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Posted: 10 years ago
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I liked the way Mannu approached his brother Abhi. And Abhi's intention was not to hurt but to play a prank. Shivam wants to payback.

Ganga is unable to hold Jagya's attention because he thinks Ganga is trying to protect her son and indirectly holding him responsible for not being strict with Shivam too.

Anandi is seeing children's quarrels but she is not able to see Ganga's helplessness and her point of view.

Both Anandi and Ganga are creating problems for Jagya. Anandi by not recognising the tension and Ganga by not understanding Jagya's point of view.

It is Anandi's nature not to move away from trouble and thinking that she knows how to handle things.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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It seems Jagya, Ganga and Anandi are too busy with their respective professional lives to deep dive into the issues involving kids. Mannu knows the problem and tries to counsel Abhi, He should also speak to Shivam in the same way alone.

What Abhi did was a simple prank, he couldn't have imagined that Shivam would run out of the school like that. Anandi was more worried about Shivam not doing his homework than asking him why he left school at all? Isn't that a worrying factor? Especially for Anandi as she has already lost a kid !
Ganga is thinking right, but she feels helpless and can't express her concerns properly to Jagya. Jagya is also trying to do the best he can under given circumstances with his balancing attempts. Strict administrator dadisa is clueless as well. No body is actually talking to the kids.

Then what's going wrong ? Isn't that obvious ?
Anandi needs to take action, She simply can't expect that its a hug and forget type of scenario, and Shivam was talking about punishing Abhi, She is being casual about things concerning Shivam and his welfare. The kid could have been kidnapped or killed. Atleast, they should show Anandi introspecting about this problem.

Its a mess, rightfully quoted @Leaves, but an unnecessary one. Why to complicate pretty straightforward things ! Anandi staying in BH is creating all these problems.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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I think Mannu is the only one who seems to understand Abhi's problem.Probably he was the one who spends more time with both Abhi and Shivam.
Abhi himself had said that Shivam makes him angry because of all th scoldings that he gest from his fatehr.
So it is clear that the lack of communication between Abhi and his father is resulting in all this frustration and resentment against Shivam.
Shivam seems to go for a tit for tat way of solving issues

Ganga is right in most of the things but she should realise that Shivam is not the cause for the problem butAbhi's behaviour towards Shivam is only a symptom of Abhi's problem.

Anandi - she is just seeing it as kids issue.From Shivam's side it just looks like tit for tat and he forgets about him.His behaviour doesn't seem to come from deep seated problem like Abhi's So Anandi is half right. She does seem to pay attention and communicate with her son It is simple kids problem only if she looks at it from Shivam's perspective.
Shivam is not harbouring any insecurities like he is fatherless kid while Abhi has one etc. He likes the attention he gets from the family but he is not going out of his way to get that. Though he likes J and Dsa a lot he doesn't expect them to take his father's place.


Jagya needs to realise that Abhi and Mannu are his children and he is responsible for them.He neeed not divide his attentions between Shivam and his kids.If Shivam is a fatherless kid let him be.He is not looking at Jagya as a father figure.

So it is better they move out.It will be better for Shivam and herself. I guess she needs someone to look after and take care of him in her absence but she can still shift and take Dsa's help.

Edited by aparnauma - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Creatives always make simple things complicated - to stretch the track. Looks like children in BH are being neglected and nobody is there to talk to them. There seems to lack of emotional connect and to sort things with children. Mannu is proving to be a better guardian than even DS. But then he thinks his responsibility is with Abhi only - he should have counselled Shivam also.
And Anandi's greatest weakness is - she never introspect. All these years, she has faced problems but never paused to think why things went wrong. And somehow in this serial - whoever is in trouble is never told where he went wrong. When Shivam came home, everybody must be relieved that he is safe. But after that - they should have asked him the reason why he left school, how he did not know the route from school to home, why he did not try to ask help?

Abhi just left him in school - it would have troubled the elders more (arranging to pick up the child again) and just a little anguish for Shivam. But what Shivam did will result in embarrassing Abhi in class - may be he will be punished, perhaps his father will be called to school to report this. And the culprit (Shivam) will not even be found out.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It is nice of Mannu as an older brother to explain things to Abhi in a mature way he helped Abhi realise what he has done and also helped him figure out what his problem is.

But Mannu himself is still a child sSo we can't expect Mannu to see the bigger pictire so clearly and talki things out wth Shivam too


Shivam was thinking of getting Abhi punished - So Anandi is more bothered about not letting resentment grow between the kids and trying to pass on the message about forgive and forget which she follows in her life. May be that was enough from Shivam's side because it is just a prank played on him and that went wrong.Only Shivam is intent on giving it back as good as he got.So she has to work on that

It is not just Abhi and tomoorow if some one pulls a parank on Shivam he will react in the same way.Shivam's problem is only that - tit for tat and Anandi has to make him understand that it doesn't work always

Shivam probably would have learnt a lesson after getting lost and that will teach him a lot more lessons than a session with Anandi would.

Anandi's problem is Shivam she is trying to contain it from that end. Abhi's problem is something for hsi parents to deal with
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Anandi does not seem to think there is any problem in Shivam, and here she is going wrong. If Shivam was talking of getting Abhi punished - Anandi should have explained what Abhi had done (left him in school) was in no way responsible for him (Shivam) getting lost. She should have explained him - that Shivam did something which resulted in grave situation - all the adults were worried and even police was searching for him. (the situation is similar to Gulli's case - nobody told Gulli that what she was doing was wrong - when she was filming Heth Singh's son).
If Abhi feels so much resentment - perhaps Shivam is instigating him and has not been caught so far. Perhaps Shivam is too much pampered child and even DS is not giving attention to Abhi - so he is feeling left out. Perhaps Mannu also (like Jagya) does not feel it right to say anything to Shivam.
If it is indeed only jealousy in Abhi, and lack of communication from his parents only - then the problem can be solved by hearing out the child and explaining to him. But if Shivam is mischievous - then he also should be counselled.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The fact remains that Abhi wilfully left him behind with an intent to trouble him.That doesn't alter the issue whether he got back home without getting lost or got lost and someone found him.

Kids learn fast Shivam would think twice before he went on adventure on his own again..They don't need sessions from parents after they walked into trouble like Shivam got himself into


Shivam wants punishment for Abhi for leaving him behind and lying about it. That is a big issue.If that is not curtailed it will escalate further.

From Mannu and Abhi conversation it is very clear why Abhi is troubled by Shivam. He clearly said because of Shivam he gets scolded by his father and from what Mannu had said about Shivam there doesn't seem to be any animosity from Shivam's siden Abhi acknowledged when Mannu rerminded all the nice things Shivam did for him.

If Shivam is getting too much attention is that Shivam's fault or is it the people around him pamper him?

Shivam is mischevous wants to give tit for tat but Abhi's behaviour is coming from a deep seated problem which only his parnts can solve.

From Shivam's side Anandi is trying to contain his reactions towards Abhi and trying to make him not get provoked by Abhi. Obviously she has not succeeded as yet since Shivam has returned Abhi's favour.
Anandi is trying to address the issue and she can't control Abhi's actions but she can definitely influence Shivam.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I wonder why Ganga said if Shivam stops poking Abhi,Abhi will also stop poking Shivam. So it is clear that Ganga saw a lot more during these 11 years. To me It was clear that Shivam deliberately provoking Abhi the very same moment he explained to Ganga that Abhi thinks everybody in BH loves him more , yet repeated with such a pleasure that he's Dadisa's favorite. For such a goody its very interesting that he is not satisfied with Abhi's punishment, he wants more. Not to mention that his mother not made it clear what he did wrong, again. Tit for tat?.I wouldn't say so. I really hope this time he will be caught. For his own good.
Otherwise, what kind of person he'll become if he thinks that everything he does is perfect.
And for Abhi's sake too. Because it's not just black and white in this children mess .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shivam getting more attention does not mean that Abhi is getting scolded. If Abhi is getting scolded due to Shivam - naturally, there is something Shivam is doing. Anandi did not ask Shivam to apologise for eating Abhi's sandwich and Abhi may see this as Shivam not even apologising for what he is doing. One parent is too lenient towards her kid, other parent is too strict towards his kid and the most experienced of all (DS) is oblivious of anything. Net result - atmosphere is not healthy for children.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mannu brought around Abhi to apologise but I don't think Anandi would force Shivam to apologise.
That day when he ate Abhi's sandwich she ticked him off and more importantly she raised the question in Shivam's mind why he ate that sandwich.

Shivam really did not have an answer to that.

One can't make or modify kids's behaviour by using punishments and forcing them to do the right things.

I don't think Anandi expected Abhi to apologise to Shivam too.Had they been friends also they would have pulled pranks on each other and troubled each other Because it is a trait of childhood.

Pulling pranks on each other is not the issue the reason behind them and how kids react to those pranks is the issue.

Here Anandi doesn't realise that pranks done by Abhi are coming out of resentment and Shivam trying to outdo Abhi and teach him lessons.

Anandi should spend more efforts in doing what ever she is doing at least she is on the right path there even if she is going at a snail pace.

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