Sushant Singh Rajput Case Thread #7 - UPDATES/DISCUSSIONS (DT Note 140 - Page 60

Originally posted by: RitRitzz

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Ishki lagi PADI hai how to do more cover up shameless 😆

i guess...u r right...his pride and whatever is on stake.....janta hv literally tarnished his name🤣

Originally posted by: fosla

Hey, I wish for all the genuine fans to find the closure as this is was a very difficult end with the expectation of an idol who had a great future roadmap and hailed to even become the next SRK!

Thank you for hearing out the other neutral viewers side as we are someone who is not losing sleep over the suicide and also have the exact same opinion on the gold digger theory.

The blood thirsty mob is definitely riding the emotions of genuine fans like you with their agenda. My only request would be to not let them trample lives on thee way with their vendetta using your love for your idol. If any of these people who have been trolled, Face the end of SSR, that would not be karma for a genuine fan. Only for the mob and trolls.

good luck to you and those who are honestly unable to overcome this terrible loss. Time is a true healer and I believe it having witnessed in personal losses

Thanks! Just for the sake of my own conscience I must confess that I'm not his genuine fan.

I was impressed by his presence in Pavitra Rishta. Loved him in Kai Poche. Then started stalking his Twitter and following everything about him. Wishing for him to marry Ankita, really really desperately lol.

But then I started distancing from him. MeToo was a punch in the gut. I almost started abhorring him, and the delay in clarification from Sanjana, no matter how genuine her intentions, was extremely suspicious to me. I wrote elsewhere as well, that blinds are like the movie Inception. They plant a small idea in our minds and then allow it to flourish organically!

When Rishi Kapoor's news came, I was completely okay, just a little sad. When Irfan's news came, I thought I'll be okay, but ended up crying (I cry very rarely, except for when watching TV). When I heard of SSR, I was shocked, and thought I'll be okay. But something about this entire case started becoming a naasoor(wound) within me that started growing each passing day. Something about the facts selectively leaked by Mumbai Police didn't make sense. Believe me, I've NOT ruled out suicide. I say it is possible. I only had objections with people who claim this is 100% suicide. Many mocked people like us who suspected foul play: from making fun of our intelligence, to saying we're in ignorance of mental health issues, to saying we're thinking of mental health as demeaning, to saying we're in this because of Arnab (how preposterous! I haven't watched that guy for the last few years, not even today in this case!) to what not. And they said this is a simple case of suicide. You know the most jaw dropping thing about this: he could be murdered even by hanging! There, I said it. I don't believe that is the case. But I am waiting for a semblance of an investigation before concluding anything; and what Mumbai Police conducted was - I'm sorry to say - a sham!

I can't tell you how much pain I've endured and have cried multiple times. I'm not even his fan, so I can understand what his genuine fans have gone through. 💔

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Originally posted by: zaroonkashaf

I'll just like to begin with that I was neutral here till I heard about his passing. I had watched a handful of his movies and didn't follow him closely. So firstly let's get rid of this notion that everyone who has sought for justice here is part of some right wing mob. Trust me many of us have nothing to do with the right wing ideology or the likes of Arnab. Infact some of us lean towards the left , are staunch feminists yet can see this for what it is. There might be many here who subscribe to a certain ideology or politics or party but this notion that this whole movement has been lead by those folks is preposterous. Not to mention it is extremely presumptuous to believe that the momentum has been this way because of a certain group of people. If anything it shows that people from all walks of life , no matter whether they lean right or left or are centrists have raised questions which is why the support for justice here has been so overwhelming.

Now coming to Arnab. His agenda has been known to most people who have followed his brand of "journalism". And I put that in quotes precisely because I don't even consider it journalism. I know many do so to each his own. Here is the thing though most people in the world of news these days are more after TRPs and pleasing their masters. Arnab's propaganda is blatant af , it doesn't mean the likes of Barkha or Sardesai are without their flaws. If Republic was running with a certain narrative , so was India Today. They just took a line which was the opposite of what Republic was doing as it was the only way they could fetch some TRPs. So let's call out the hypocrisy of all here. Sardesai had the Akhtars talking about nepotism! Imagine talking about nepotism with a a bunch of people whose whole family is into the movie business. Then you had him call the lawyer of Sushant's family on his show and basically asked him why there is a media trial when the very channel he is representing has been a mouthpiece of Rhea all this while. So by all means call out who you want to call out in terms of these "journalists" but this notion that only one person here has an agenda is ridiculous. All of them do. It's just that Arnab's brand of journalism is so bigoted and so OTT that it's hard to not comment on it.

Now coming to the topics of blind items , nepotism and all that. They are issues that exist in the film industry. They are issues that just came to the forefront with Sushant's passing because his passing was that kind of a jolt. The fact that you can write just about anything under the sun in the name of blinds without any accountability is an issue and should be discussed. Since we care about mental health here , it should be focused on even more because it can indeed impact someone's mental health. It is clear in the case of Sushant that that shit did get to him. It affected him. So of course people will talk about it. And it should be talked about. Instead of actually addressing the issue , most in the industry either were busy taking petty potshots at each other or just getting way too defensive over these issues. Just because a case has been filed here , doesn't mean these issues cease to exist. They should be addressed...period.

I'm well aware of Sushant's past relationship history. I don't understand what that has to do with this though. You can be in plenty of relationships that are healthy for the most part and still end up in an abusive relationship. Your past history doesn't guarantee anything. Abusive relationships don't come with the tag of abusive. People who have have been in healthy relationships can easily be sucked into one that is toxic. Also being needy or clingy or however way you want to describe him makes him infact even more vulnerable as a person. Because if he was indeed someone who was that way then it would be even easier for him to settle into a relationship that is toxic.

And no this is not a he said and she said scenario. There are legit things here that point to an abusive relationship. One is not throwing that word out there for the heck of it. I have known of people who have been sucked into these relationships and the signs are as blatant as they can be in this case. The common factor amongst most abusive or toxic relationships is control. Here was someone who was being controlled when it came to every aspect of his life with regards to his partner. His staff who had been with him for years was suddenly fired one by one. His family and friends became estranged soon after this girl entered the picture. Most out there would be throwing the word abuse out there if the genders here were reversed. People hesitate precisely because of the stats out there. Because it is women who are at the receiving end of abuse more often than not.

No neutral person or anyone for that matters wants to see any innocent being dragged as you put it. But asking for justice or raising questions is required in cases where there is ample evidence out there to suggest as to how much Sushant was being exploited here not just financially but even emotionally.

Which mental health professional are you referring to here? The one who came out to cape for Rhea. The sham of a therapist who didn't know a thing about ethics when it comes to the field of mental health. Is that the one who you are referring to? Breaching client confidentiality in the name of wanting to eradicate stigma from mental health...is that the professional you are talking about here...lol?

I'm sure she didn't know he would be committing suicide. Hell I'm sure he didn't know he would do something like that. But this was someone who was apparently fully in charge of his treatment to the point where it seems like she is the one who had agency over things here. She was his partner. She knew his mental state at the time. She might not have known he would commit suicide but she knew enough to know what his mental state was...right? By all means take whatever breaks you want but then take ownership of the fact that you left him when he perhaps needed you the most. Don't go around making posts about eternal and exponential nature of love when you not only left the person in such a state but blocked him! Btw this under any circumstances would be referred to as toxic behavior. Not to mention there are several statements out there that pretty much painted a picture in the beginning which suggested she was not only in touch with him but with his sister before she left. Why go to such a degree where you need to plant this BS out there if you feel you did nothing wrong in leaving him in the state that you did. Not just that , her latest statement said she didn't want to leave but he asked her to. If you cared so deeply that you didn't even want to leave then why would you block the person. Why would you not just block him but not respond to Pithani who you told that you were a phone call away. I understand giving benefit of doubt to people, I don't understand giving benefit of doubt in a case where her own statements have been full of inconsistencies to say the least.

He was estranged from the very family you are trying to blame here . It was his family who was by his side till the end. Not his partner. The father that you are talking about tried to reach the person you are giving all this benefit of doubt to. But that person didn't have the decency to even let him know how his son was doing all the while talking about his personal business to the likes of Mahesh Bhatt and his associates. I don't know you have been reading but his sisters visited him in November , in January and in June. There are enough texts out there that suggest as to how worried they were for his well being. Not to mention there was a lockdown in Bombay and most of India. The sister who was in Bombay came to see him as soon as he reached out to her after Rhea had left. That sister wasn't living with him for months. She came when Rhea abruptly left. She was infact supposed to come back on the day he passed away. This notion that his family didn't give a damn is so absurd when everything out there suggests that they did everything they could to help him and reach out to him. The notion of revenge is even more insulting. Legal cases can exhaust you financially, emotionally and mentally. Why would they want to go through that for the heck of it. There is obviously enough here that has made them file an FIR. Nobody would want the kind of scrutiny that something like this would put you under for the heck of it man. Not to mention they had already raised a complaint with the former DCP of Bandra so the revenge theory goes out the window. If the theory here is they are doing what they are doing because he ended up losing his life and want to blame someone for the heck of it then there goes that theory out the window when they had raised their apprehension all the way in Feb as well. Please inform yourself a little about how what effect a toxic relationship can have on the family or loved ones of those who are victims of such relationships. Sometimes you can raise all the alarm bells in the world and it doesn't lead to anything.

Depression is indeed real. Mental health should be given the focus it deserves. Mental health doesn't exist in a vacuum though. I dig how an ex girlfriend's(who he btw had no contact with) apparent engagement can affect him but the one he was living with who was toxic as they come can have no effect on his mental health. Also his family was very much in touch with him in those last few days. One of his sisters lives in the US, one in Delhi , one in Haryana if I'm not wrong and one in Bombay. Since it is Covid time, the one who was in Bombay was there as soon as he reached out. The family you are trying to blame here was the only one who was by his side till the very end.

Since so many here care so much about mental health, it is also extremely important to note that people struggling with mental health issues can be exploited too. It is also important to note that mental health issues can very much be triggered and exacerbated by a toxic environment. It is funny because the convenient narrative here is not the one of abusive relationship. Infact the convenient narrative here that has been used to brush aside every other factor is that of mental health. It's also rather ironic that folks who are talking about it are so dismissive of seeing as to what kind of a relationship Sushant was in with regards to his partner when he passed away. A toxic relationship can destroy your mental health.

To his family this is hardly a charade. To people who genuinely love him and care for him it isn't one. Not to mention there are plenty of folks roaming around freely in this country who are guilty of so many crimes so if this ends up being one of those cases it wouldn't be a shock. Hell there are likes of Salman in this industry who have got away with so much. So if folks here go scott free , it wouldn't be shocking at all. Let's see which way this case goes.

You are an articulate writer. So much that you have written here is what I wanted to say/write, however I am not as good as you. Thanks for saying what I feel so strongly but am unable to express.

Originally posted by: gima5

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Originally posted by: SriRani

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Originally posted by: zaroonkashaf

I'll just like to begin with that I was neutral here till I heard about his passing. I had watched a handful of his movies and didn't follow him closely. So firstly let's get rid of this notion that everyone who has sought for justice here is part of some right wing mob. Trust me many of us have nothing to do with the right wing ideology or the likes of Arnab. Infact some of us lean towards the left , are staunch feminists yet can see this for what it is. There might be many here who subscribe to a certain ideology or politics or party but this notion that this whole movement has been lead by those folks is preposterous. Not to mention it is extremely presumptuous to believe that the momentum has been this way because of a certain group of people. If anything it shows that people from all walks of life , no matter whether they lean right or left or are centrists have raised questions which is why the support for justice here has been so overwhelming.

Now coming to Arnab. His agenda has been known to most people who have followed his brand of "journalism". And I put that in quotes precisely because I don't even consider it journalism. I know many do so to each his own. Here is the thing though most people in the world of news these days are more after TRPs and pleasing their masters. Arnab's propaganda is blatant af , it doesn't mean the likes of Barkha or Sardesai are without their flaws. If Republic was running with a certain narrative , so was India Today. They just took a line which was the opposite of what Republic was doing as it was the only way they could fetch some TRPs. So let's call out the hypocrisy of all here. Sardesai had the Akhtars talking about nepotism! Imagine talking about nepotism with a a bunch of people whose whole family is into the movie business. Then you had him call the lawyer of Sushant's family on his show and basically asked him why there is a media trial when the very channel he is representing has been a mouthpiece of Rhea all this while. So by all means call out who you want to call out in terms of these "journalists" but this notion that only one person here has an agenda is ridiculous. All of them do. It's just that Arnab's brand of journalism is so bigoted and so OTT that it's hard to not comment on it.

Now coming to the topics of blind items , nepotism and all that. They are issues that exist in the film industry. They are issues that just came to the forefront with Sushant's passing because his passing was that kind of a jolt. The fact that you can write just about anything under the sun in the name of blinds without any accountability is an issue and should be discussed. Since we care about mental health here , it should be focused on even more because it can indeed impact someone's mental health. It is clear in the case of Sushant that that shit did get to him. It affected him. So of course people will talk about it. And it should be talked about. Instead of actually addressing the issue , most in the industry either were busy taking petty potshots at each other or just getting way too defensive over these issues. Just because a case has been filed here , doesn't mean these issues cease to exist. They should be addressed...period.

I'm well aware of Sushant's past relationship history. I don't understand what that has to do with this though. You can be in plenty of relationships that are healthy for the most part and still end up in an abusive relationship. Your past history doesn't guarantee anything. Abusive relationships don't come with the tag of abusive. People who have have been in healthy relationships can easily be sucked into one that is toxic. Also being needy or clingy or however way you want to describe him makes him infact even more vulnerable as a person. Because if he was indeed someone who was that way then it would be even easier for him to settle into a relationship that is toxic.

And no this is not a he said and she said scenario. There are legit things here that point to an abusive relationship. One is not throwing that word out there for the heck of it. I have known of people who have been sucked into these relationships and the signs are as blatant as they can be in this case. The common factor amongst most abusive or toxic relationships is control. Here was someone who was being controlled when it came to every aspect of his life with regards to his partner. His staff who had been with him for years was suddenly fired one by one. His family and friends became estranged soon after this girl entered the picture. Most out there would be throwing the word abuse out there if the genders here were reversed. People hesitate precisely because of the stats out there. Because it is women who are at the receiving end of abuse more often than not.

No neutral person or anyone for that matters wants to see any innocent being dragged as you put it. But asking for justice or raising questions is required in cases where there is ample evidence out there to suggest as to how much Sushant was being exploited here not just financially but even emotionally.

Which mental health professional are you referring to here? The one who came out to cape for Rhea. The sham of a therapist who didn't know a thing about ethics when it comes to the field of mental health. Is that the one who you are referring to? Breaching client confidentiality in the name of wanting to eradicate stigma from mental health...is that the professional you are talking about here...lol?

I'm sure she didn't know he would be committing suicide. Hell I'm sure he didn't know he would do something like that. But this was someone who was apparently fully in charge of his treatment to the point where it seems like she is the one who had agency over things here. She was his partner. She knew his mental state at the time. She might not have known he would commit suicide but she knew enough to know what his mental state was...right? By all means take whatever breaks you want but then take ownership of the fact that you left him when he perhaps needed you the most. Don't go around making posts about eternal and exponential nature of love when you not only left the person in such a state but blocked him! Btw this under any circumstances would be referred to as toxic behavior. Not to mention there are several statements out there that pretty much painted a picture in the beginning which suggested she was not only in touch with him but with his sister before she left. Why go to such a degree where you need to plant this BS out there if you feel you did nothing wrong in leaving him in the state that you did. Not just that , her latest statement said she didn't want to leave but he asked her to. If you cared so deeply that you didn't even want to leave then why would you block the person. Why would you not just block him but not respond to Pithani who you told that you were a phone call away. I understand giving benefit of doubt to people, I don't understand giving benefit of doubt in a case where her own statements have been full of inconsistencies to say the least.

He was estranged from the very family you are trying to blame here . It was his family who was by his side till the end. Not his partner. The father that you are talking about tried to reach the person you are giving all this benefit of doubt to. But that person didn't have the decency to even let him know how his son was doing all the while talking about his personal business to the likes of Mahesh Bhatt and his associates. I don't know you have been reading but his sisters visited him in November , in January and in June. There are enough texts out there that suggest as to how worried they were for his well being. Not to mention there was a lockdown in Bombay and most of India. The sister who was in Bombay came to see him as soon as he reached out to her after Rhea had left. That sister wasn't living with him for months. She came when Rhea abruptly left. She was infact supposed to come back on the day he passed away. This notion that his family didn't give a damn is so absurd when everything out there suggests that they did everything they could to help him and reach out to him. The notion of revenge is even more insulting. Legal cases can exhaust you financially, emotionally and mentally. Why would they want to go through that for the heck of it. There is obviously enough here that has made them file an FIR. Nobody would want the kind of scrutiny that something like this would put you under for the heck of it man. Not to mention they had already raised a complaint with the former DCP of Bandra so the revenge theory goes out the window. If the theory here is they are doing what they are doing because he ended up losing his life and want to blame someone for the heck of it then there goes that theory out the window when they had raised their apprehension all the way in Feb as well. Please inform yourself a little about how what effect a toxic relationship can have on the family or loved ones of those who are victims of such relationships. Sometimes you can raise all the alarm bells in the world and it doesn't lead to anything.

Depression is indeed real. Mental health should be given the focus it deserves. Mental health doesn't exist in a vacuum though. I dig how an ex girlfriend's(who he btw had no contact with) apparent engagement can affect him but the one he was living with who was toxic as they come can have no effect on his mental health. Also his family was very much in touch with him in those last few days. One of his sisters lives in the US, one in Delhi , one in Haryana if I'm not wrong and one in Bombay. Since it is Covid time, the one who was in Bombay was there as soon as he reached out. The family you are trying to blame here was the only one who was by his side till the very end.

Since so many here care so much about mental health, it is also extremely important to note that people struggling with mental health issues can be exploited too. It is also important to note that mental health issues can very much be triggered and exacerbated by a toxic environment. It is funny because the convenient narrative here is not the one of abusive relationship. Infact the convenient narrative here that has been used to brush aside every other factor is that of mental health. It's also rather ironic that folks who are talking about it are so dismissive of seeing as to what kind of a relationship Sushant was in with regards to his partner when he passed away. A toxic relationship can destroy your mental health.

To his family this is hardly a charade. To people who genuinely love him and care for him it isn't one. Not to mention there are plenty of folks roaming around freely in this country who are guilty of so many crimes so if this ends up being one of those cases it wouldn't be a shock. Hell there are likes of Salman in this industry who have got away with so much. So if folks here go scott free , it wouldn't be shocking at all. Let's see which way this case goes.

Thanks for the response. Glad you are also a neutral viewer who was shaken up to the untimely passing away. Let me clarify that the mob with blood thirst are part of the justice agenda along with genuine fans and newly woke mental health experts. So there’s a mix of riding waves there

In the whole moral authority of who’s to blame with the options of 1) Toxic relationship 2) efforts from family have one way street of response. The family, given the support from media and fans can put out their side of story and be heard as they are apparently on the side of justice. Toxic relationship will only be judged one way and there’s nothing that Rhea or even any of the old girl friends can mention will lead only to a mob as there is already a written code that evidence stacks against. None of us writing essays here know either the family of Rhea personally but we believe what it is based on our interpretation! All I am asking is don’t hold the gun to one head if all you are seeking is closure and the real cause.

the moral authority of holding the very family that was in Mumbai not accountable as they made their efforts but not holding the same standard for a girlfriend (one of many) is just astounding.
the purity of holding SSR sacrosanct with a vulnerable relationship as an innocent man and putting his latest girlfriend in the witness box with tape on her mouth as we are now driving the verdict first and providing all the evidence that works to suit that is mere hogwash! He was an outsider and so was she. Ankita dealt with her breakup with the very same man and so did Kriti! Do you believe any of them can even attempt to provide info that will not show any light other than positivity and an amazing individual? We would be dragging their feet just like how every message of theirs and their actions and tears are judged.

That’s the reason for requesting sanity from neutral viewers and fans who are unable to overcome this loss. Lead to the truth instead of being led to a convenient one. Don’t let the screaming justices on TV to point fingers of whom to hang on any given day
anybody caring for real justice will want to explore all the possible scenarios beginning with a clean slate of Rubbishing anybody with an opinion that doesn’t suit narrative! Lol for a mental health professional who couldn’t stand the charade but hey let’s applaud the nepotism didn’t break me warrior Kangana and the likes because it works for the justice we are seeking.

With regards to knowing and educating about depression and mental illness, I guess we all could take more help on that one. There is no single standard template that can be a case study and not an overnight solution with meds or a few doctor visits. If this whole social exercise of daily debates have shown something, it is that we will blame everyone and every possible conspiracy theory before the person being unwell. What a sham that this could have been truly a national debate on the effects of depressions and removing the taboo. Acknowledging it would have not made for good TV as what’s the fun if we don’t discuss what the nation wants to know, dictated by the TRP

Acknowledge the man as a human being who could have made mistakes too. Who knows if he was the best boy friend or someone who was not toxic to her. He paid a heavy price and that doesn’t make him a saint and the alternate party a gold digger.

Good luck with your justice cause I believe all the ones who truly love him deserve it! Just that it has to be one for real and not the picture taped to the dartboard in convenience.

P:S - Big fan of the Zindagi Gulzar hai show! Loved your DP

Originally posted by: gima5

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