them, warning my kid not to frequent places where they would be, telling her they are dangerous because they behave a certain way, and would myself take care not to interact with them because I saw them as a threat to my safety. The course and its readings changed me. Now when I meet someone Indigenous I take care to ask them which nation they're from, I inquire about their well-being and see their eyes light up. These people have been victimized in the worst way possible. Intergenerational trauma is a reality that runs deep with them. I see it every day at my work too - how the women and children keep enduring the cycle of abuse and violence. I would say it's a kind of genocide paralleling the holocaust. Media here has called it 'cultural genocide' and I have to agree. It was an attempt to wipe away the ancient culture and traditions of an entire set of people and assimilate them into the European way of life, calling their ways 'barbaric'. Very similar to what they did to us. Even now, media paints our culture as quirky and funny, our religion as pagan and our beliefs as outdated.


Education is the only way to change this. And of course the ability and the willingness to change and admit you were wrong. Education can be easily got, but the other thing is inherent and even with education, unfortunately, some people will remain the way they always were.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: LizzieBennett


You know, Neha, I'm ready to admit that when I first came to this country, and I would see Indigenous peoples on the road or in the transit mostly stoned or sitting on the pavements soliciting for money (to get drugs most likely), I would be frightened and a little bit disgusted. I took very little time to label them, warning my kid not to frequent places where they would be, telling her they are dangerous because they behave a certain way, and would myself take care not to interact with them because I saw them as a threat to my safety. The course and its readings changed me. Now when I meet someone Indigenous I take care to ask them which nation they're from, I inquire about their well-being and see their eyes light up. These people have been victimized in the worst way possible. Intergenerational trauma is a reality that runs deep with them. I see it every day at my work too - how the women and children keep enduring the cycle of abuse and violence. I would say it's a kind of genocide paralleling the holocaust. Media here has called it 'cultural genocide' and I have to agree. It was an attempt to wipe away the ancient culture and traditions of an entire set of people and assimilate them into the European way of life, calling their ways 'barbaric'. Very similar to what they did to us. Even now, media paints our culture as quirky and funny, our religion as pagan and our beliefs as outdated.


Education is the only way to change this. And of course the ability and the willingness to change and admit you were wrong. Education can be easily got, but the other thing is inherent and even with education, unfortunately, some people will remain the way they always were.

🤗

Unlearning beliefs and things we've been conditioned through childhood is difficult and it takes a lot of guts to admit that you've been doing something wrong because you didn't know it was wrong.

Education does help but you have to know what to learn and what to unlearn.


Media is such a powerful tool, it saddens me to see people misusing it and using it to spread falsehood and misinformation rather than showcasing the reality, they're so driven by masala and TRP, truth is barely showcased.

I guess there's still hope.


I'll share an incident. In my university, we have this kid who loves to cross-dress as a woman. In the beginning I heard a lot of people talk shit about him and call him all sorts of names. He used to sit under a tree outside my department, his dept. was just next to mine. In my first year, I never interacted with him, my conditioning and what not.

In second year, I talked to him and learnt that he was such an amazing person! We're friends now and I always compliment him for his dresses and he loves it. When I complimented him the first time, he said that I was probably one of the few people who actually got to know him and accept him.

I've literally fought (verbally) with people who called him names.

So, yes, unlearning is possible and do it whenever you can!

Power to you for raising amazing kids! 🤗

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

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Unlearning beliefs and things we've been conditioned through childhood is difficult and it takes a lot of guts to admit that you've been doing something wrong because you didn't know it was wrong.

Education does help but you have to know what to learn and what to unlearn.


Media is such a powerful tool, it saddens me to see people misusing it and using it to spread falsehood and misinformation rather than showcasing the reality, they're so driven by masala and TRP, truth is barely showcased.

I guess there's still hope.


I'll share an incident. In my university, we have this kid who loves to cross-dress as a woman. In the beginning I heard a lot of people talk shit about him and call him all sorts of names. He used to sit under a tree outside my department, his dept. was just next to mine. In my first year, I never interacted with him, my conditioning and what not.

In second year, I talked to him and learnt that he was such an amazing person! We're friends now and I always compliment him for his dresses and he loves it. When I complimented him the first time, he said that I was probably one of the few people who actually got to know him and accept him.

I've literally fought (verbally) with people who called him names.

So, yes, unlearning is possible and do it whenever you can!

Power to you for raising amazing kids! 🤗


Thank you! I try! 😳

Keeping an open mind has helped. And also, society here is so much more broad-minded and accepting than in India. So that helps too! Different is not seen as weird or wrong, it's seen as individualism which is to be respected.

But I agree with you 100%, you have to know what to learn and what to unlearn.

Right or wrong are a lot of times, in your mind. Only you will be able to define it based on your sense of morality and values.

Kudos to you for standing up for that kid! 👏

I tell my kid the same thing - do not succumb to peer pressure. When her friends pressurize her that she is too accepting and she needn't be, I tell her to stand up for her beliefs and point out where they're wrong. I hope she stays on that path!

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: LizzieBennett

Thank you! I try! 😳

Keeping an open mind has helped. And also, society here is so much more broad-minded and accepting than in India. So that helps too! Different is not seen as weird or wrong, it's seen as individualism which is to be respected.

But I agree with you 100%, you have to know what to learn and what to unlearn.

Right or wrong are a lot of times, in your mind. Only you will be able to define it based on your sense of morality and values. 🤗

Kudos to you for standing up for that kid! 👏

I tell my kid the same thing - do not succumb to peer pressure. When her friends pressurize her that she is too accepting and she needn't be, I tell her to stand up for her beliefs and point out where they're wrong. I hope she stays on that path!

Acceptance is the bare minimum, everyone should do it!! Tell her to keep doing what she feels is right, no matter what everyone else says and get better/new friends if these keep pressuring her into doing things she doesn't like.

Having supportive friends is very important. They should stand up for each-other and against everything that is wrong.

And yes, life is too short to waste in hatred, love is all that we got, give it as much and you'll receive so much more! 🤗

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