Maya's miscarriage accident or deliberate?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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So I saw the scene where Maya falls down the stairs today and the way the scene was shown there is a very high probability that Maya purposely fell down the stairs after hearing Arjun's voice. But then again till they actually say that Maya did it purposely, there is always a possibility that it was an accident. The focus on Maya's feet could be due to the following 2 reasons:

1. To show the audience that Maya was deliberately moving towards the edge of the stairs and purposely fell
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2. To show the audience how Maya was unintentionally moving towards the edge of the stairs in her attempt to stop Vandana and how there was an impending danger that she could fall.

Her pause on hearing Arjun's voice and then subsequent fall can also be explained in 2 ways:

1. She pauses on hearing Arjun's voice and then deliberately falls to distract him
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2. She hears Arjun's voice, pauses, turns towards him and since she was already at the edge of the stairs she accidentally slips and falls down.

Honestly, after seeing the scene twice I can say that both scenarios are equally plausible. This being "Maya" people do tend to believe that it's scenario 1 but the CVs can very well say it's scenario 2 as well.

Also, Maya killing her own child just to stop Vandana from telling Arjun the truth does not logically make any sense because:

1. It has been highlighted time and again that the baby is the only thing keeping Arjun-Maya's relationship afloat. Maya knows that the one thing binding her to Arjun is this baby. Why in the world would she think that killing the child is going to help her keep Arjun to herself? If anything, losing the child increases the chance of Arjun leaving her.

2. Vandana is still very much alive and capable of telling Arjun the truth. How is the child dying going to stop Vandana from revealing the truth to Arjun? Yes, Arjun will be temporarily distracted by the grief of losing the child and he maybe angry at Vandana but eventually Vandana can always tell him what she saw.

3. Ayaan is still alive (Maya knows that) so whether the baby is alive or not he can always tell Arjun the truth.

4. If Maya's plan is to use this as an excuse to kill Vandana and then to kill Ayaan to shut them up then what makes her think that Arjun will still believe her and be with her after losing his baby, brother and mother? If all of them just drop dead one after the other won't Arjun suspect that she is behind all this?? Again there is nothing holding him back this time, now that the baby is gone and she has no leverage over him.

5. Falling from the stairs does not guarantee that the baby will die. Baby could have survived but suffered permanent damage. What would she have done if that would have happened and if the doctors would have saved the baby.

From the story point of view Maya deliberately killing the baby does not make sense. As per the spoilers doing the rounds, the loss of the baby drives Maya even more insane and she goes on a rampage against Vandana and probably even Arjun to get her revenge. Again if that is true, then that is only possible if Maya is genuinely grieving the loss of her child and then blames Vandana (for indirectly being responsible for the fall and hence according to Maya for killing the baby) and Arjun ( for leaving her after she lost the kid).

Maya seeking revenge from Vandana and Arjun when she herself killed the baby is stupid and illogical. What does she want revenge for then??

I think the episodes this week and Maya's reaction should hopefully help clarify which way the CVs want to go with this. Whatever they chose to show I hope they have a logical explanation for everything.
Edited by sweetshruti - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago
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honestly both the scenarios are plausible, l also watched the scene twice just like you did to see if I missed anything the first time but no anything can hold true and I have no idea what they plan to do in the future with the show coz all I see is a big black hole..this week's episodes will clear up a lot of stuff like you mentioned and also will decide that how long can they stretch the show. I am not sure if they are still planning to air it for 260 episode or wind it up soon, we will find out soon I guess but I also want a logical explanation for everything but I guess thats asking for too much..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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There was this dialogue earlier in S2, where Maya calls her baby her jaan, and Arjun her pyaar, and says that to get pyaar, jaan le bhi sakti hoon, aur de bhi sakti hoon.

That IMO is precisely what has happened.

Maya has sacrificed the child to keep ArYa relationship afloat. It was a split second decision she made when she saw Arjun on the scene and no way to stop VM from telling everything to Arjun.

Why in the world would she think that killing the child is going to help her keep Arjun to herself?

That's easy- Arjun responds to emotional blackmail well. He will stay with her out of compassion and guilt, if not love, but more importantly for Maya, he will stay.

but eventually Vandana can always tell him what she saw

Saanjh knew everything at the end of S1 that it was Maya who orchestrated the Bhaang plan, but could she tell Arjun? No.

Something similar happened at the end of S1 and Arjun wasn't even willing to listen to her when he banished her. He didn't bother to hear about the evidence regarding Ayaan as well.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Kruti.S-

honestly both the scenarios are plausible, l also watched the scene twice just like you did to see if I missed anything the first time but no anything can hold true and I have no idea what they plan to do in the future with the show coz all I see is a big black hole..this week's episodes will clear up a lot of stuff like you mentioned and also will decide that how long can they stretch the show. I am not sure if they are still planning to air it for 260 episode or wind it up soon, we will find out soon I guess but I also want a logical explanation for everything but I guess thats asking for too much..


Yeah at the speed at which they are going it almost looks like the show is about to wind up soon. Or the other option is that they have a lot of story left and just realized that they don't have much time remaining and so are moving forward at breakneck speed. Either way we should know soon.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Though I like Maya's character but I think miscarriage will turn out to be a deliberate attempt...
When Ayaan was instigating Maya against Arjun-Sanjh and her own child she uttered a very meaningful dialogue

" No knot can keep two people together when they don't love each other and no knot is needed to keep two people together when they love each other"

When there is no love left in any relationship two people can't be together because of any reason be it their child when people love each other they can stay together without any child or any other reason...

ArYa are together because they love each other...(though I don't like ArYa)

Maya is not the kind of person who will risk her baby's life by the fear of revelation of her truth as she can twist any situation in her favor...she can manipulate Arjun well...Maya might have deliberately slipped to test Arjun's love for her...Though afterwards she might put entire blame of it on VM...If Arjun will leave her after miscarriage she might take revenge from Arjun for not loving her...or for breaking her trust...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: aekiel

There was this dialogue earlier in S2, where Maya calls her baby her jaan, and Arjun her pyaar, and says that to get pyaar, jaan le bhi sakti hoon, aur de bhi sakti hoon.

That IMO is precisely what has happened.

Maya has sacrificed the child to keep ArYa relationship afloat. It was a split second decision she made when she saw Arjun on the scene and no way to stop VM from telling everything to Arjun.

Why in the world would she think that killing the child is going to help her keep Arjun to herself?

That's easy- Arjun responds to emotional blackmail well. He will stay with her out of compassion and guilt, if not love, but more importantly for Maya, he will stay.

but eventually Vandana can always tell him what she saw

Saanjh knew everything at the end of S1 that it was Maya who orchestrated the Bhaang plan, but could she tell Arjun? No.

Something similar happened at the end of S1 and Arjun wasn't even willing to listen to her when he banished her. He didn't bother to hear about the evidence regarding Ayaan as well.


@Bold Red - How??? Arjun made it clear to Maya at the end of S2 that he cared about the baby more than he cared about her. Ayaan / Vandana all reiterated the fact that Arjun is with her ONLY for the baby. Maya herself says a dialogue in the first episode of S3 where she says that she would have died (in the end of S2) if Arjun's life (the baby) was not dependent on her life. All this indicates that she KNOWS that the baby is the one thing keeping Arjun tied to her. And Arjun seems to be over the "staying with Maya out of compassion phase".

And let's say Arjun does stay with her out of guilt, pity, compassion etc, what about when Vandana / Ayaan tells him the truth?? Like I said, they are still alive.

@ Bold Blue - The bhaang case was different: a) It din't cause in lasting damage other than pissing off Suman. Suman was angry at Saanjh for a while but then that was it. b) That incident din't make any difference to Arjun as such. Even if Saanjh would have told Arjun that Maya added bhaang to their drink don't know if that would have made a big difference to him. Maya could have said that she din't know that the glass had bhaang.
What did break the Arjun-Saanjh relationship then was the miscarriage that was caused seemingly by Saanjh. According to Saanjh she DID unintentionally cause the miscarriage so when Arjun banished her for that, there was nothing much she could say against it. They have not clarified yet if Maya deliberately fell then, so that's an open question too.

As far as Ayaan's case is concerned, Maya posed as Ayaan's victim there. She had all the evidence in place to prove that Ayaan did indeed attempt to rape her. Plus Arjun heard Ayaan mouth those words and hence that lent some credibility to what Maya was saying. And to add to that Saanjh accused Maya without any concrete evidence. So everything was heavily in Maya's favor.

In this case Ayaan is the victim and if he says that Maya ran over him then Arjun has no option but to believe him. Vandana saw Maya wash the blood from her clothes. So again, Arjun can choose not to believe her but then again he can't really ask her to prove that she saw Maya in the bathroom that day. Plus Arjun is a lot more aware of the extend of Maya's madness now, so there is nothing stopping him from believing Ayaan and Vandana.

Another point that supports the theory of this being genuine is Vandana's shraap that Maya will suffer for trying to kill her (Vandana's) baby. Aneri also said in her IV that Maya was getting payback from the universe for the crimes that she has done. So they seem to be posing this as God's way of punishing Maya for what she did to Ayaan and everyone else.

That being said, it is definitely possible that they show that this is Maya's doing but then again I just see huge logical errors if they go down that road.

Edited by sweetshruti - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Maya in these circumstances had no option in order to have arjun hooked to herself. If vandana spoke and showed those foot prints of blood which is something maya doesn't want. There was no alternative to maya. She had said that baby is jaan and arjun is pyaar and she can give up jaan to keep her Pyar. So from when she heard arjun is already behind she jumped. If u notice when arjun came maya and Vandana became still. Maya thought something. Then jumped. She dint fall while struggling with vandana. She also dint fall while turning to see arjun. She just put her foot behind and the fall. Vandana and saanjh think it's her punishment through God. Maya won't be able be to have arjun even after killing her baby and then her dangerous plan that is story heading gone gal way.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Killing the child will not ensure that Arjun stays with her , but it can serve two vital purposes :
1.) It will momentarily divert the blame from her ( of mistrusting Arjun for which he was pissed with her and the bigger blame of trying to kill Ayaan) to Vandy/Saanjh.. Arjun was already pissed with Saanjh for letting Vandy know about her doubts ( which was dumb btw) and now he saw Vandy kind of in a scuffle/argument with his pregnant wife.. Now he will not listen to either of them.. he will blame them for this accident.. He also heard Vandy cursing Maya n their child right? ( dint see that bit myself )..

2.) This incident will also give time to Maya to deal with Ayaan.. they are in the same hospital.. she is very well capable of finishing the job she couldn't earlier... I know Maya didn't choose to be in that hospital..but maybe there's a reason they were admitted to the same hospital.. Ayaan is the only proof now.. if she manages to finish him off.. job done for her.. I have a feeling she will attempt to kill him..

I think she took a calculated risk.. ( point 5 from your post ).. It can't be a coincidence that everytime she faces the risk of getting exposed ( by Saanjh earlier and now Vandy ), she suffers a miscarriage.. Also, even if she said it in a flow without much thinking, there's a reason why that dialogue was incorporated '' mein kisi ko bhi mere aur Arjun ke ich nahi ane dungi - bachhe ko bhi nahi'' The promo also hinted in that direction..

Don't put so much faith on Arjun😆 He has blamed his family before.. now he's shattered.. Maya's traumatized state, his own personal pain.. I don't think he will be able to look past this loss anytime soon..




Edited by MistyDawn - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Whatever the mode of Mayas miscarriage be it accidental or deliberate ,the only purpose I feel of cvs to show that track is to remove all sorts of connections between arjun and maya ... (I am assuming here that cvs want to head the story towards maya paying for her deeds)

The way CVS have previously shown arjuns character till now that he was initially joru ka gulaam cum puppet cum dog and then ultimately this affection diverting from maya towards their baby , so the only way they can now show arjun going absolutely against maya is their official link - in her womb being abolished forever with miscarriage.
- This will be that ultimate trick which will separate arjun from maya forever and disconnect them completely as indirectly though Arjun did confess in one of S3 episodes that he doesnt love Maya anymore and he is indeed with her only for the baby.

And arjun has always been giving deaf ears to everyone regarding Mayas evil truth.. so there is a meager chance that he will believe AYANs or vandys testimony again . Also if the baby was alive arjun would have remained hooked to maya even if he knew Ayans truth.

Again had this baby been alive they can never show maya paying for her deeds (as reiterated in many upcoming beyhadh story videos that maya will now be paying for her evils ). And the best way maya pays for her deeds is she loses arjun forever .Because losing baby means losing arjun


Edited by Jameela786 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Story can go anyway and we can have assumption whether Maya did it or not but I love the fact that you have put across 2 possibilities. Otherwise, some people here in their blind hate toward Maya, have already decided that it was a deliberate attempt without looking at the other possibilities.

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