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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice post Zoya!! Good to c ur post after a long time..i hope u had lovely vacation..as it is till yesterday there was nothing in the episodes that deserve ur write up so u r back on right time i would say..

Yes shagun has always tried to be like ishita and thats where she went wrong..she never created her own place but tried to fill in for her by going in self sacrificing mode and what is not yours since begining u can never rightfully claim it to be urs anyway...if she wanted and been herself then she cld have married manoj and took care of pihu as Maasi which is more than a mother for pihu..bhallas took care of ruhi who was motherless for good 6 years before ishita..and they cld have done it with pihu too and this time they also had raman on their side..if shagun would have done that then she would have earned a lot more respect from my side..because she was never over compensating and was always selfish..

Coming to IshRa we all go berserk as we have not seen any confrontation between them but i feel they somehow dnt need any.. Because they both know they were wrong..ishita was wrong in running away and raman was wrong in spitting that venom..and they both know the other one knows it..ishita took all of his anger till pihu's hospital incident as she knew she wronged him..and thats the reason his drunk confession was shown..to make her realise that he is all alone without her..they always try to overcompensate to each other through their actions rather than saying sorry..and if u see ruhi is no different she also wants to redoo all her misdoings to ishita by bringing her close to pihu but she hasnt said sorry to her neither did she hug her yet..thats how their personalities are..they go for confrontations only when the things really go haywire and are out of hand..else they just prefer making other realise that they are sorry for whatever happened and other one ackowledges the efforts and forgives..and i feel thats how real relationships are..we generally dnt say sorry to our partners or parents..we let go and through our actions let the other know that we r sorry and the other person also never brings that topic up if he/she knows that the person has understood where he/she went wrong..and its not that they have not talked at all they have voiced their feelings time and again at different ocassions its just that they have not gone for proper heart to heart..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Amazing analysis Zoya...the two women in Raman's life are poles apart and that is the reason why he is shattered when Ishitha is away . He feels indebted that Shagun held forte in Ishitha's absence when the only person that mattered to him was Pihu because she symbolised what he wanted to offer for all that she had given him and for the cruelty the world had shown to her.
Shagun could never think beyond herself and that is her fatal flaw. She symbolises selfishness and concludes that all this around her were created to honour her and it was the obligation of the world to celebrate her for who she is. She never looks beyond her wants and needs . The conversation in the spa in season 1 refeered in a post... where Shagun taunts Ishitha she had what Shagun left behind Ishitha responds that she will never let go of it...comes true today. She underlines the reason the children embraced their Ishima is the protective care with which reached out to them time and again not to prove a point to anyone but because of her inherent love. It is that love that still makes her tell Shagun she will forever remain Pihu's Mom but No Shagun wants sole rights and contol which will never happen.
Like the use and throw situation in which she landed herself Shugun will be shunned by Bhallas but the goodness of Mani and Ishitha's impact on Aalia would be the redemption.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dmug

Nice post Zoya!! Good to c ur post after a long time..i hope u had lovely vacation..as it is till yesterday there was nothing in the episodes that deserve ur write up so u r back on right time i would say..

Yes shagun has always tried to be like ishita and thats where she went wrong..she never created her own place but tried to fill in for her by going in self sacrificing mode and what is not yours since begining u can never rightfully claim it to be urs anyway...if she wanted and been herself then she cld have married manoj and took care of pihu as Maasi which is more than a mother for pihu..bhallas took care of ruhi who was motherless for good 6 years before ishita..and they cld have done it with pihu too and this time they also had raman on their side..if shagun would have done that then she would have earned a lot more respect from my side..because she was never over compensating and was always selfish..

Coming to IshRa we all go berserk as we have not seen any confrontation between them but i feel they somehow dnt need any.. Because they both know they were wrong..ishita was wrong in running away and raman was wrong in spitting that venom..and they both know the other one knows it..ishita took all of his anger till pihu's hospital incident as she knew she wronged him..and thats the reason his drunk confession was shown..to make her realise that he is all alone without her..they always try to overcompensate to each other through their actions rather than saying sorry..and if u see ruhi is no different she also wants to redoo all her misdoings to ishita by bringing her close to pihu but she hasnt said sorry to her neither did she hug her yet..thats how their personalities are..they go for confrontations only when the things really go haywire and are out of hand..else they just prefer making other realise that they are sorry for whatever happened and other one ackowledges the efforts and forgives..and i feel thats how real relationships are..we generally dnt say sorry to our partners or parents..we let go and through our actions let the other know that we r sorry and the other person also never brings that topic up if he/she knows that the person has understood where he/she went wrong..and its not that they have not talked at all they have voiced their feelings time and again at different ocassions its just that they have not gone for proper heart to heart..


@bold - I so loved this point of view of yours. 😊👏

I agree with you completely. That's how relationships are in real life isn't it ? :- be it is between partners, parents-children, friendship, siblings. We tend to make others realize that we are extremely sorry through our actions and any genuine relationship would understand & buy that as our apology. In such relationships, actions play a greater role than actual words. I completely relate to it because that is my personal experience so far in my life as well. But I also feel that at times, we need to have that heart to heart conversations to clearly sort out certain things and move on. And that is the exact expectation I have for IshRa. There is no place for ego and self pride when it comes to relationships in real life.

Yes for the sake of the show, if the expectation is for apologies explicitly through words, then it is only fair that it comes from every one. It cannot be that one has to be explicitly apologetic with words and the other can compensate apology with actions. I really loved the way you described the relationship between IshRaRu and how they understand automatically about what they mean to each other without actually having the need to tell them at every instance.
Edited by priyadarshini.r - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Welcome back zoya😃
It's good you took a break at the right time. All these days the episodes were not worth your review😛
I can never analyse the way you can but just typing what caught my attention today😆
Shagun asked ishita that tum bohat mahaan ho na, then what happened to your mahaanta when it came to me? Why didn't you think about my life before coming to this house? It's like she's asking ishita don't you know Raman and family will choose you above me if you come back😆
Ishita showed her place but shagun knew it even before and that's why she chose the other way. Basically,she wants to enjoy the every benefit of her so called sacrifice she has done for the bhallas sthe past seven years but at the same time wants to maintain a bechari,mahaan and selfless image in the eyes of everyone.
Actually that time when Raman agreed for marrying ishita, if shagun would have been her true self that day, ishita would have left by now.
Nice post as usual👏
Edited by kingmanu - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Welcome back zoya..!!
Missed u n ur amazing posts!!
Very nice post..
Ystrday ishita ws ishita raman bhalla a confident woman who knows where she belongs..she ws not sacrificing anymore she will not give up for anything or anyone .
Her every dlg ws bang on..
She showed mirror to delusional shagun
Mujhe khud se compare karke meri ijjat mat girao
Raman tumhare pati bankar rahe bt pati nhi ban paaye bcs she knows raman belongs to her only he ws all alone he needs her loves her kids family love her
Maine tumse kuch nhi cheena wo tumhara kbhi nhi tha u left raman ruhi..bang on dlg..she showed mirror to delusional shagun..
Shagun can nvr b ishita no matter how much she tries thats y everyone wants ishita only..
Kids had a choice bt tgey chose ishita over shagun she didnt snatch them or manipulate them..
Dhokhebaaz ko dhokha hi milta hai..
Shagun always loses bcs of her selfishness n this time too she will lose everything for tge same reason..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Welcome back Zoya 🤗
I loved the confrontation because it had JKR in full form yesterday
RKBs JKR ❤️
Everything she said was spot on 👏
This track again might have good scope IF that's a big IF the cvs handle correctly 😆
Now that we have JKR back I can't wait to get back my RKB
Yes he is with her and supporting her but I want that smart witty man who could just give it back to ppl like shaggy 😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Welcome back Zoya 🤗 Glad to see you post.

I haven't been watching this show from a while now, but I happened to watch the scene, and it was a blessing to get JKR back has herself. So far she's been sacrificial and barely ever possessive, or territorial. The only time I've ever seen her be that way for Raman is in the Shanaya track, because she realized that Raman could move mountains for her if it came to that... and she had learnt that the man loved her and needed her without question. But then the kidnapping and exchange happened and his words snatched that confidence away.

She lived with the truth that she wasn't needed and even when she came back she had come only till Ruhi would be bought back because she thought that she wouldn't want to snatch Shagun's place in the family. She had presumed or obviously understood from Raman's actions that he had probably moved on and she wasn't going to interfere. But she's realized now that Raman never moved on. He may have said the worst words to her, blamed her etc but he didn't mean them. He may say he doesn't love her in his anger, but neither of them know how to fall out of love with each other. If he didn't need her why did he not marry Shagun in those 7 years, or even treat her as someone more than a woman he knew or shared the same roof as his.

She has realized that the family, Raman and her kids want her. Pihu may not realize it yet, but that's only because she hasn't been given the chance to.

She may still be guilty and feel undeserving because the after effect of Raman's words and her own action of leaving will haunt her for a while..


The less said the better about Shagun... She's always been delusional. When she left Raman she believed he would never fall out of love with her. She was so confident Adi could never leave her or choose Ishita over her. She was sure now that once Ishita would leave Raman would fall out of love with her and won't mind moving on. She doesn't understand the concept of real love and emotions. For her life is all about using opportunities and making hay while the sun shines.
Edited by -Anku- - 9 years ago

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