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Vetri Vel

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Posted: 11 years ago

#81

The question itself is bit conflicting... when u r already friends then where is the question of 'attracted physically'?

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return_to_hades

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Posted: 11 years ago

#82

Human society is a result of evolution, both biological and social.

Few things to note.

1) Sex is a two way street. It has to offer benefits to all participants. Consumption is a one way street. It offers benefits to just the consumer.

2) Society has evolved to view sexual relations as between consenting adults. That means pedophilia, rape, incest, bestiality which were all once norms in society are morally wrong now.

3) Society has also evolved to exploit nature to sustain itself be it meat or vegetables. Even if you are a pure vegetarian, farming is an unnatural man made process that depletes soil nutrition, strips natural habitat for farming, consumes precious water resources etc to feed ourselves. We use pesticides, herbicides and all sorts of chemicals killing wildlife along with pests so that our food be safe. We freak out about GMO now, but most food grains and several food crops are result of generations of selective breeding. So whether you kill an animal to eat it or kill an entire herd by replacing its habitat with farmland - you are not taking nature's permission on how you sustain yourself. In fact efforts to restore wild buffalo herds, pheasant conservatories, deer conservatories to obtain wild meat sources are actually restoring natural environment more than farming for food.

4) Comparing bestiality and meat consumption is a very dangerous proposition that uses flawed analogies that draws parallels between two distinct and unique moral issues which need to be addressed in their own relative space. Eating a cucumber is not the same as masturbating with a cucumber. They have to be treated differently as such.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#83

Originally posted by: return_to_hades
Comparing bestiality and meat consumption is a very dangerous proposition that uses flawed analogies that draws parallels between two distinct and unique moral issues which need to be addressed in their own relative space. Eating a cucumber is not the same as masturbating with a cucumber. They have to be treated differently as such.

@ Red : I Agree.

@ Blue : Still not following. Aren't we freaking out about comparisons between food & sex for the sake our own convenience ? I still see no concrete reason for them to not be compared, in fact food & sex are very much similar needs - both are one of the basic needs followed by shelter, clothing & then more complex needs like wealth,societal standing etc comes into the picture.Point being , food & sex are one of the basic- primeval needs ( they are more similar to each other than you would like to admit ) & are even intertwined sometimes ( there are food fetishes , example - chocolate , vanilla fetishes, or even the example of cucumber put forth by you etc which are actually mostly acceptable forms of practice at varying degrees ). However , stating 'relative space' as a reason for them to not be compared may be a valid reason if you are strictly going by human moral compass ( which in itself is subjective) but i am not sure how concrete it is - I don't think it is enough to completely refute the argument of food vs. sex if one thinks of it from a strictly logical point of view. I suppose that's why you called it a "dangerous proposition" & rightly so. 🤢

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Posted: 11 years ago

#84

^^

To look at it another way - is eating a human the same as having sex with them? We can have sex with someone if we get permission. Can we eat them too if they give permission? (Think Armin Mewes)

Having sex. One issue. Consuming food. Completely different discrete issue. Cannot draw complete parallels. It is not a convenience issue, but a logical issue too.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#85

Originally posted by: return_to_hades
^^

To look at it another way - is eating a human the same as having sex with them? We can have sex with someone if we get permission. Can we eat them too if they give permission? (Think Armin Mewes)

Having sex. One issue. Consuming food. Completely different discrete issue. Cannot draw complete parallels. It is not a convenience issue, but a logical issue too.

Actually Cannibalism too has been a practice in some civilizations ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibalism#Reasons ) * barf * . Again , if you think about it logically , cannibalism can be found in several species , so to rule it out as an unnatural phenomenon may not be right but yes in most societies it has been ruled out on moral grounds since it evokes severe disgust among majority ( which is the same with bestiality & its legal in Denmark 😆) .

I will give you another example - i grew up in a culture where non-vegetarian food like chicken , fish , eggs, goat-meat was a norm but if somebody even mentions beef or pork while i am having my food , i get nauseous ,and yet beef & pork are a norm throughout the world , heck ! even bull testicles & rattle snakes are fried like chips in some regions. 🤢 So it all boils down to what we are preconditioned to believe , expect & are habituated to - thus the intolerance is yet another example of bigotry. Out of cannibalism , bestiality , incest , necrophilia(with consent before dying 😆) & pedophilia - i think only pedophilia can be sufficiently ruled out on moral , ethical & logical grounds and even that too can be challenged ( excuse me while go & vomit 🤢 ) . Logic always falters somewhere or the other. It is indeed an issue of convenience and devoid of logical reasoning.

I wish i hadn't read that article . 😵

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Posted: 11 years ago

#86

^^

You have once again danced around the primary question.

Is having sex with something the same as eating it? You see no fundamental difference between the two?

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Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#87

Originally posted by: return_to_hades
^^

You have once again danced around the primary question.

Is having sex with something the same as eating it? You see no fundamental difference between the two?

No I am not dancing around anything 😆 . You have asked this question earlier and I had answered it already , the act of having sex with something or eating the same thing do of course differ in the sense that one is having sex with something & one is eating something. 😆 Other than that they are very much comparable to each other ( they are much more similar to each other than you would like to admit ) . Moreover, there is no logical way to decide which is worse than which unless of course if you take out the human moral compass which comes with various notions attached to sex.

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Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#88

Originally posted by: Mighty-Zeus

No I am not dancing around anything 😆 . You have asked this question earlier and I had answered it already , the act of having sex with something or eating the same thing do of course differ in the sense that one is having sex with something & one is eating something. 😆 Other than that they are very much comparable to each other ( they are much more similar to each other than you would like to admit ) . Moreover, there is no logical way to decide which is worse than which unless of course if you take out the human moral compass which comes with various notions attached to sex.

🤣

And is that something eatable?

This is very interesting compare, where do you come up with this shit 😆

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Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#89

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

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And is that something eatable?

This is very interesting compare, where do you come up with this shit 😆

I think an example of cocumber-carrot was put forth , wasn't' it ? 😆Also , let's not forget the American pie or banana peel 🤣

Coming to bestiality , its just plain disgusting but after reading that Denmark article and the comments there within , I am not able to justify my disgust from a logical POV. We are just disgusted. Period !

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