Was Aarushi Talwar Murder Verdict a miscarriage of justice? - Page 3

In that family,Aarushi and Hemraj were not that important...the main bread earners were the parents...why would anyone kill an innocent teenage girl and an unimportant servant without any reason ? And the killers even forgot to kill the Parents...
Aarush ne apne short life mein itne enemies bana liye ki koi use marne aa gaya ?
Toh hemraj ko marne ki wajah kya hain...use awaj aa gayi is liye woh maara gaya kya ? toh parents ko awaaj kaise sunai nahi di ?
Aur agar Koi hemraj ko marne aaya tha,toh usne aarushi ko hi kyu maara...kya usne aawaj sun li...phir bhi wohi question aata hain..parents ko kyu nahi sunai di ?
Sab keys bhi the killers ke paas...upar chat par leke maar diya hemraj ko,maar diya lock lagaya...sab weapons collect kiye aur aaram se chale gaye...chori wori kuch ki nahi...sirf 2 not so important logo ko maara aur chale gaye...
Yeh main believe nahi karta...yeh sab 4 logo mein hi hua hain...asthi leke haridwar chale gaye dusare din,itni shocking incident huyi beti ke saath,parents collapse tak nahi huye...koi budhe maa baap ki asthiya bhi itni jaldi le nahi jaate,kisko pata hota hain aaj yeh marega,kal main haridwar jaunga...log 5-6 din toh trauma mein hi rehte hain,unless koi budha bimar mara ho...
mujhe toh lagta hain mobile phones,weapons haridwar mein dispose karke aa gaye...
Hemraj ki body bhi dispose kar dete agar media ne yeh case sensationalized nahi kiya hota...chance hi nahi mila unko
Police bhi bahot irresponsible the...terrace check nahi kiya...aur family bhi...itne log aaye toh koi toh terrace khol deta,lekin nahi khola...itna simple nahi hota sab kuch jaise talwars dikha rahe hain...
Lie detectors ki authenticity pata nahi...kya sach hain kya zooth...
Woh aarushi ki mom ne call kiya hemraj ke phone pe...shayad unko pata nahi tha ki hemraj ka phone kaha hain...woh jaise hum karte hain phone dhundne ke liye waise ek ring de di hogi,phone mil gaya...baad mein yeh mudda ghuma diya...ki phone on tha baad mein switch off ho gaya...location bhi aarushi ke house wale ke area mein dikh raha tha,toh hum deny nahi kar sakte ki phone ghar mein nahi tha...
Parents ko sab blame hemraj pe dalna tha...body nahi milti na police ko toh successful ho jaate...Pura police aur media attention kam karke woh hemraj ki body dispose karne wale the,isliye woh haridwar nikal liye...unko laga matter thanda pad jayega...waha weapons aur mobiles phek aaye...lekin pol khul gayi...

Phone,weapons jama karke...2-2 murders karke...terrace lock karke aaram se chale gaye killers,kuch chori ka motive nahi...without any reason itna planned murder woh bhi un logo ka joh society mein itne important nahi the,unke enemies bhi nahi honge...kyu ki ek student thi dusara ek naukar...
Meri theory toh parents pe hi ishara karti hain...
Haridwar jaake aur pakka kar diya unhone...
woh AC ki badi awaz se kuch sunai nahi deta...par kya woh AC us Raat chalu the ?
Pata nahi,talwars toh bahot honest hain isliye woh bhi maan liya...
Mujhe toh lagta hain yeh Drishyam 2 hain...
Hemraj ne Arushi ko maar diya hoga nashe mein,talwars ne sun liya aur hemraj ka murder kiya...aur apni beti toh mar gayi...hemraj ki galti thi...toh yeh plan tayar kiya chup rehne ka...
Delhi police ki irresponsible investigation se unhe help mili aur nayi theories banane mein...

This one just breaks my heart.

Originally posted by: Divine-Pearl

Lot has been said and done in last eight years. It seems parents were convicted just to save ass of Police, hide negligence of police and CBI. Result would have been different if media was not involved in this case.

From movie 'Talwar' by Meghna Gulzar to Book 'Aarushi' by Avirook Sen, there is only one slogan 'Justice has been denied '

Looking at the ways trials were conducted, it'...

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I remember being in Delhi in Dec 2008 and there being talk about the big murder that year in the news, hearing the names Talwar, Rajesh, Aarushi again and again. But I never really followed the story back then. After seeing the movie Talvar last month I have gotten quite consumed with this case. The end result in this case, for the daughter, for the parents, for those close to the daughter, for all the people affected by the incident, for all of us who still wonder what actually happened, and why, and how, and for the benefit of the real murderers (if other than the parents), the official story of the parents' involvement - whether it makes sense or doesn't make sense - is the only story that we are to accept by the judicial system. To the point that the judicial system in this case was so convinced by the CBI's version of events that it did not need solid evidence to convict, and two people are in jail for life, as of now.

I know I missed so much about the case when it happened and I am very much a late starter to the whole Aarushi-Hemraj Double-Murder case, as is popularly referred to. So please forgive me if my questions have been asked before (in this or other forums or in the investigations), but I ask these here as I cannot find any reference to them anywhere. What bothers me are the following:-

- There is mention of Anmol sending an sms to Aarushi's phone on the night of the incidents but it did not go through. There is also mention of Anmol calling the landline at about midnight.
- If the above is true, was it ever investigated what Anmol typed in his message (or was it a normal friend-type message)?
- I have read that the landline was only in the parents' room. If this is correct, was it normal for him to call the landline at midnight?

- I have read that Anmol never used to visit Aarushi in(side) her house. Had he met Hemraj before, did he know him in anyway? (as in if he saw Hemraj from far, could he recognise him and say "hey that's Hemraj"?

- Is it odd that the maid Bharti had to be coached? Let's say she had been, and by whoever. If her language or dialect was a little different than the local Noida/UP/Delhi dialect, why was a translator or someone local to her not called in or insisted on, being the fact that it is a murder investigation? If she had stated the events of the outside/inner doors in her native language, I am sure she would have been more confident in how she wanted to state it.

- Since there are many inconsistencies in forensics, other evidences, eyewitness reports, but consistencies in no murder weapons (2 weapons - golf club and kukhri) found, and since a verdict was given convicting the two for life (and brief consideration of death penalty), and since the police or CBI cannot give an agreed sequence of events of what happened between 12am and 6am, I am thoroughly surprised that nobody - no judge (past or present), attourney general (past or present), no person of influence - has actively voiced the opinion that two people were convicted for murder without evidence, and the authorities that convicted them cannot really prove what happened.

- Until now. I have not read the Avirook book, but I applaud him (many of us should) for bringing this whole case to light. If this case was to be re-tried and the courts could show something that the parents did the crime, it would be easier to accept the verdict and they would continue their life term in jail. Until then, and until a revelation of events from either the parents or those close to the family, there will always be a divide in how the public sees the judiciary and CBI in compilcated cases such as this.
- And if ever there was a revelation of events at any point in time that proves their innocence, what then should happen to people like the officer who called the daughter "characterless", the loose-morals etc talk, which basically put the malefic media-machine in motion?

The law has been harsh to the parents (actually that depends on how you look at it). And the public have also been harsh to the parents in the sense that the public needs to ask the legal (or otherwise) leaders of the country how a person can be convicted without presentation of evidence while supported by a sensational story/motive from the authorities without presentation of evidence?

May I ask anyone reading this - God forbid if anything happened to anyone you know in a similar vicinity to this case and the CBI got involved, and let's just say a couple of the investigators were the same guys from the 2nd CBI team - and you would have no say to change anything - would you feel a little relief - or no change really- if those particular CBI guys had a sudden case to attend to elsewhere and were replaced with new investigators?