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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: itzMYattitude



he said tumhara bhai because he was making a point.
for example lets suppose a child's life is saved by a stranger. But instead of saying thanks mother will start accusing him. The father will say "Dont say that he saved the life of your child".
Now will u complain why he didn't said "Dont say that he saved the life ofourchild"? like he is noone to the father?
i cant pour my thoughts properly but hope this makes sense😆



Thankyouuu for this. I wanted to convey the same but was kinda put-off with the whole shivaay bashing abd didn't want to inflict their opinions on me.
Totally agree with you. This happens all the time at my place, my mom scolds my dad all the time because of my attitude problem, telling him to control 'his' daughter. 😆
Also, i think here Shivaay was trying to get Annika on his side by providing to what seems like a reason to not believe nayantara; by saying, " tumhare bhai ko kidnap kiya, maarne ki koshish ki'
Edited by tanhawalaswaron - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Lovely analysis and enjoyed it very much.
Similarly when Annika told Shivaay that his mother is the one who has brought NT in the house, his reaction was of disbelief and dismissal. I don't think he thinks Annika is doing this deliberately, but he does think she's mistaken. My mom cannot take away the love of my life. When Shivaay finds out the truth, I hope Annika is by his side to support him, the poor man's very foundation is going to be shaken so badly.


perfectly natural reactions from a man who respects his mother and can never think the worst of her, knowing her as he does, her vitriol that she pours when she is upset. But for his mom to stoop to this level is a hard act to accept but then his brain will eventually figure it out when the facts are laid out before him. He is going to be shaken deeply and distressed to learn that his mom was behind NT.

I am glad Annika chose to inform Shivaay about pinky rather than keep it a secret. This is what a husband wife relationship should be, openness and honesty. It is a trust of a lifetime. I shudder to think of when he finds out Annika did his DNA test with Mahi!!! Eeeps!!

Thankfully Anika plucked up the courage to say Pinky was the culprit and she is aware of the hurt and denial Shivaay would be going through. She might be at the receiving end of his anger, might say something to regret...forgetting the promise he made to himself.

What a showdown between Jhanvi and pinky!!! Love love love jhanvi for standing by her DIL and telling pinky off. And the reason for pinky's retaliation was clear. She doesn't want to hear that shivaay is so happy with his wife

This was too good, back after ages, the bickering and the taunts of Pinky. She is back to her old ways and open disdain of the babus. Loved how Jhanvi is supporting her bahus. wish everyone had heard the acidic words of Pinky and it would have become clearer... no need to dig for the truth.

Omki shomki urf nandi the bail, needs to calm down a bit. Always jumping down his wife's throat!! Wonder if bua ma intended to spike his milk to put him in a romantic mood or if her irada was more sinister!!! Only time will tell.

Om is such a Nandi.. and Gauri was good in the drunken act... drove home a few points. He is now trapped in this marriage... like Shivika were and the close proximity of sharing a room will bring about a change in him. HE has judged and found her GUILTY and pronounced the sentence too without bothering to read the facts. Such a huge mistake on his part, for someone who prides on living Truthfully and hating Lies. Cant wait to see his Tai Tai Phiss...where Gauri is concerned. He is attracted to her and hates himself more for it, blaming Gauri for being in his life.

- DID NOT like the new FL opposite Rudra. I mean cry baby?!! Really? Rudra already was one, why are we getting another?! Soumya, pl come back from Australia. RumYa was such a beautiful pairing in this country obsessed with outward appearances. I wish the CVs and the channel had the guts to go ahead with that track.

I just FF the whole intro scene..am not interested in seeing Lee make a cake of himself over this new girl...ugghhh...bring back Sumo and will watch or his scenes with the family. Neha is not out, she may be back after a short stint at Australia, enough to drive Rudy crazy with longing.

Shivaay has to deal with his NKK and see his world come crashing down around his ears. It is going to be tough but with Anika at his side, it is going to be bearable.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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It's obviously to fuel their next conflict, but still I'm shocked that she told him. That against the SP bahu rules 😆
LOL Anika did tell Sahil during their dost conversation he was just being nice about the family comment. She is ALWAYS right not to trust him 😆

Everyone would believe their mom and she doesn't have any proof. It's her word against his moms. The more she plots it will make the reveal even more fun. She won't be kicked out or anything but at least her real face will be exposed.
Edited by onlyrani - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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You and Asya have pretty much said all there is to say on the matter. I think that there is another reason for the Pinky-Jhanvi showdown!! It was imperative that Jhanvi know and see Pinky's resentment and the depth of her hatred for Annika first hand. Shivvay and Jhanvi share a great rapport and Shivvay respects his badi ma very much. It will be Jhanvi that will burst Shivvay blind trust and faith in his mom. Jhanvi is not afraid to speak her mind, and she has in the past advised and cautioned Shivvay on his decisions (his rush to marry Tia post him sleeping in Annika's lap). She will again step in and Shivvay will have to listen to what she says and then examine all of the information he has in front of him! I think this will be more impactful and Jhanvi will be more inclined to talk to Shivvay if there is a separation between Shivika!! I am not yet convinced that the separation will occur...but there are chances...curious to see how it will play out!!! As for the Kameeni, ACP, Maahi nonsense track...I have no idea how they will bring it to fruition in a semi logical way!!! Alas... That's enough of my rambling!!!!
Edited by --Nargis-- - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rainqraz

...The next step towards redemption will be to find out that he isn't actually an Oberoi. Only then will his issues with "mother of my children" and the whole NKK thought process crash down.


Nice post, liked how you perceived each of those scenes.

I too loved that "discussion" between Jhanvi & Pinky, what a contrast they are!

As for the bits in blue above, I hope Shivaay's NKK thinking will dissipate and be out the window before he finds out he isn't an Oberoi. That's the only way it will truly be an abolishing of such prejudice. If he only absolves Anika of the need for NKK because he does not have it, it would mean the NKK is still present ie Anika would then be on the same level as him.

In fact I am praying that Shivaay not being an Oberoi is just a rumour and never comes true. It would erode the attraction of the tadibaaz SSO if he is a commoner. After all, I don't watch Ishqbaaz to just see my ordinary everyday life playing out on the small screen 😊


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: darkangel93

Amazing post! Of course Shivaay's shock and blatant dismissal of Anika's claims is justified. In his eyes, Anika is accusing his mother. A woman who he knows has loved him more than anything in the world, fiercely and obsessively protected him from anything and everything she thought was a danger to him. He has no idea the levels her obsession has reached. Shivaay knows for a fact that his mother doesn't approve of Anika, but never in his wildest dreams can he imagine her to be so selfish in her love that she'd try to ruin his happiness just to get back her own sense of security. He probably feels that Pinky will eventually accept Anika and just plans to wait it out. So his anger and disbelief is a normal reaction almost anyone would have, in such a situation.

Also, I feel a divorce is almost impossible at this point of time. It would blow up all the progress shivika have made and it just doesn't make sense. I agree, a separation now would render whatever we have seen since Tia's ouster meaningless, esp in the last two months.
Separation might be a possibility but not a divorce. Unless, the writers want to 'do it for the trp'.

I hated the new FL. Her face. Her expressions. Her voice. Her eyebrows. Everything about her gave me major michmichis. Why oh why did they end RuMya?! Come back, Sumo! We all love you and we need you to come back and bicker with your dumbbell Oberoi! 😒

I'm extremely disappointed with the way Omkara's character is being handled in dbo. It breaks my heart. I think Gauri needs a bit of family history to understand Om also. How Jhanvi tried to burn herself, how the Thakurain (with the same name) did the same. Why Om hates her? And I was hopeful Kali Thakur's return would bring Gauri's truth before Om but that didn't happen. They havent yet shown KT dead, so you never know!!!
Today's episode just depressed me in a weird way.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: asya34

Edited by rainqrazy - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Nargis--

You and Asya have pretty much said all there is to say on the matter. I think that there is another reason for the Pinky-Jhanvi showdown!! It was imperative that Jhanvi know and see Pinky's resentment and the depth of her hatred for Annika first hand. Shivvay and Jhanvi share a great rapport and Shivvay respects his badi ma very much. It will be Jhanvi that will burst Shivvay blind trust and faith in his mom. Jhanvi is not afraid to speak her mind, and she has in the past advised and cautioned Shivvay on his decisions (his rush to marry Tia post him sleeping in Annika's lap). She will again step in and Shivvay will have to listen to what she says and then examine all of the information he has in front of him! I think this will be more impactful and Jhanvi will be more inclined to talk to Shivvay if there is a separation between Shivika!! I am not yet convinced that the separation will occur...but there are chances...curious to see how it will play out!!! As for the Kameeni, ACP, Maahi nonsense track...I have no idea how they will bring it to fruition in a semi logical way!!! Alas... That's enough of my rambling!!!!


I completely agree with you! Shivaay has always listened to Jhanvi. She will bring him to face the truth if he takes some stupid decision (or at least she will give him advice, if he (either alone or acting in concert with his wife) plays out some nautanki drama which everyone but Pinky will be against. Such as a separation!! I dont think any true separation is happening, that would be counter productive to the last two months of Ishqbaazi!!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shanry


Nice post, liked how you perceived each of those scenes.

I too loved that "discussion" between Jhanvi & Pinky, what a contrast they are!

As for the bits in blue above, I hope Shivaay's NKK thinking will dissipate and be out the window before he finds out he isn't an Oberoi. That's the only way it will truly be an abolishing of such prejudice. If he only absolves Anika of the need for NKK because he does not have it, it would mean the NKK is still present ie Anika would then be on the same level as him.

In fact I am praying that Shivaay not being an Oberoi is just a rumour and never comes true. It would erode the attraction of the tadibaaz SSO if he is a commoner. After all, I don't watch Ishqbaaz to just see my ordinary everyday life playing out on the small screen 😊



You are right. He should actually be an Oberoi (even if just a half, through Shakti that is). He should accept Annika as she is not because he doesnt have NKK but inspite of that!!

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