Slow acceptance of Maami is disconcerting

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Ok ok I know I am nitpicking... I really try to avoid stirring the pot, but I wanted to get this off my chest. This is not a very important issue so please read at leisure and ignore as needed đŸ€·â€â™€ïž Also, please note, this is NOT an angry rant, just some musings.


Whenever I see Maami being appreciated or folks wanting to Shiva to eventually accept Maami, I get low-key anxiety. Don’t get me wrong I love Pallavi Rao and her acting, and I would be lying if I say that I am not entertained when she is on the screen- it’s more about the character’s story arc.

I usually pride myself in being a pretty unbiased viewer, but in light of the backlash for Dhara’s physical abuse and the guys manhandling the wives, I feel very uneasy when Maami is so easily accepted, with expectations that Shiva will one day accept her for Raavi.


What Dhara did was cruel, but what Maami did was pure evil. She made Suman’s husband get a loan and give her money, and then conveniently refused to give it back. The financial fallout caused Pandya Sr. to loose his life. Pandya Stores got mortgaged because of it. And she happily blamed Gautam for the state of the stores and played a hand in stopping his marriage with Anitha.

But the true cruelty was when she gives an 8 year old Shiva some beggars plates and tells him that he and his family will beg on the streets. I cannot imagine what that must have done to the psyche of a child who has just seen his brother been pushed out of their store, and the store being taken over by goons. That counts for some level of emotional abuse.


But now that she is shown in a comical light, everything is good and well, and we can expect Shiva to eventually start being nice to her for Raavi’s sake. I just cannot get down behind that 😐. I wonder if Dhara started to have more fun and light hearted dialogues, or of Dev and Shiva start becoming more romantic, would their previous behaviors be considered null and void.

I would love a story arc where Maami actually repents for her deeds(won’t happen). In the OG, the maami was never cruel, she would just taunt Dhara, so Shiva in that version warming towards Maami made some sense. Here if Shiva just forgives Maami easily, my heart might just break.


PS. Now that I think of it... poor Shiva, he has been majorly emotionally and physically abused at various points in his life. He needs professional counseling 😞


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Agree with your post. Mami is still evil, but I want her only for comedy. I do not want her anywhere near Shiva or Raavi😕

Even if Shiva did not accept her, I wouldn't mind. But we have Dhara, the Mahaan, she will butt in this business too and force Shiva to accept Mami for Raavi's sake.

But we do not get what want and the writers of this show have amnesia. Just like how they are saving Dhara's behind, they will make sure Shiva accepts Mami as well😡

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Lovely post! 👏

I complete agree with what you said! I would never want Shiva to accept Maami, unless she genuinely regrets what she has done, and has a major redemption arc. She was pure evil and caused a man to lose his life.

I just enjoy Maami for comic relief, but that's about it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I agree with your point, I'll admit I've often forgotten how evil her intentions and actions were because she's been a comic character after leap. Although I don't want Shiva to simply soften towards Maami for Raavi's sake, I wouldn't mind that it we get a redemption arc for her. Then, it would be a little heartwarming even though that would never absolve her of what she's done. I'd like Prafulla to extend an olive branch towards Shiva after she sees how he genuinely cares about Raavi, continue to do so whilst simultaneously realizing and genuinely repenting for all the pain and loss she caused. However, I want Shiva's acceptance to be slow and reluctant, because that's definitely happening given this is an ITV show. I only want him to grudgingly accept her after she's done all this and maybe when they're in a vulnerable position, such as Raavi being fatally injured and her turning to him as the one other person who cares about her child just as selflessly. Perhaps they could work together for Raavi after all that happens, although I seriously doubt a daily soap would ever give such thought to a character's past actions.


Speaking of Raavi being hospitalised, I imagine a poignant scene where Mami breaks down in front of him and clutches onto him, and he slowly places a hand on her arm - the least he could do for someone facing the possibility of encountering the same kind of loss he went through, and the most he could do for someone who caused him such a grave loss.


In real life, though, it would be extremely improbable that a person as passionate as Shiva would ever forgive her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I’m not scared that people will expect Shiva to accept Maami, or at least expects him to respect her now that he’s married to Raavi. Because this will happen and Shiva will either rebel or just go away without saying anything(because obviously he won’t be able to talk back to his BELOVED Bhabhi).


What I am scared about (and I KNOW if per typical ITV Track), EVERYTHING Maami does Shiva will blame Raavi. These both are fiery people. While Raavi has her moments of calm and maturity, but Shiva’s anger is sometimes (oftentimes ?) uncontrollable even by his Bhabhi. How long will Raavi need to give in and calm him down ? Until what limit will Raavi have to bear his hatred, when his family(Dev) has humiliated her on her wedding day to the point of her wanting to commit suicide.

In my opinion, 2 wrongs don’t make a right. As long as Shiva doesn’t DELIBERATELY hurt Raavi in his anger, or even unintentionally hurt her, then I don’t think there will be any problems between them. Because Raavi has decided to move on and focus on their marriage. Yes she hasn’t fully accepted it yet, but she does accept that they are bound together. And that’s NOT easy for a girl to do. After all the trauma’s she’s been through since she was a child, even at the hands of Shiva himself. Yes his father died at the hands of Maami, but he had his family to fall back on. Meanwhile Raavi has essentially been alone since she was a child.

I’m scared that the limit will get crossed, and as per typical ITV some big accident/chaos will happen, and no closure will be given and everything will just be swept under the rug 😅


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Felicie

I agree with your point, I'll admit I've often forgotten how evil her intentions and actions were because she's been a comic character after leap. Although I don't want Shiva to simply soften towards Maami for Raavi's sake, I wouldn't mind that it we get a redemption arc for her. Then, it would be a little heartwarming even though that would never absolve her of what she's done. I'd like Prafulla to extend an olive branch towards Shiva after she sees how he genuinely cares about Raavi, continue to do so whilst simultaneously realizing and genuinely repenting for all the pain and loss she caused. However, I want Shiva's acceptance to be slow and reluctant, because that's definitely happening given this is an ITV show. I only want him to grudgingly accept her after she's done all this and maybe when they're in a vulnerable position, such as Raavi being fatally injured and her turning to him as the one other person who cares about her child just as selflessly. Perhaps they could work together for Raavi after all that happens, although I seriously doubt a daily soap would ever give such thought to a character's past actions.


Speaking of Raavi being hospitalised, I imagine a poignant scene where Mami breaks down in front of him and clutches onto him, and he slowly places a hand on her arm - the least he could do for someone facing the possibility of encountering the same kind of loss he went through, and the most he could do for someone who caused him such a grave loss.


In real life, though, it would be extremely improbable that a person as passionate as Shiva would ever forgive her.

If you think about it, this is a potential goldmine for ShiVi bonding. Imagine later when ShiVi are getting closer, Shiva recounts the pain and anguish Maami has caused, how it affected not only Pandya family but Dhara too(I am pretty sure Raavi, despite witnessing the happenings, would have gotten the Maami curated version of events).


Raavi, understanding the true depth of his emotions, shows the mirror to Maami, and points out the consequences and fallout of her actions. It then makes sense for Maami to start repenting and see the error of her ways


Bah, ITV will not give us such things. Well maybe, if there is dhum thanana background when Raavi confronts Maami. A girl can always dream 💭


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hanyshah

I’m not scared that people will expect Shiva to accept Maami, or at least expects him to respect her now that he’s married to Raavi. Because this will happen and Shiva will either rebel or just go away without saying anything(because obviously he won’t be able to talk back to his BELOVED Bhabhi).


What I am scared about (and I KNOW if per typical ITV Track), EVERYTHING Maami does Shiva will blame Raavi. These both are fiery people. While Raavi has her moments of calm and maturity, but Shiva’s anger is sometime even uncontrollable even by his Bhabhi. How long will Raavi need to give in and calm him down ? Until what limit will Raavi have to bear his hatred, when his family(Dev) has humiliated her on her wedding day to the point of her wanting to commit suicide.

In my opinion, 2 wrongs don’t make a right. As long as Shiva doesn’t DELIBERATELY hurt Raavi in his anger, or even unintentionally hurt her, then I don’t think there will be any problems between them. Because Raavi has decided to move on and focus on their marriage. Yes she hasn’t fully accepted it yet, but she does accept that they are bound together. And that’s NOT easy for a girl to do. After all the trauma’s she’s been through since she was a child, even at the hands of Shiva himself. Yes his father died at the hands of Maami, but he had his family to fall back on. Meanwhile Raavi has essentially been alone since she was a child.

I’m scared that the limit will get crossed, and as per typical ITV some big accident/chaos will happen, and no closure will be given and everything will just be swept under the rug 😅


TRP ke chakkar Bhabhu bhaiyya, TRP ke chakkar đŸ€Ł


However, I am kind of holding out hope that Shiva does not blame her, because in the OG, Kathir starts changing his stance over time, and actually starts trusting that Mullai will not side with her mom. And Shiva is already seeing Raavi’s loyalty in today’s episode. So hopefully not too much TRP drama đŸ€ž


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: funny_fubar

TRP ke chakkar Bhabhu bhaiyya, TRP ke chakkar đŸ€Ł


However, I am kind of holding out hope that Shiva does not blame her, because in the OG, Kathir starts changing his stance over time, and actually starts trusting that Mullai will not side with her mom. And Shiva is already seeing Raavi’s loyalty in today’s episode. So hopefully not too much TRP drama đŸ€ž



That’s the problem ! In the OG, Kathir wasn’t as anger driven or Bhabhi worshipping as Shiva is, if I’m not mistaken ?


That’s what scares me. Yes he has his moments, he has this soft look whenever he realizes how well his wife is settling with his family. Compared to Rishita, Raavi is a THOUSAND times better fit for his family. But anytime Maami comes into the picture, his pain overcomes his logic and because he hates that power she has to hurt him and his family, he turns to anger.

Even in today’s episode, Raavi herself said to Shiva. “You’re mad at the world(other people), but you take it out on me.” (somewhat roughly).


So yeah, here’s hoping he can differentiate between Raavi and the version of Maami ki behen ki beti that he has created in his mind and hated all through childhood. đŸ€žđŸ»đŸ€žđŸ»đŸ€žđŸ»

The thing is, they’ve both said things they don’t mean while in anger. I just hop Shiva won’t say anything in anger that will REALLY hurt Raavi đŸ„șđŸ„ș

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Originally posted by: Hanyshah


That’s the problem ! In the OG, Kathir wasn’t as anger driven or Bhabhi worshipping as Shiva is, if I’m not mistaken ?


That’s what scares me. Yes he has his moments, he has this soft look whenever he realizes how well his wife is settling with his family. Compared to Rishita, Raavi is a THOUSAND times better fit for his family. But anytime Maami comes into the picture, his pain overcomes his logic and because he hates that power she has to hurt him and his family, he turns to anger.

Even in today’s episode, Raavi herself said to Shiva. “You’re mad at the world(other people), but you take it out on me.” (somewhat roughly).


So yeah, here’s hoping he can differentiate between Raavi and the version of Maami ki behen ki beti that he has created in his mind and hated all through childhood. đŸ€žđŸ»đŸ€žđŸ»đŸ€žđŸ»

The thing is, they’ve both said things they don’t mean while in anger. I just hop Shiva won’t say anything in anger that will REALLY hurt Raavi đŸ„șđŸ„ș

Well the thing is, in the OG, there was no batwara nonsense. The entire family stood rock solid behind Mullai(Raavi). Sometimes Kathir would get scolded for no fault of his, when Mullai creates a ruckus. Everyone including GauRa, Dev and Krish in that version support her. Kathir could fight with her when alone, but would not directly disrespect her in front of the family.


It bothers me that Raavi is pretty much left high and dry in this version. They talk to her, but none fights with Shiva for her. And Shiva too is not exactly super respectful of her in front of others. I hope after this current track, the family gets back together and Raavi has some support.


Anyways, there are a lot of tracks in the OG where Maami insults Kathir and family, so if makers go by that, we have a lot more Maami drama to see. Yes Raavi might get hurt, but I am hoping this paves the way to some conversations about deep rooted hurt and Raavi forcing Maami to repent. It would be terrible if he hurts her, and somehow manaofies her, and all this baggage is swept under the rug.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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They have made maami really evil here. So accepting her without proper redemption is not a good idea. I don't even care what happens to her as long as she stays away from ShiVi and their matters. What I want is for Shiva to treat Raavi as a separate person and not an extension of maami. Most of the problems between them is because Shiva can't see beyond his anger for maami and projects it unjustly on Raavi. I want that to stop.

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