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leavesandwaves

@leavesandwaves

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Posted: 10 years ago

#11

I will not fault Jagya if he shows concern for Shivam. What can he do? Can he curtly say to Shivam to keep away from him and look to his mother? Jagya is the only adult male member and naturally Shivam will look to him. If anandi was a thinking person, she would have realised how Shivam has become somewhat dependent on Jagya for want of a father and How Jagya cant shake him off. But our anandi has stopped thinking deeply about complicated relationships.

Jagya is also right in ticking off Ganga as Ganga is not able to do the right thing with Abhi. Mannu has become a wise kid and that he will be the one who will act as a mediator. A responsible elder brother.

I will give Jagya 100 out of 100.

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

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Posted: 10 years ago

#12

Every one gets 50 only.

They only are seeing half the problem and not the full picture.

Mannu gets 75 because despite being achild he could accomplish something his parents couldn't.

Anandi can only contain Shivam. and try to rein in Shivam's mischievous nature and should restrict Shivam and make him aware that he may be unknowingly stpping into what Abhi considers his territory

Jagya has to realise that he made Abhi feel insecure with his attutude towards him.He may be trying to keep Abhi on the right path by being extra strict with him may be he is trying not to do what Dsa and his parents did with him but if he feels responsibility towards Shivam then he should learn to do balancing act

Ganga should realise that Abhi's behaviour towards Shivam is symptom of Abhi's deeper problem and Shivam is not the root cause

Dadisa - should realise that her family is not a single family but she forced two families to stay together under one roof.

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leavesandwaves

@leavesandwaves

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Posted: 10 years ago

#13

In this context, Jagya is not at fault at all. I will give both Jagya and Mannu 100 out of 100.

Anandi 20 out of 100 and Ganga 50 out of 100.

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SPuja

@SPuja

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Posted: 10 years ago

#14

Jagya cannot get 100 because he has not done anything to solve the problem and has not even understood why Abhi is reacting as such. I will not judge Mannu - he is a child himself and doing what he can - he is trying to mend his own brother while ignoring any mischief from Shivam's side. The elders are more to blame - DS gets least marks from me - she is the one who is supposed to be most experienced and she has more time with kids compared to Anandi/Jagya/Ganga.

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libsrocks

@libsrocks

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Posted: 10 years ago

#15

I don't blame Jagya for trying to be caring towards Shivam...admit it or not but most of the time sympathy does come out for a child who has lost one of his parent. Jagya loves Shivam so he does not want Shivam to feel the loss of his father when that love can be compensated by his's. Not to mention it will be difficult and bit cruel if Jagya showers fatherly love and care to his own kids but ignores Shivam...Didn't Alok played a father-like role in Mahi's life? Its but natural that Jagya can only show his fatherly love towards Shivam, not authority! Even in our relatives many of them shower us with love and concern equavilent to our parents but how many scold us just like our parents? Hardly few becoz they do not want the parent of the child to feel they are interfering or dominating the kid.

Now thats wht is Abhi's problem. Since Shivam has lived whole of his life till now in BH Abhi sees him as a family but he is unable to understand why his father loves Shivam but not scolds or punishes him like he does to him. He feels discriminated in that area which is neither his fault nor Shivam and nor Jagya's. Even if Jagya makes him understand the whole fatherless kid situation he won't be able to curb Abhi's jealousy because all love, no scolding for Shivam will be a constant thing for Abhi to watch as Shivam stays in BH.

I agree with one of the reply...BV never concentrates on the wrong done by leads ( and now by their kids)...Abhi just left Shivam in school, whatever happened after that was whole of Shivam's fault and Anandi should have scolded Shivam for that. Even in past Anandi herself has never been scolded much for her insensibility in solving problens or for looking for solution in impractical manner...God forbid if someone does gave the sense to do so he or she will have to ask for

for forgiveness in the end.

The solution for this is for Anandi to move out of BH...since Anandi is now very much dependent on DSa and Jagya to help her in taking care of Shivashe won't be able to manage going out of Jaitsar or back to Udaipur but she should definitely move out of BH

What i don't get why everyone here is so against scolding and little beating? Maybe Abhi doesn't deserve it in this case but being absolutely linient or always trying to solve the issues by talking does not do well with kids. My parents have never been harsh on me and we have such open relation that during my teenage years i had openly aske them all the doubt regarding sex knowledge but there were times when parents have slapped me too. I feel parents should be little strict with kids in their childhood because when kids growup most of them start ignoring all the talks with their parents and at that time only those scolding and slaps are remembered by them to know what their parents are capable if they don't listen to them.

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

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Posted: 10 years ago

#16

Jagya is only giving what the rest of the Shekhar family members would have given to Shivam.

He is only filling in for the Shekhar family members and not filling in for Shiv.

But the issue is that he should make Abhi understand the reasons why he is being lenient on Shivam.

He should let Abhi know that he gets scoldings because he is inthe wrong should explain like the Mannu had explained to Abhi. In that conversation with Mannu - even Abhi had come across like a sorted out kid and knew what his problem in life is.

Anandi can only find reasons for Shivam's behaviour and check them and she is getting there though she has a long way to go.The communication channels between her and Shivam are open and it's two way process it is very likely they will come to an understanding soon.

Abhi and J, Ganga and J need to open up and convey their thoughts on these issues to each other

Mannu is a very sensible kid but the fact is he is still a kid so what is supposed to be the parents responsibility should not be passed on to him.

Dsa is DELIBERATELY CLOSING HER EYES in her desire to keep her Ladli Anandi and her Ladesar Jagya close to her. So there is no point expecting anything from her.

Two things that are needed - More space for the two families and their children

Two way communication that is sorely needed in case of Jagya and his family members

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leavesandwaves

@leavesandwaves

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Posted: 10 years ago

#17

If at all somebody is to be slapped, it will be anandi and dadisa in that order.😉

To drill some sense into their brains.

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

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Posted: 10 years ago

#18

If Jagya dumps Anandi - Anandi shd be slapped because she didn't make a gud wife to Jagya

If Jagya dumps Gauri - Anandi shd be slapped because she made Gauri look bad in comparision

If Jagya chases Anandi - she should be slapped it is all her fault that his family kicked him out

If Jagya rushes to get engaged to Sanchi thinking he is doing a great favour to Anandi she shd be slapped for making his family convince him to marry Sanchi

If J agya dumps Sacnhi Anandi should be slapped because Sanchi was not at all like Anandi

If J rushes to marry Ganga Anandi should be slapped too because of that Sanchi did suicide drama

If Shiv is angry because his sister was dumped by Jagyashe shd be slapped too because she made Shiv angry

If Jagya doesn't know how to raise his son that is also Anandi 's fault she should be sllaped for that too

She should also be slapped for the neighbouring countries losing matches in the world cup because it is all her fault

She should also be slapped for just about everything that is happening around the world. Because it is her fault .How dare a character like her exist?

How dare she lives despite her husband dying? She should be slapped for that too.

Tomorrow if she dies she should be slapped for dying too

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leavesandwaves

@leavesandwaves

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Posted: 10 years ago

#19

In the present context. Past is past. Present is what matters.

One cant defend anandi because of the past.

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aparnauma

@GoodDoc_2105

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Posted: 10 years ago

#20

Even in the present state she is only acting in the interests of her children.

She doesn't like living in BH she wanted to live on her own but was convinced that her kids need more than just a mother they need family support too.Now she is getting support from Dsa

She is a single mother working woman she does need all the support her kid can get - Dsa takes care of her kid in her absence.

Ganga and she share responsibilities in taking care of kids needs

Why should she be impractical and mahan and deny the help she is getting?

Jaitser Singhs Anandi and now Jagya have gathered a lot of good will from people and public machinery that is aiding her in her search for her lost daughter.So it definitely is easier for her to conduct search operations out of Jaitser.

So why should she not take all this into account?

If Abhi is not explained properly by his parents why should Anandi be slapped for that?

She is doing her bit by trying to keep check on Shivam.

No matter what it is J who is at fault for not paying attention to his son.If his son is sure of his place in his father's life all this wouldn't happen.

The fact is Abhi resents Shivam because of his own insecurity and for that his family elders namely J and Dsa should be faulted.

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