women's sexuality;does india need a sexual revolution?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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read this article on a blog. what is your opinion about it? why something as normal as this is still a taboo? is it actually a issue ?
https://www.youthkiawaaz.com/author/nishtha_relan/

I Am A Woman, And I Masturbate. Stop Demonising Me For It'

This post is a part of TARSHI's #TalkSexuality Campaign.
I have faint memories of my mother telling me, when I was a kid, to not touch my privates unnecessarily. Like a lot of my friends I have discussed this with, I don't remember when exactly I realised that touching the c***oral area could be a very pleasant act. I only remember knowing that it wasn't something I could talk about, to anybody.I used to subscribe to the male-dictated stereotypical ideas of the uptight behaviour in school, which was considered proper' for young women, even by my father, so much so that I was arrogant about not wanting to talk to the other gender. I didn't have male friends or boyfriends who could ask me anything intimate, let alone suggest indulging in something remotely sexual. Just the thought of talking about one's body was embarrassing and shameful in the teenage years; the female friends I had picked for myself were quiet about their bodies too, except for talking about menstrual cramps. So it was not until the end of 10th standard when I first watched a variety of po*n, that I finally understood how the act of sex works, along with that of pleasuring oneself. And to wait patiently to experience an orgasm for the first time, and that too with one's own hands! I think it was the one miracle I could believe in. I realise how misinformed my first ideas of masturbation were, having learnt about it from a source like po*n, which tends to be far from reality and mostly dedicated to serve male fantasies. I wish I had some close, non-judgemental friend or a teacher to discuss it with. Also, I must clarify that in no way am I blaming po*n for my sexual exploration.

Of course it was my little secret back then, which sent me on several guilt trips every time I would stop to judge myself. I was afraid of going to the gynaecologist for a regular check up because I thought she might get to know, by looking at my vagina, that I was masturbating and would inform my mother. It never occurred to me that other people could have a healthy attitude towards the act since I had never heard it being mentioned in the 19 years of my life. I never had the courage to bring it up in front of anybody, not even my best friends. A year into an all-girls college and I was fortunate enough to find some wonderful friends who were absolutely fine with discussing anything under the sun, from masturbation techniques to its effects, from a friend's coming out of the closet regarding her bisexuality and being comfortable with it to talking and seeking comfort about the most disturbing incidents. Only after that was I able to be happily in sync with my vagina and its needs.

I realise how big a taboo this topic is. It is considered a much bigger revelation, and a much more demonised act for women than it is for men. Myths, like the one of men going blind if they masturbate, or that of losing their virility in the form of ejaculated semen, reflect the conditioning of a society that defines masculinity as all-capable, emotionally stoic, physically strong, and sexually charged virility. Women are always expected to either never recognise or to easily overcome their desire (unless they are married to a man who may then dictate their sexual needs). Pleasure for women so often comes with the baggage of shame, which further dictates the categorical dichotomy of women as the mother' or the wh**e'. A woman who enjoys her sexuality and is able to talk about it would be too scandalous for some people, inviting labels of she's a s**t', which reinforces the stereotype of female desire being abnormal'. To think that so many women deny themselves the relief of sexual satisfaction due to the guilt of desiring it is terrible! Furthermore, considering masturbation as merely a second alternative to sex, is a gross undermining of the powers of human sexual capability. It would then mean the denial of the ability of a healthy sexual release for the human body. Sexual intercourse and masturbation are two very different activities, and either one does not entirely compensate for the other. To add to this, many women may not even realise the presence of the c***oris; after all, the word is not heard of often even in sex-education' conversations, since sexual fulfilment is often only connected to the idea of penetration.

Trust me, I am not making it a men vs. women agenda here. Of course, the society is sceptical and mostly dismissive when it comes to sexual enjoyment removed from the process of procreation, for people of all genders, but never in equal measure. I might have been more comfortable with exploring my body without having to deal with the guilt if I had somebody to talk to earlier on, or somewhere to learn that what I was doing/experiencing was not wrong'.


ps: this article belongs to nishtha relan and youth ki aawaaz blog .

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Posted: 10 years ago
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does india need a sexual revolution?


Yes the women should complete a revolution around the solar system and then we can discuss this...
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Sort of divided opinion on this topic. Lot of western countries have sexual awareness education as part of education. Which means the teens already know how the whole process works nuts and bolts. However there is a huge issue of teen pregnancies even though they know the pros and cons or ins and outs of the whole process.

In India however we don't see a huge issue of teen pregnancies however we do see lot of sexual frustrations growing up because teens both boys and girls do not understand what is happening to their bodies and how they should respond to what their body and mind is trying to do. Back in the days they used to get married in their teens so may be there was a release and sort of pushed into the deed sort of situation. However since current generations do not get married till their mid to late 20s this need to understand the process grows more important. It is a bad idea to get your knowledge from po*n as it is already polarized towards impractical expectations and wrong precedence.

In this modern day I think parents should take this topic as their responsibility to educate their children at appropriate age of course. I would not just limit this to girls it should be done to boys too. I think if there is a proper education there may be reduction in the number of sex crimes that are committed in this country.

I might have deviated from the topic above but IMO i don't see anything wrong in masturbation for both men and women at any age. Although i don't see a need to go about talking to family and friends on the benefits of masturbation. Why do i need to justify what my sexuality to others? Talking about it to others don't really do anything except if you want justification and consent from other people for your own needs.
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My mother too don't discuss these things wid me. I got to know most of d things while surfing on net at 17 after reading some words in newspaper. At 15 only, I actually got to know how baby is born dat is thru vagina. Initially, I thought dat d babies r born after cutting d stomach. Then I wud wonder how animals cut their stomach to bring out babies. At 15 only, I got to know wat is sex n how its done after seeing its meaning in dictionary. Really, mothers needs to tell their daughters abt all dis as early as possible. Parents r eager to marry their daughter as early as possible but not caring to give them basic sex education as they consider it shameful. Then how do they expect her to f**k a stranger on her so-called suhaagraat? Do they expect her husband to give her sex education before f**king her? Honestly speaking, I have still not seen my own c***oris till now as I wonder where it is situated. In several Muslim countries, there is a practice called FGM(Female Genital Mutilation) where female genitals like labias n c***oris r cut n stitched wdout anaesthesia so dat they don't feel pleasure as they think women indulging in self pleasure r s**ts.
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Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

My mother too don't discuss these things wid me. I got to know most of d things while surfing on net at 17 after reading some words in newspaper. At 15 only, I actually got to know how baby is born dat is thru vagina. Initially, I thought dat d babies r born after cutting d stomach. Then I wud wonder how animals cut their stomach to bring out babies. At 15 only, I got to know wat is sex n how its done after seeing its meaning in dictionary. Really, mothers needs to tell their daughters abt all dis as early as possible. Parents r eager to marry their daughter as early as possible but not caring to give them basic sex education as they consider it shameful. Then how do they expect her to f**k a stranger on her so-called suhaagraat? Do they expect her husband to give her sex education before f**king her? Honestly speaking, I have still not seen my own c***oris till now as I wonder where it is situated. In several Muslim countries, there is a practice called FGM(Female Genital Mutilation) where female genitals like labias n c***oris r cut n stitched wdout anaesthesia so dat they don't feel pleasure as they think women indulging in self pleasure r s**ts.

yes you are right, sex education should be taken into consideration, its really important to create awareness among younger generation as in the hyperactive global media age its hard to keep teens away from sexual stuffs. learning from wrong sources can cause a lot of misconception and it can scar them emotionally and mentally for life.
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I'm tired of such topics.

These people should realise, what you do privately has no relevance! It's all natural...enjoy yourself, but, why talk and make an issue about as if you've lost something important in life :/

Just because other people are closed to your desire to TALK about it, I don't see how there's any issue?

Carnal pleasures are just as natural as taking a dump, do you need advise about taking a dump? Lol..have fun in exploring your body...if there's no one to talk about. So what if there are myths, in this age we can confirm everything from internet and EVEN if we cannot...how is it a big deal if you are deprived of self-pleasure?

I seriously do not understand the idea behind her article. As if it was a very big issue.
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil


I'm tired of such topics.

These people should realise, what you do privately has no relevance! It's all natural...enjoy yourself, but, why talk and make an issue about as if you've lost something important in life :/

Just because other people are closed to your desire to TALK about it, I don't see how there's any issue?

Carnal pleasures are just as natural as taking a dump, do you need advise about taking a dump? Lol..have fun in exploring your body...if there's no one to talk about. So what if there are myths, in this age we can confirm everything from internet and EVEN if we cannot...how is it a big deal if you are deprived of self-pleasure?

I seriously do not understand the idea behind her article. As if it was a very big issue.



Getting information from Internet is one of the problems that we need to tackle. Not everything you see on internet is correct which means it can skew your understanding. Specifically po*n is not a teaching tool as I tried to explain in my previous post.

WRT to the article, I have to agree to some extent with your thoughts. I don't want to be gender biased but these sort of articles tend to come from women 😈 really when will women learn to keep their feelings to themselves. May be i am not correct in saying that.
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil


I'm tired of such topics.

These people should realise, what you do privately has no relevance! It's all natural...enjoy yourself, but, why talk and make an issue about as if you've lost something important in life :/

Just because other people are closed to your desire to TALK about it, I don't see how there's any issue?

Carnal pleasures are just as natural as taking a dump, do you need advise about taking a dump? Lol..have fun in exploring your body...if there's no one to talk about. So what if there are myths, in this age we can confirm everything from internet and EVEN if we cannot...how is it a big deal if you are deprived of self-pleasure?

I seriously do not understand the idea behind her article. As if it was a very big issue.

initially i was also kind of confused when i read this article.
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil


I'm tired of such topics.

These people should realise, what you do privately has no relevance! It's all natural...enjoy yourself, but, why talk and make an issue about as if you've lost something important in life :/

Just because other people are closed to your desire to TALK about it, I don't see how there's any issue?

Carnal pleasures are just as natural as taking a dump, do you need advise about taking a dump? Lol..have fun in exploring your body...if there's no one to talk about. So what if there are myths, in this age we can confirm everything from internet and EVEN if we cannot...how is it a big deal if you are deprived of self-pleasure?

I seriously do not understand the idea behind her article. As if it was a very big issue.


Carnal pleasures are natural and as important as any other body functions. Unfortunately, there is a lack of understanding and education about taking care of our carnal instincts. Throughout our life we receive a whole lot of good education about our body and its needs. Hydration, nutrition, exercise, sleep and everything. We are taught how to keep our mind and body healthy. We are taught to identify problem signs and how to address them. Even with something as silly and mundane sounding as taking a dump, we receive potty training throughout our childhood till we know when and how to take a dump. We are taught hygiene and cleanliness. Digestive issues even though embarrassing are still things you can talk about with family. People have no qualms loudly giving advice on what to consume in case of constipation or diarrhea. Despite the embarrassing nature many issues can still be discussed without fear of social ostracization or judgement.


Sexual health on the other hand is often highly ignored. People are left to their own to discover sexuality themselves. In some countries you are lucky to have a sex education. In most of the world people discover things on their own. If they experience problems or have questions they cannot ask their family for advice easily. Even asking doctors about sexual health has its risks in conservative society. This is highly dangerous because without proper knowledge people can put themselves and others in harms way of many health issues and diseases. Sometimes people struggle to learn the basics like what is appropriate and the importance of consent.


The internet is a dangerous place to learn anything. There are many myths floating out there. po*nography can lead to many misconceptions without prior education. Some information is discriminatory in nature as well. Taboo about sex needs to be broken so people can have a healthy and safe sexual life just like any other aspect of their body and health.


As a woman I grew up in a culture where sex was taboo. I grew up believing sexual desire was sinful. Every sexual feeling would result in a whole lot of guilt. Sometimes excess guilt would lead to depression. I did not know much beyond the basics. I did not know my own body, its needs and how to address sexual desire. It took a very long time before I could shed the guilt and become comfortable with my whole being - emotional, physical and sexual.


Sexual revolution is not just about personal pleasure. It is about a society that is safe and healthy in all aspects of the human experience. It is about creating a place where everyone can experience happy, healthy, safe social experiences. It is about giving people the information and confidence to avoid emotional and physical discomfort and pain. Looking back I wish I had the opportunity to transition from adolescence to adulthood without being miserable about the sexual changes and desires.

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Originally posted by: return_to_hades


Carnal pleasures are natural and as important as any other body functions. Unfortunately, there is a lack of understanding and education about taking care of our carnal instincts. Throughout our life we receive a whole lot of good education about our body and its needs. Hydration, nutrition, exercise, sleep and everything. We are taught how to keep our mind and body healthy. We are taught to identify problem signs and how to address them. Even with something as silly and mundane sounding as taking a dump, we receive potty training throughout our childhood till we know when and how to take a dump. We are taught hygiene and cleanliness. Digestive issues even though embarrassing are still things you can talk about with family. People have no qualms loudly giving advice on what to consume in case of constipation or diarrhea. Despite the embarrassing nature many issues can still be discussed without fear of social ostracization or judgement.


Sexual health on the other hand is often highly ignored. People are left to their own to discover sexuality themselves. In some countries you are lucky to have a sex education. In most of the world people discover things on their own. If they experience problems or have questions they cannot ask their family for advice easily. Even asking doctors about sexual health has its risks in conservative society. This is highly dangerous because without proper knowledge people can put themselves and others in harms way of many health issues and diseases. Sometimes people struggle to learn the basics like what is appropriate and the importance of consent.


The internet is a dangerous place to learn anything. There are many myths floating out there. po*nography can lead to many misconceptions without prior education. Some information is discriminatory in nature as well. Taboo about sex needs to be broken so people can have a healthy and safe sexual life just like any other aspect of their body and health.


As a woman I grew up in a culture where sex was taboo. I grew up believing sexual desire was sinful. Every sexual feeling would result in a whole lot of guilt. Sometimes excess guilt would lead to depression. I did not know much beyond the basics. I did not know my own body, its needs and how to address sexual desire. It took a very long time before I could shed the guilt and become comfortable with my whole being - emotional, physical and sexual.


Sexual revolution is not just about personal pleasure. It is about a society that is safe and healthy in all aspects of the human experience. It is about creating a place where everyone can experience happy, healthy, safe social experiences. It is about giving people the information and confidence to avoid emotional and physical discomfort and pain. Looking back I wish I had the opportunity to transition from adolescence to adulthood without being miserable about the sexual changes and desires.

exactly, if in a society sexual assault is lesser taboo than masturbation then there is something seriously wrong with the value system of that society.
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