So we moved on from Mental Health to a debate about Nepotism? - Page 2

Originally posted by: mintyblue

He was suffering from depression which was triggered by feeling left out by the industry. Depression does not come out of nothing. It is caused by sociological factors.

He was systematically boycotted and isolated.

Did he tell this to you personally before passing away? Why can't it be a personal issue? His film was stuck for such a long time, why can't it be that? Everyone is acting like Sushant's unwritten suicide note on social media.

Originally posted by: Khai_R_Haagi

Everybody is just using him for their own agendas, esp idiots like Kangana Ranaut. It took her just five seconds to shift focus from Sushant to herself and her victim crying wolf as usual.

Funny cause Kangana sort of resembles a wolf 🐺

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

It never was about Mental health or even Sushant.. People are just using his death to further their narrative

Is nepotism rampant in the industry? Undoubtedly.. Is KJo the reason behind nepotism gaining more prevelence? Perhaps.. was the industry behavior reason for Sushant's depression and suicide? Maybe..

However, for now, his death should not have been shrouded by assumptions on what triggered his depression.. he was depressed.. that we know for sure.. for now, the focus should have been on creating awareness about mental health instead of using the opportunity to further your narrative..

That is true for some like Kangana Ranaut.

But what about the general audience on Twitter who are trending against nepotism? Do you think they have a narrative to endorse? I don't think so. It's impotent anger and it needs a vent. So, they are settling on those who are the poster-boys and girls of nepotism. It may be a flawed narrative, but it's sincere. I can say that much.

Well I see more as the case of both issues being highlighted!

Mental health awareness is discussed and talked about!

So is Nepotism!

I see nothing wrong in discussing either/or or both! If there's a chance for BW to wake up and smell the coffee, to make it a better system such that tomorrow another SSR doesn't have to face similar alienation, it's worth the effort!

And Mental health awareness is also being spread with many coming out with their stories and support!

The problem I see is with some are trying hard to suppress others from voicing out, being the BW apologists instead of seeing it that the backlash just may save another SSR tomorrow!

And puhlease, there are many of us who are genuinely speaking without any agenda on hand! So move along with your tunnel narration, not interested here!

Originally posted by: mintyblue

That is true for some like Kangana Ranaut.

But what about the general audience on Twitter who are trending against nepotism? Do you think they have a narrative to endorse? I don't think so. It's impotent anger and it needs a vent. So, they are settling on those who are the poster-boys and girls of nepotism. It may be a flawed narrative, but it's sincere. I can say that much.

It could have been sincere but should not have been done using Sushant's death.. if tomorrow another reason comes to light which actually has nothing to do with BW that led to Sushant's depression and suicide, then what?

I am no Alia fan.. Karan dropped Shah the moment he stopped giving hits so it's not like I love the guy.. none of the nepotism guided people are my favs.. my only issue was that Sushant's death is being used based on assumptions.. his death deserved the dignity to not be used to prove any point.. his family deserved to mourn in peace without hearing stories about what led to his depression.. this was not the time to target anyone.. this was the time to understand that everyone has their battles that we know nothing about..

Why not ?

There might have been ten reasons for his mental health, some of them would have been personal and we would never know about them , but out of all reason we know that atleast one reason was nepotism and this is highlighted by himself and his interviews.

Look at answers to nepotism, generally what other outsider says there is , we found it difficult to audition etc. But his give more emphasis on ostracization by the insiders, like they don't invite him to party, they find him boring ,there is no godfather, will be thrown out of industry , also metoo blind by rajeev Masand and his maalik, accusing of sexual harrasment , how much toll would it took on seemingly good guy who is already not struggling.

He called out that their was paid agenda to target him in metoo

"The last thing worth doing is to defend yourself of the fiction created by an agenda. People using this much required campaign for their personal agenda is too much to ignore. "

"I happened to be one of the intentional and strategic casualties. Many paid campaigners were used to give it a burst. I felt bad and misunderstood. The more it gets written about, the more it damages my reputation, which I have worked hard to build"

"I feel sad to reveal personal information but it seems that there is no other way to state what actually happened, in the midst of this curated, well timed and agenda driver smear campaign. From the first day of the shoot till the last day, this is what happened on the sets with Sanjana. Misconduct ? Not at al. Agenda ? You decide,"

Even after his death , Bhatt are already driving their agenda against him.

So yes, it is definitely had impact on his mental health and this is one of only reason we know we should target.

Originally posted by: Pain-in-ur-Neck

Well I see more as the case of both issues being highlighted!

Mental health awareness is discussed and talked about!

So is Nepotism!

I see nothing wrong in discussing either/or or both! If there's a chance for BW to wake up and smell the coffee, to make it a better system such that tomorrow another SSR doesn't have to face similar alienation, it's worth the effort!

And Mental health awareness is also being spread with many coming out with their stories and support!

The problem I see is with some are trying hard to suppress others from voicing out, being the BW apologists instead of seeing it that the backlash just may save another SSR tomorrow!

And puhlease, there are many of us who are genuinely speaking without any agenda on hand! So move along with your tunnel narration, not interested here!

PIUN, thank you girl for writing this. ❤️

It's very easy to say that everyone blaming nepotism is for their personal agenda. It's not. Yes, some are definitely doing it like in every other issue but that doesn't mean every genuine person who is venting out their anger on nepotism is doing the same. Just like one doesn't believe it's because of only nepotism, In the same way, many don't believe that it's only because of his personal issue. It's just a matter of difference of opinions. That's it. So, agenda thing doesn't apply to everyone who is calling out nepotism.

Rest, I don't want to argue with anyone on this.

If people are talking about nepotism, what's the harm?

What is harmful is suppressing a discourse just because it makes someone uncomfortable/uneasy.

What is harmful is perpetuating the myth that depression exists in isolation, without trigger points.

What is harmful is to proclaim that the only ‘debate’ to be had is on depression.

You don’t ‘debate’ whether nepotism is ‘that serious’ or other stupid points.

Originally posted by: Renee.Clare

PIUN, thank you girl for writing this. ❤️

Areee koi naa! I am sick of holier than tho namunes anyways. Ek toh khud are keeping mum and upar se want others to keep mum too!

The backlash may or may not work and things may go back to as is, but you know what I rather people try so there is at least some glimpse for the toxic system to change!

Many don't want these wanna be BW Mafia to face the heat. Kyu bhai?! Tomorrow you'll say a terrorist doesn't deserve the backlash either, what if he commits suicide! 🤪 Culprits have to face the consequences of their actions one way or other.

Many not speaking against the obvious issues and keeping mum are also part of the problem. There have been many revolutions and changes that took place over that "one death" which made the difference. So who knows. I am not losing my hope that things will go back as they were!

I'll walk along thinking Sushant's death is that trigger which may make a difference for many like him in future!

Ofc I don't agree with tagging anyone a murderer without evidence, but blindsiding the obvious nepotism, cronyism, elitists insiders and their bullying isn't my cup of tea nor do I think others should try to suppress those who are willing to take a stand!