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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Killing the child will not ensure that Arjun stays with her , but it can serve two vital purposes :

1.) It will momentarily divert the blame from her ( of mistrusting Arjun for which he was pissed with her and the bigger blame of trying to kill Ayaan) to Vandy/Saanjh.. Arjun was already pissed with Saanjh for letting Vandy know about her doubts ( which was dumb btw) and now he saw Vandy kind of in a scuffle/argument with his pregnant wife.. Now he will not listen to either of them.. he will blame them for this accident.. He also heard Vandy cursing Maya n their child right? ( dint see that bit myself )..

2.) This incident will also give time to Maya to deal with Ayaan.. they are in the same hospital.. she is very well capable of finishing the job she couldn't earlier... I know Maya didn't choose to be in that hospital..but maybe there's a reason they were admitted to the same hospital.. Ayaan is the only proof now.. if she manages to finish him off.. job done for her.. I have a feeling she will attempt to kill him..

I think she took a calculated risk.. ( point 5 from your post ).. It can't be a coincidence that everytime she faces the risk of getting exposed ( by Saanjh earlier and now Vandy ), she suffers a miscarriage.. Also, even if she said it in a flow without much thinking, there's a reason why that dialogue was incorporated '' mein kisi ko bhi mere aur Arjun ke ich nahi ane dungi - bachhe ko bhi nahi'' The promo also hinted in that direction..

Don't put so much faith on Arjun😆 He has blamed his family before.. now he's shattered.. Maya's traumatized state, his own personal pain.. I don't think he will be able to look past this loss anytime soon..





I completely get what your saying and this is what will be the explanation if they chose to go down the "Maya deliberately caused the miscarriage" route.

My issue with this route, other than what I stated in my post is:

a) This will be the stupidest and most self harming plan Maya has ever made. All of Maya's crimes have been basically committed for the one purpose of ensuring that her relationship with Arjun remains intact. She has endured temporary pain to herself for the larger goal of tying Arjun to herself. In this case she might have momentarily gained Arjun's sympathy and trust but by losing the baby she has for a long term lost the one thing binding her and Arjun together and lost the one reason Arjun has for staying with her. She only losses in the long run with this.

b) This will be a repeat of what we saw in the end of S1. Maya has a miscarriage, Arjun blames VM/Saanjh, Arjun believes Maya over everyone, Maya has another victory, everyone else is helpless 🤢. How many times will we see the same thing??? I would think (atleast hope) that they would do something different this time round, now that the show is in its final phase. Maya atleast now will start experience actual losses. Also, as per the spoilers Maya becomes even more psychotic after the loss. This makes sense only if she actually grieves the loss of the baby and not if she herself killed her baby.

Anyway let's see the way they take the story forward. I don't expect a lot of logic from them so whatever they do I just hope they give a satisfactory and somewhat logical explanation.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetshruti


I completely get what your saying and this is what will be the explanation if they chose to go down the "Maya deliberately caused the miscarriage" route.

My issue with this route, other than what I stated in my post is:

a) This will be the stupidest and most self harming plan Maya has ever made. All of Maya's crimes have been basically committed for the one purpose of ensuring that her relationship with Arjun remains intact. She has endured temporary pain to herself for the larger goal of tying Arjun to herself. In this case she might have momentarily gained Arjun's sympathy and trust but by losing the baby she has for a long term lost the one thing binding her and Arjun together and lost the one reason Arjun has for staying with her. She only losses in the long run with this.

b) This will be a repeat of what we saw in the end of S1. Maya has a miscarriage, Arjun blames VM/Saanjh, Arjun believes Maya over everyone, Maya has another victory, everyone else is helpless 🤢. How many times will we see the same thing??? I would think (atleast hope) that they would do something different this time round, now that the show is in its final phase. Maya atleast now will start experience actual losses. Also, as per the spoilers Maya becomes even more psychotic after the loss. This makes sense only if she actually grieves the loss of the baby and not if she herself killed her baby.

Anyway let's see the way they take the story forward. I don't expect a lot of logic from them so whatever they do I just hope they give a satisfactory and somewhat logical explanation.

I agree it is very self harming plan! But did she not try something similar to this once before? Like attempting to jump from the height when Arjun abandoned her briefly after Maya had killed Samay!
Maya takes desperate measures at desperate times!
Is it also stupid? For a moment, if she hesitated what would have happened there? Maya staying alive with her child is no doubt, a big relief to Arjun! But then,what will he say if he happened to see blood stains in his house?
He can dismiss Saanjh's doubts on Maya! He can ignore Vandana's hysteria as biased! He can still believe only his wife's version! But, what if surviving Ayaan recovers to give testimony against Maya? What if Vandana calls police to lodge complain against Maya? The blood samples will lead to Maya's immediate arrest & Bandar will be born only in Jail, whether Arjun likes it or not!

Maya thought through her options under this tight situation & chose to buy some time now, taking a huge risk! She will need time to think it out in hospital bed & plan her next move! Very similar to what she did when she was planning to stop ayaan's video through Samay by staying in touch with him, while she was supposedly undergoing treatment after her aborted plan to kill Saanjh with her gun!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: sweetshruti


I completely get what your saying and this is what will be the explanation if they chose to go down the "Maya deliberately caused the miscarriage" route.

My issue with this route, other than what I stated in my post is:

a) This will be the stupidest and most self harming plan Maya has ever made. All of Maya's crimes have been basically committed for the one purpose of ensuring that her relationship with Arjun remains intact. She has endured temporary pain to herself for the larger goal of tying Arjun to herself. In this case she might have momentarily gained Arjun's sympathy and trust but by losing the baby she has for a long term lost the one thing binding her and Arjun together and lost the one reason Arjun has for staying with her. She only losses in the long run with this.

b) This will be a repeat of what we saw in the end of S1. Maya has a miscarriage, Arjun blames VM/Saanjh, Arjun believes Maya over everyone, Maya has another victory, everyone else is helpless 🤢. How many times will we see the same thing??? I would think (atleast hope) that they would do something different this time round, now that the show is in its final phase. Maya atleast now will start experience actual losses. Also, as per the spoilers Maya becomes even more psychotic after the loss. This makes sense only if she actually grieves the loss of the baby and not if she herself killed her baby.

Anyway let's see the way they take the story forward. I don't expect a lot of logic from them so whatever they do I just hope they give a satisfactory and somewhat logical explanation.


Yes.. I agree Shruti.. I hadn't prejudged Maya before I saw the actual episode.. And the way they showed the accident , it seems like they want to keep it open like they did the previous time.. For me, the last split second reaction just when she heard Vandana scream Arjun's name, her panic stricken look and the way she had positioned herself also made me doubt her.. She was blocking Arjun's view .. If we closely look, there is always a pattern.. she will create a confrontation and then come out as the ''bigger'' victim.. Otherwise what was she thinking .. ? she tried to kill her son.. Was she expecting she will forgive her and will melt just like that? Her pleadings sounded empty of emotions, hollow and irritating after a point..

Secondly, the show is approaching its final phase and I guess that's why we are seeing Maya get so sloppy with her planning and execution.. People around Maya are not gonna get any smarter so they have started showing Maya getting dumb..how else will they show her downfall? the way she dealt with Samay.. exposing her vulnerabilities so easily infront of Ayaan.. not being able to finish him off.. if you's that gruesome, go all the way na? Washing blood stains in washroom with door open? confessing and pleading infront of Vandana was so pointless.. Now this... losing the baby is the biggest risk she has taken..Earlier she was able to tie him down with emotional blackmail, suicide and all.. now in this moment of grief, there's no way he will leave her.. To add to that, she has turned him against Vandy and Saanjh.. I don't know if he will believe Ayaan.. This is duffer we are talking about..he comes up with the most ridiculous explanations.. Remember, the theory he gave for Maya trying to shoot Vandy and Saanjh.. ? Yes, that time he was concerned for the baby..this time maybe it will be Maya's physical and emotional state.. he always finds a reason to stick with her..right or wrong..


That being said, this is just my interpretation and I could be wrong.. I loved the way you have balanced your posts and put forth both theories with good logic and reasoning..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn


Did you see today's episode?? After seeing Maya's reaction and the subsequent chain of events, I think they are moving towards this being an accident and not a deliberate attempt by Maya. Like I said, Arjun has no reason to stay with Maya and he told Maya exactly that. Also, like I said Arjun has no reason to believe Maya over everyone else anymore and that's exactly what seems to be happening. Also, Ayaan does not seem to be on Maya's mind at all so getting proximity to Ayaan cannot be the reason for her deliberate fall.

For now it looks like this is an accident, but they are capable of turning this around again tomorrow. So lets see.

What are your thoughts on today's episode?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think today's episode sort of proved that Maya did not do this deliberately. It may also be that saanjh was the reason for her first miscarriage aswell.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ayaan survival has obliterated Maya's crime and Bandar's demise turned the tables!
Arjun's U -turn will get reversed when Maya's fake death happens next!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beyhadfan

I think today's episode sort of proved that Maya did not do this deliberately. It may also be that saanjh was the reason for her first miscarriage aswell.


Today's episode did make it seem like Maya did not do this intentionally. Let's see what they show tomorrow.

As far as the first miscarriage is concerned, they have not yet mentioned even once that Maya faked her pregnancy and/or miscarriage. So till they show that we have to just assume that was genuine as well.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Fernandes43

Ayaan survival has obliterated Maya's crime and Bandar's demise turned the tables!
Arjun's U -turn will get reversed when Maya's fake death happens next!


I completely felt for Arjun today. His outburst was long due. But this being Arjun, who knows how long this will last. Like you said, for all you know, when Maya fake "dies", he might be guilt ridden again and will probably realize that he still "loved" Maya deep down.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Shruti - Yah saw today's episode.. One of those rare episodes where I could connect with Arjun's character.. i could feel his frustration and anger at everyone around him.. Imagine living with a woman like Maya , losing a baby in such a terrible way just a month before delivery, brother in ICU, mother and wife at each other's throats, blaming and cursing, filing police complaint.. there's only so much one can take, especially at such a delicate time.. These are not normal conditions and so its wishful to expect normal reactions.. He was barely over Ayaan's accident, when this tragedy hit him head on out of nowhere.. people do tend to lose it and end up blaming everyone around including the almighty for the misery they are in.. I'm sure in his heart he knows his mother will never want to curse his child.. If he hadn't heard Vandy cursing Maya and indirectly the baby, maybe he wouldn't have uttered those words.. I don't blame Vandana at all..infact I feel for her .. one son in ICU and other one blaming her for killing his child.. I din't understand what Saanjh meant when she said ''Aunty apki galti ke karan Arjun ne apna bacha khoya'' .. what galti? Did she believe/assume that Vandy accidently push Maya? Infact, if you ask me, I feel Saanjh could have avoided telling Vandy about her doubts on the phone.. that was a galti.. Vandana did nothing wrong.. but she will have to pay the price.. unfortunately.
Precap- Maya's look was quite something..

Now about the miscarriage, I think I'l hold on to what I said earlier for a while.. during that whole rape fiasco thing , Maya was thinking about that incident.. traumatized and shaken and the fact that Ayaan was drunk and angry with her , made me trust Maya's side of the story though I knew she exaggerated and staged but I thought it went out of her hand because Ayaan was drunk.. Now in this case, Maya was standing on the edge of the stairs so it is possible that she lost her balance and slipped.. but the panic look on her face, her position blocking Arjun's view and the timing is what is making me doubtful.. Also, post a miscarriage you'd think a woman will be completely shattered , mentally, physically, emotionally , to even think beyond her baby .. like she was behaving when grabbing someone else's child.. like Arjun is behaving.. But Maya? she even found time amidst all this tragedy to file a police complain.. repeatedly saying punish Vandana for killing our baby.. makes me wonder if this huge risk/loss she has put herself and Arjun through is a diversionary tactic..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetshruti


I completely felt for Arjun today. His outburst was long due. But this being Arjun, who knows how long this will last. Like you said, for all you know, when Maya fake "dies", he might be guilt ridden again and will probably realize that he still "loved" Maya deep down.


Agree With Both Of U ...



Wrt Arjuns Character , I Now Wonder, Is Kushal Tandon Really Happy With The One He Is Playing? His Role-Play Is The Most Dubious One. He Has Never Been Showed As Focused On His Own Povs .. He Is Like Bina Pende Ka Lauta .. A totally fluctuating personality without any spine and Always Swaying From Here To There Without Any Decision Making Power .

We Have Seen Saanjh Who Has Suffered Lot Of The Wrath From The Viewers (Mayas Fans) , Despite That, Aneri Seems To Be Quiet Happy With Her Role - I Say This As She Has Been Consistently Playing A Particular Kind Of ('Positive' For Me) Character.

And Obv Maya Who Is The Evil Character , Who Also Received Her Share Of Hatred From A Section Of The Viewers , Jenny Seems To Be Fully Satisfied With Her Portrayal (Despite Being "Negative'') In The Show .

I Feel That The Actors Do Have Some Right To Decide On the Script What Role They Can Play , Negative Or Positive. They do have a choice to judge whether Or not to do a Kind of Character. Thats Why It Seems That Kushal Tandon Is Confused Or he May be really loving the way it is , Or It May Just Be Possible Here That The Ball Is Totally In Cvs Court ..

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