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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Prags_Sociopath

Mischy. Just read your awesome reply. You pretty much differentiated the love of the kinds.

A real love, could may be far far off what we see in fiction. Maybe that's why we like the love we see in fiction, coz that's like you won't get to see in real life, quite rare, very rare actually!

I think this kinda intense love we only get to see/read in fiction.


thank you so much... yes exactly this concept of love is very beautiful very pure and rarity in real life actually... n thats y we love to see/read such kind of love in fiction... its beauty of this kinda love bcz its seen only in fiction,is less talked about and seen ... we enjoy those things in fiction which we cant actually get... like i know for all practical purposes most of the girls and hopeless romantics like me do have their fantasy world .. every girl thinks about their "soul mate" n have imagined a guy who would one day come for her n would make her life beautiful.. i think its inherent in a girl's nature.. obviously "our dream man" is a fiction only .. mine is a "super human being" n its not possible to find one in the reality but that doesnot keep me thinking about him... still for all pratical purposes i know the one i'll actually get wont be like him n i'll accept him fo rwhat he is... the concept of love of fiction n reality r 2 different things ... and while we step in practical life we learn how to let go of that n accept the reality wholeheartedly... i mean those people are lucky who get the ones they want in real life too... but others get maturity and its also not a bad deal ... 😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: Prags_Sociopath

Mischy. Just read your awesome reply. You pretty much differentiated the love of the kinds.

A real love, could may be far far off what we see in fiction. Maybe that's why we like the love we see in fiction, coz that's like you won't get to see in real life, quite rare, very rare actually!

I think this kinda intense love we only get to see/read in fiction.



Prags, what I would say in response to this is that "Life Imitates Art" or maybe more truthfully "Art imitates Life!" Even in real life, great love stories HAVE happened, and that is were the inspiration for these writers comes from! Pure forms of love DO exist, and selfless love exists too! Rare, but it IS there!

But one saying is universally true "It is better to have loved and lost, than not loved at all!" No matter how miserable love makes you, you HAVE to experience it at least one time in your life, or you have not lived!

I don't believe that every relationship has a name! Sanam and Aahil have now come to a point where even THEIR relationship is nameless. They are no longer husband and wife, they are not girlfriend and boyfriend. But they are in love, with each other! But Aahil is technically married to someone else. In MY mind, SAHIL's relationship is above ALL these superficial bonds!


Aahil got married to a women he had not even seen! He didn't marry Sanam 2 at all. In my mind, he has no real commitment to her! I respect marriage and commitment very much. I myself am married and I have never wavered in my commitment to my husband ever in the past nearly 8 years of marriage. However, Aahil's marriage is not a true commitment, because that can only be given from the HEART! I don't believe in staying married because you "Got" married. If it was the wrong decision, you can and SHOULD undo it! I think Aahil needs to understand this, just like Zoya did when she married Ayaan! Despite her belief in "Ta Umar" Nikah, she knew that her marriage to Ayaan was not sustainable, coz she could never stop loving Asad. HE was her true love. So staying married while watching your true love and longing for him is a LOT worse than divorcing a man you can't love!


Aahil will have to make the same call here! He cant stay married to Sanam 2, coz he has NO feelings for her, and once he realizes that Sanam never cheated him, he wont be able to stay away from her. Because he LOVES her! So he will have to decide to cut this tie off, which he himself didn't even agree to in the first place. One he realizes what Tanveer is really like, he will know she didn't get him married to Sanam 2 to "Save their Izzat" as she calls it, but to actually trap him further! So it wont be hard for him to make the call then. THAT is when things will really get ugly. But how things progress from now...God only knows?



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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Mandy- on Aahil's marriage, i think he married Sanam in his mind when he took the vows,the woman under the veil was his love for him.
I won't call this a marriage at all. He married HER name,
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Posted: 10 years ago
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This should go in the disclaimer actually😆 i tried hard to think of an analogy to make it clear to the LOVE that wouldn't hurt. IMO, if you think of love as a journey it's the DESTINATION, anywhere in between is only a stop that gets you closer or farther to your DESTINATION. Oh yeah, i know the journey becomes the destination bit,but you haven't arrived if you haven't reached the finishing point and you are only a traveller as long as you are on the way not the one who has arrived.

You might call infatuation,lust,admiration,respect,acceptance and everything else shades of love, but it is NOT.
Trying harder here, if i want to bake a cake and gather all the ingredients that go into the recipe, i can't look at the butter and flour and say it's the cake. They have potential to be the cake😆 but no,they are not the cake yet. So,let's not call the cracked egg and whipped cream cake,cake is what you get after baking and it smells good and is delicious.

That's an half-baked attempt to explain. 🤣

You guys have fun, i'll peep in.
Have a great day!
Edited by simran_singh_24 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: simran_singh_24

This should go in the disclaimer actually😆 i tried hard to think of an analogy to make it clear to the LOVE that wouldn't hurt. IMO, if you think of love as a journey it's the DESTINATION, anywhere in between is only a stop that gets you closer or further to your DESTINATION. Oh yeah, i know the journey becomes the destination bit,but you haven't arrived if you haven't reached the finishing point and you are only a traveller not the one who has arrived.

You might call infatuation,lust,admiration,respect,acceptance and everything else shades of love, but it is NOT.
Trying harder here, if i want to bake a cake and gather all the ingredients that go into the recipe, i can't look at the butter and flour and say it's the cake. They have potential to be the cake😆 but not they are not the cake yet. So,let's not call the cracked egg and whipped cream cake,cake is what you get after baking and it smells good and is delicious.

That's an half-baked attempt to explain. 🤣

You guys have fun, i'll peep in.
Have a great day!

Simran, thats why I'd say Love and cake are so different.
In my opinion all of life's experiences are journeys and they end with life Love is also one of the experiences.
We'll continue to walk till HE tells us to stop.
How according to you is the end product of Aahil Sanam's love? When they get married? have kids? Should Aahil have gone to look for Sanam- would that be love then? Should Aahil have recognised another woman in Seher? would that be love?
on cakes there are cakes and then there are my cakes(they do not smell good and delicious) so would we not call them cake😕. They have same ingredients I swear. And do I learn.. no I never stop baking and trying . I am no Sanam with perfect techniques(cooking techniques only -strictly)
I'd say Aahil's love is like a tasteless useless cake(just the kind I bake) that no one likes to eat.. but love to hai usse...
Sanam's cake has all the good ingredients (like some others make)... usse bhi love hai..
Mujhe bhi love hai... har use cake se which I have not baked😳
Heck dont talk about cake pls..I am trying to loose weight her😡
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JShukla

Simran, thats why I'd say Love and cake are so different.

In my opinion all of life's experiences are journeys and they end with life Love is also one of the experiences.
We'll continue to walk till HE tells us to stop.
How according to you is the end product of Aahil Sanam's love? When they get married? have kids? Should Aahil have gone to look for Sanam- would that be love then? Should Aahil have recognised another woman in Seher? would that be love?
on cakes there are cakes and then there are my cakes(they do not smell good and delicious) so would we not call them cake😕. They have same ingredients I swear. And do I learn.. no I never stop baking and trying . I am no Sanam with perfect techniques(cooking techniques only -strictly)
I'd say Aahil's love is like a tasteless useless cake(just the kind I bake) that no one likes to eat.. but love to hai usse...
Sanam's cake has all the good ingredients (like some others make)... usse bhi love hai..
Mujhe bhi love hai... har use cake se which I have not baked😳
Heck dont talk about cake pls..I am trying to loose weight her😡


let's skip cake here.😆 FYI- i've not baked in years. Talk abt a process and the end product.
My point is the process of falling in love is not "LOVE". you are still working thr' physical attraction,ego issues to reach a soul-connection.
SaHil- post marriage would ideally be being in LOVE. That's a different state of being don't you think? Or would they forever be falling in LOVE? I
I don't know..
Edited by simran_singh_24 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#77
Dear ladies, thanks for sharing your thoughts on what bothers us all😆

I enjoyed reading all the comments and the spirited discussion we had here. Apologies for not responding to some individually.

I'm officially over this show and have migrated to other shows and forums, so won't be active here any more.

For all those who have found the love that doesn't hurt,hope you'll have it for life time/s and those who are seeking it good luck in finding,en-route don't mistake what hurts for what it is.

In the unlikely chance of missing me, PM me, will respond.😃

Cheers

Simran.
Edited by simran_singh_24 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Simran, I know you have signed off.
I had pretty much stayed to see KVB back on screen. and the maximum I expected from him is he trying to ignore Sanam while he remains around her and the ensuing tashan. Really this is the max that I expected. I had not signed up for he making her a servant, a maid to a courtesan , insulting her openly in front of family and servants.
this is very regressive and it revolted me. I also see that people feel he is very much in love... And I am quoting my last post from one of Mandy's simlar post. ... not sure Simran if you read it, but I appreciate your intelligence of quitting when it made sense. I am also over my crush on Aahil. He does not deserve it.
----------------------my copy pasted post below---------
The abusers are of varying degrees.
Certainly Samrat from Doli Armaano.. is more abusive. But that does not make Aahil non-abusive. He is just a shade less abusive.
Why else will he want to humiliate his wife in front of family and friends. I hate that Lateef to this date does not respect Sanam like a begum. All because Aahil never made anyone respect her. And now again she will be disrespected. The whole of Bhopal will know Aahil is married to 2 Sanams and one of the Sanams is the servant and is made to dance in a 'bhari mehfill'.
there is no pain or regret in his eyes. Just curosity if what he did was heartbreaking enough. I think we all must know that a man who insults you is certainly not doing it out of love. Aahil's plans are all calculated and measured. Not done in a fit of anger.
What is classic Aahil? Classic Abuser? Mostly they want their victims to stay in front of them to suffer endlessly, beg for mercy while they enjoy the view. At present he looks like that.
I did not see any regret in his eyes. Or is it coz KV has forgotten how to act?
For now, only Rehan-Seher and Rahat-Haya have a healthy relationship. Rehan -Seher will have to come to terms with each other's treachery and they alone will sort it out like 2 loved ones should. Ditto with Rahat-Haya. See how they sorted out their own problems themselves. Now thats a hero.
No Woman must think that a man loves her when he is behaving like Aahil is behaving with Sanam. Period. It is not love. If Sanam has some sense she must quickly run for her life. Save herself while she can revenge and Ahil be damned. Remorseless sister be damned.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JShukla

Simran, I know you have signed off.
I had pretty much stayed to see KVB back on screen. and the maximum I expected from him is he trying to ignore Sanam while he remains around her and the ensuing tashan. Really this is the max that I expected. I had not signed up for he making her a servant, a maid to a courtesan , insulting her openly in front of family and servants.
this is very regressive and it revolted me. I also see that people feel he is very much in love... And I am quoting my last post from one of Mandy's simlar post. ... not sure Simran if you read it, but I appreciate your intelligence of quitting when it made sense. I am also over my crush on Aahil. He does not deserve it.
I did read it.,hey thanks for the compliment on my wise choice.😃 I'm happy this show ended for me with Aahil's confession and i didn't hang around to watch the destruction of his character and hate him more.

----------------------my copy pasted post below---------
The abusers are of varying degrees.
Certainly Samrat from Doli Armaano.. is more abusive. But that does not make Aahil non-abusive. He is just a shade less abusive.
Samart is the worst case, Abhi and Aahil are on the same class, IMO. Zee is the most regressive of all Hindi GECs.

Why else will he want to humiliate his wife in front of family and friends. I hate that Lateef to this date does not respect Sanam like a begum. All because Aahil never made anyone respect her. And now again she will be disrespected. The whole of Bhopal will know Aahil is married to 2 Sanams and one of the Sanams is the servant and is made to dance in a 'bhari mehfill'.
there is no pain or regret in his eyes. Just curosity if what he did was heartbreaking enough. I think we all must know that a man who insults you is certainly not doing it out of love. Aahil's plans are all calculated and measured. Not done in a fit of anger.
What is classic Aahil? Classic Abuser? Mostly they want their victims to stay in front of them to suffer endlessly, beg for mercy while they enjoy the view. At present he looks like that.
I did not see any regret in his eyes. Or is it coz KV has forgotten how to act?
For now, only Rehan-Seher and Rahat-Haya have a healthy relationship. Rehan -Seher will have to come to terms with each other's treachery and they alone will sort it out like 2 loved ones should. Ditto with Rahat-Haya. See how they sorted out their own problems themselves. Now thats a hero.
Rahat-Haya are all sorted, are they? Glad, some body is happy in this show. Hopefully,viewers will be spared of the Cv's brother-in-law fixation inspired scenes.
No Woman must think that a man loves her when he is behaving like Aahil is behaving with Sanam. Period. It is not love. If Sanam has some sense she must quickly run for her life. Save herself while she can revenge and Ahil be damned. Remorseless sister be damned.

This is what the post was about you know.
Can you really hurt someone you loved once?If you are hurting,have you loved really?

I've no clue about what's going on in QH and from your post it seems Aahil is trying to hurt Sanam,where it hurts her the most,her pride,self-respect.May be in his mind he is revenging &probably making her do what Sehar did earlier,dance inappropriately infront of family &friends.
Lot of women put up with abusive behaviour from men mistaking it for some twisted expression of their care & love🤢 not just in romantic relationship,even between mother and abusive adult children.
I've been rooting for a nice guy for Sanam since Aahil lost his brain during the swap, it'll be good for Sanam to have a positive experience of love from a decent guy,who has some brains and can think independently.

JS, my response in colour.

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