Dharam karam bharam - Page 3

To be frank, my dear, that scene sickened me, and I barely watched the rest. There should be a limit to what they can show in an 8 pm telecast. Besides, this kind of excessive mahaanta gets my goat every time. I simply cannot stand it, whether it is an Ekta Kapoor show or here.

I would grant you the whole of your last para, Shruthi, but I did think that his colleagues deserved something more by way of an explanation from their Garuda Pramukh. Instead, he told Leela to leave after Thappadiya Mai (she should have landed him one of her famous blessings, but I suppose she was not in the mood😉) stormed off, then turned haughtily on his heel and walked off without a word, without even looking at any of them. This is not the way to carry your team with you. If I had been Tiwari, I would have found it downright insulting, and so he does.

Then, what was it with Rudra going off on a solo expedition without even telling his team? I suppose he sees it as a continuation of his earlier solo fiasco. I was glad MB withheld her aashirwaadi and told him that it was his responsibility to get all the garuds together.

Before that happens, I hope at least some of them give him a piece of their mind.Now if Shivanand is taking him by the throat in fury (the precap) because he has given away the books, that will make me feel a lot better!😉And Rao too, I expect!

I do not understand how the GPS tags on the books, that Tiwari said had failed, suddenly started working again. And how did Rudra land up in the naga den on his own (presumably) ? This is just what I meant when I was concerned about an accordion closing type, instant sorting out of all the problems that have lingered for so long. Maybe they are not getting an extension after all.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Actually I loved the epi bar that torture scene, though Rahil was at his saddist best , it was a bit intolerable for me. Like Shymaladi that hallucination scene really made me want to reach out for Amrutanjan. But then it was to be expected. They have weakened Shiva before brain mapping so that his subconscious does not resist to give info.

But the best part I liked was Rudra- Leela and his role as Maharakshak. Yes he protected a girl which was his duty and even knowing fully well what he can achieve by holding her, he let her go. And I loved the way Leela was looking at him and each time from the beginning her expression change. First haughtly Nag Dhoka nahi dete, then to confusion and finally a tinge of guilt listening to all others telling she can save Maya hold her and his firm stand she will go.

Actually yesterday epi showed the contrast once again between Dansh and Rudra. Dansh tortures Shiva to get the power and Rudra knowing he has the power, willingly let it go. Simply following the principle " If it is yours it will come to you, if it doesn't it was never meant to be". If Leela was meant to cure Maya she will do it willingly, without using force. Rudra's action will make her do that willingly and something that is done with free will always be beneficial both for the taker and for the giver.

Shymaladi I agree to you that explanation should have been given. Whatever I told in the last para Rudra should have told to his team members, because he could see they were dissatisfied. He could have told after Leela has gone " Wo aayegi, mein jaanta hoon, apni marzi se aayengi or something like " Haq jeetha nahi jaata, haq diya jaata hai, agar maya ka illaj leela se hona hai to use aana hi hoga"

Shruthi, Shyamala,

You, my dear, are a lifesaver! I really needed this after tonight's torture. The only word for it is superb, especially the part in blue.. Thank you.

And why is the background stuff - I hesitate to call it music - invariably so loud that one can barely make out what the characters are speaking, and at times fail to do so?

Shyamala

My dear Shruthi,

I agree completely with you re: your last para, and that is why I do not watch saas bahu soaps, the sole exception being Pavitra Rishta for a couple of years. But that was nowhere near as bad, in terms of emotional mistreatment, as you saw in DABH. And the bahu there is supposed to be an IPS officer! Amazing. Kiran Bedi should be told about this. I cannot imagine a lady IPS officer being bullied by her saas. Not that this DABH lady looks at all credible in that position. I watch the DKDM reruns on Star Utsav, and DABH comes just before that, so I have seen her in bits and pieces . She lacks the air of command totally.

So I watch only mythologicals like DKDM. or pseudo-historicals, like Jodha Akbar and Ashoka (this one only for Siddharth, the young Rudra) , but now I have started on a promising new show on Sony, Reporters - with Rajeev Khandelwal, whom I saw in a very good film, Aamir, though not on TV, and Kritika Kamra, who seems to have become much more khaati peethi than I remember her, but is still cute - for the last 2 weeks.

Yesterday, Mahakumbh was like a remix of Superman (for the shav vahan being blocked and the lifted) and a documentary on the effect of PDP or angel dust on the human system, plus some standard issue maar dhaad in a constricted space. Plus of course all that fantastical stuff about time stopping for 7 minutes, the 7 gates to the amrit guarded by the 7 garuds, and so on.

What was never explained, and probably never will be, was how Rudra landed pat in the middle of the undergroung naga lair. Perhaps Dansh, in the excitement of his coup in getting the Two Books and still retaining Shivanand, he forgot to switch on the laser and his Garuda Locator worked!

Shruthi, after Drish mapped Shivanand's brain last night, I realised that part of your theory re: the exchange and the grenades Dansh used, was correct. He never intended to give Shivanand back, for then the vital brain-mapping would have gone for a six. You were right on this.

But by the same token, he could not have been thinking of killed Shivanand with that grenade.

His plan must thus have been for Leela to get the Two Books and hand over Shivanand. At that point, he would have tossed a grenade at Rudra and the others who would have been advancing towards the open space. In the confusion created by the explosion, Dansh would have streaked up to Shivanand in his wheelchair and dragged him back into the vehicle and pushed off with him.

Arshi, you will be pleased to know that I liked Dansh the best last night😉. He was chortling away to glory watching Shivanand hammer the DM, Charles and Katharine, instead of snarling as usual, and even in the precap, he only expels Leela, he does not kill her, as even her father would have expected him to do. And in the beginning, he sat there on the edge of a chair, like an anxious, expectant father inside the labour room, while his guru, having the upper hand for once, pottered around pompously with the brain mapping and its decoding.

Now see how technologically advanced the nagas are as compared to the garuds!😉😉😉

They can successfully map what passes for poor Shivanand's brain, addled as it must have been by so much of heating by laser, plus the assorted poison injections. Even more impressive, they have hallucinogens (colour coded, without a doubt!😉) that can produce specific hallucinations tailor-made for the target! Dansh instead of Rudra one time, Rudra instead of that poor bakra another time, and so on!😉 I am sure the CIA or the KGB, dazzled by such stuff, would love to get their hands on naga alchemy, and would pay anything for it.😉

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Shymaladi I agree to you that explanation should have been given. Whatever I told in the last para Rudra should have told to his team members, because he could see they were dissatisfied. He could have told after Leela has gone " Wo aayegi, mein jaanta hoon, apni marzi se aayengi or something like " Haq jeetha nahi jaata, haq diya jaata hai, agar maya ka illaj leela se hona hai to use aana hi hoga"

One of these dialogues should have given hope to the team members. They would have known their leader has done something knowing what he is doing. This is where good communication matters and I would say Rudra has not yet learnt the art of that communication. To keep Garuds together communication is needed and whatever justification I have given for Rudra's action is because as a viewer we know lot more than the other Garuds are supposed to know. Hence can analyze Rudra better. But to be frank if my manager had done something like this without giving justification or for that matter any of my personal relation believe me they will be holding a rebel in front of them till I get the justification for such an action. Right or wrong is a different thing. But what made them do it apart from this so called mahanta. Like you these overdose of mahanta don't go down my throat very well and for past some time knowing that TRP aunty love mahanta, I try to analyze things and if I feel certain things are glossed over for TRP aunty without dialogue I have learned to live with that. yesterday lack of dialogue from Rudra was for TRP aunty, not for us.

Coming to torture. This is only physical torture which we are understanding, it is a torture but look at the prime time shows spewing emotional torture which people don't even understand they are getting tortured. Negativity rules the prime time soaps. Have you watched DABH. Irrespective of what I had liked about the show the venom spewing done by Bhabo for some of the epi was literal torture and I used to skip them reading the spoilers. Because it was total mental collapse if you watch it. Another show Udaan which my mom sees. The torture inflicted on the kid chakor yuck no words for it. . I abhor that show because of the torture. In MK atleast we can call it a war, torture is expected to happen. And it is better than prime time soaps which call themselves family drama but does not have anything that can be seen with families and just create negativity around.

Shymaladi it is said that there is unknown knowledge to the modern scientific world. If you look all the super natural books like Harry Potter, Indian mythology, super man series , Greek mythology all run on this fascination of unknown knowledge or the special knowledge few people have. Most stories has been the chase of that elusive knowledge which will help people to get power and wealth. People murder and loot for that knowledge to get power and wealth, without knowing knowledge has to be respected in first place. Yes Nagas has immense knowledge which actually they could have used for the benefit of the society. But unfortunately they use it for maiming and killing. It is like that in the real world also.