There goes insensitive Archana again

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Archana never made a lot of sense to me. To be honest she is one of the most ridiculous characters I have ever seen on tv. It is better for her to stay away from all love drama of other people because I don't think till date she has ever taken a right decision without harming another.
She was terribly insensitive to Ovi when the whole Arjun Purvi fiasco happened. Ovi was obsessed and she was sick. I thought when she told Purvi she couldn't marry Arjun and then delayed it she had made the right decision. No one wants their daughter to marry a two timing man. But then after she agreed to it she kept bringing the whole marriage thing around Ovi. LIKE WOMAN YOUR DAUGHTER IS A OBSESSIVE SUICIDAL NUTCASE. If you are in such hurry to get your other daughter married to the love of her life can you at least keep it away from her?

Then came Soham. And again she did the same thing. Gauri did not love Sachin. Sachin did not love Gauri. You could've stopped the marriage. Fine, maybe that was a bit too extreme for you, but you could've slowed down the process. You could helped Soham adjust to the idea, or let him recover from the shock. Let him process the pain of a heartbreak. You should've understood how madly your son loved Gauri. And you should've done anything other than rushing them into marriage and expecting Soham to be just cool with it given his history.

Now she wants Pari to help Ankita because Ankita has "no one". You are asking a girl who has suffered two years of heartbreak to go back to a man who she is still in love with? and after she is done helping them you want her to walk out his marriage and marry his best friend? Does Pari's feelings or mental state mean nothing? From what it seems like after Pari lost Aman she had become cold and no longer believed in love. That is serious.

I feel like Archana has always put everything else in life above her love for Manav. Love is too rational for her. It is nice that she has Manav now but she can live a life without him as well. I feel like she truly does not get the heartbreak and the pain one suffers even though you would think she suffered it herself from being apart from Manav for so long. But wait, yeah she had her mom and and her daughter. That is all you need. Heartbreak must only be a problem when you have "no one"

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I love archana.only stupid people cry over break ups.her love for manav was ideal it was selfless.she never blamed anyone even manav when they divorced.she never showed anybody not even to her mother how hurt she is over her broken marriage always face the life with a smile.never had any bitterness for anyone.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonalak

I love archana.only stupid people cry over break ups.her love for manav was ideal it was selfless.she never blamed anyone even manav when they divorced.she never showed anybody not even to her mother how hurt she is over her broken marriage always face the life with a smile.never had any bitterness for anyone.


Why only stupid ppl cry over break ups?! Thats an unfair generalisation and disrespectful to the people who actually suffered through and felt real heartache and pain.

Yes, her love for Manav was real and SHE too DID cry as was shown in many episodes. So I guess she too falls into the stupid ppl category by your own yardstick.

As for what the TM is saying, yes... I agree, Archana is sometimes insensitive to the point that it comes off as stupidity. She is however lead of the show, so they probably think its being "mahaan".

Edited by Ashlaika - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Exactly, Archana is very insensitive if you look deep into her character. From the whole Varsha track (giving her baby to her sister), to being blind to Ovi's - her daughter - suffering, to even the way she handled the Soham/Gauri situation, she has come off as insensitive.

Now she's just emphasizing the already clear character trait with this whole Pari thing. She doesn't even know that Ankita is her grand daughter yet, so who is Ankita doing this for? A stranger who conveniently has the same face as you? Okay fine, even if you're doing it as a good samaritan, is it a very "mahaan" thing to see your own grand daughter go through heartbreak?

With Varsha, she didn't give two damns about Manav. For Ovi, she kept on rubbing it in her face that the man who she was crazy about was getting married to her sister - where was the compassion for her daughter?! Even when Ovi left for Canada, she was shunned for hiding her pregnancy when her other daughter did the same thing and was treated completely differently. Once the truth was out, it was still the same jaap for Purvi - as far as I remember, there was no such scene where Archana confronted Purvi and told her that the assumption Purvi made was wrong, and because of Purvi's assumption, Archana had to live away from her daughter, Pari had to live away from her father, and Purvi had to separate from her husband for 20 whole years. She acts like she's so fair to all of her children and gives lectures all the time, but where did the lecture go then?

Now she is putting Pari is in this situation where she has to go back to the boy she has been trying to forget for the last two years for Ankita's sake. Why would you send your own daughter to a slaughter house, knowing that she was in love with Naren? All Pari would get from this is a daily reminder that she will never get Naren back because he's in love with someone else, and she's just being raised as a pig for slaughter. Once Naren realizes his marriage and accepts Ankita, she would have to walk out of his life with the biggest heartbreak ever. =/
Edited by ilovepyaar - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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On the tee TM...

There are many things that do not make sense in PR but what takes the cake is the insensitivity of a lead characters ( be it Archana, Manav, Arjun, Purvi and of late even Ankita at one point or another)

Since the topic is about Archana, I would not go to other characters I've listed inside the parenthesis above... And since I had started watching PR only after the initial 18 years leap, I'd limit my post to the happenings after that only...

Yeah you are right, during the whole Arjun Purvi and Ovi fiasco, Archana did INDEED act very insensitively towards Ovi.. Although I am an Arvi fan, I would say Archana did indeed rub Arjun Purvi's marriage over Ovi's face-- I did feel sorry for Ovi then.. Although Manav too did not do anything great to take Ovi out of her obsessive suicidal frenzy, except advising her to forget Arjun and giving her tickets to return to Canada, Archana's love for Purvi did take precedence over Ovi's pain..

You have put it lucidly about Soham.. Nothing for me to add..

I would also say that she had also been insensitive towards Teju.. I will take back my words if they show something otherwise in flashbacks or so, but based on whatever had been showed till today, I would say that she had not been very sensitive towards Teju too..

Another thing that I find quite sensitive about her is her need to choose just one child at a time... It is either Purvi over Ovi or Ovi over Purvi ; it is always Sachin over Soham... There was no need for her to do so--- a sensible , heart to heart communication with her children would have solved a lot of things...C'mon ya!! Parents might be angry with their children, but except under extreme circumstaces they do not shun them completely...

Of late, I am appalled at reading the WUs... So Archana wants Pari to help Ankita cure Naren--- W*F Archana??? This is a girl who had suffered a heartbreak and you are asking her to take the same en route again for a stranger???? And the acme of insensitivity is she is your granddaughter, the same child you have nurtured and seen growing up... What if the emotions that Pari has suppressed with so much effort resurfaces?? The girl will be left high and dry ONCE again. This time the wounds would be deeper-- perhaps they would NEVER heal...And to what gain??? --- To give a stranger ( till today) her happiness back at the cost of Pari's breakdown ... Seems she had not learnt her lesson from Arjun-Purvi-Ovi fiasco...

I would blame PR CVs for this heights of insensitivity with regards to parenting and guardianship... If anything, PR is a show of GROSS parenting and equally gross guardianship barring a few characters...


Edited by bitasta - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovepyaar

Exactly, Archana is very insensitive if you look deep into her character. From the whole Varsha track (giving her baby to her sister), to being blind to Ovi's - her daughter - suffering, to even the way she handled the Soham/Gauri situation, she has come off as insensitive.

Now she's just emphasizing the already clear character trait with this whole Pari thing. She doesn't even know that Ankita is her grand daughter yet, so who is Ankita doing this for? A stranger who conveniently has the same face as you? Okay fine, even if you're doing it as a good samaritan, is it a very "mahaan" thing to see your own grand daughter go through heartbreak?

With Varsha, she didn't give two damns about Manav. For Ovi, she kept on rubbing it in her face that the man who she was crazy about was getting married to her sister - where was the compassion for her daughter?! Even when Ovi left for Canada, she was shunned for hiding her pregnancy when her other daughter did the same thing and was treated completely differently. Once the truth was out, it was still the same jaap for Purvi - as far as I remember, there was no such scene where Archana confronted Purvi and told her that the assumption Purvi made was wrong, and because of Purvi's assumption, Archana had to live away from her daughter, Pari had to live away from her father, and Purvi had to separate from her husband for 20 whole years. She acts like she's so fair to all of her children and gives lectures all the time, but where did the lecture go then?

Now she is putting Pari is in this situation where she has to go back to the boy she has been trying to forget for the last two years for Ankita's sake. Why would you send your own daughter to a slaughter house, knowing that she was in love with Naren? All Pari would get from this is a daily reminder that she will never get Naren back because he's in love with someone else, and she's just being raised as a pig for slaughter. Once Naren realizes his marriage and accepts Ankita, she would have to walk out of his life with the biggest heartbreak ever. =/

Agree that Archana is sometimes insensitive.

But how is Purvi responsible for Archana staying away from her daughter? That is on Archana's wrong as a mother that she did not investigate.

And the whole Purvi jaap thing. If Archana wanted too she would have gotten Arjun and Ovi's marriage annulled. But she didn't.

The situations in which both got pregnant were different. Purvi found out she was pregnant after Arjun and Ovi got married. Ovi knew she was pregnant (most likely) while she was divorcing Arjun and choose to keep him in the dark.

Imo the whole thing was pretty stupid and created for the leap. But thats beside the point.

Archana was definitely insensitive to Ovi but she was also insensitive to Purvi and her other children as well.

Archana did not always do Purvi Jaap. If so she would have never allowed Arjun- Ovi to be continued to get married, let a pregnant Purvi be forced out of her own home, or even care to support her when she wanted a divorce from Arjun.

Anyways I don't want to continue with this Arjun-Purvi-Ovi stuff as it is thankfully over.

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Im really feeling horrible for Pari. Archana doesn't realize that Pari also has a heart. She was the one who was saying so firmly that Pari HAD to move on and WILL marry Shekhar. Now she wants Pari to go back to her past and live death each day. Knowing that the man she loves and his trying to help can never be hers because he is married to someone else.

Just because Ankita has no one doesn't mean that they make hasty decisions for her temporary peace of mind. Making Naren fall in love with Pari all over again then learning that he is married and having a child with Ankita will leave Pari heartbroken.

Archana can be a sacrifice queen but she doesnt need to force that onto others.


Edited by -LiveLaughLove- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -LiveLaughLove-

Agree that Archana is sometimes insensitive.

But how is Purvi responsible for Archana staying away from her daughter? That is on Archana's wrong as a mother that she did not investigate.

And the whole Purvi jaap thing. If Archana wanted too she would have gotten Arjun and Ovi's marriage annulled. But she didn't.

The situations in which both got pregnant were different. Purvi found out she was pregnant after Arjun and Ovi got married. Ovi knew she was pregnant (most likely) while she was divorcing Arjun and choose to keep him in the dark.

Imo the whole thing was pretty stupid and created for the leap. But thats beside the point.

Archana did not always do Purvi Jaap. If so she would have never allowed Arjun- Ovi to be continued to get married, let a pregnant Purvi be forced out of her own home, or even care to support her when she wanted a divorce from Arjun.

Anyways I don't want to continue with this Arjun-Purvi-Ovi stuff as it is thankfully over.

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Im really feeling horrible for Pari. Archana doesn't realize that Pari also has a heart. She was the one who was saying so firmly that Pari HAD to move on and WILL marry Shekhar. Now she wants Pari to go back to her past and live death each day. Knowing that the man she loves and his trying to help can never be hers because he is married to someone else.

Just because Ankita has no one doesn't mean that they make hasty decisions for her temporary peace of mind. Making Naren fall in love with Pari all over again then learning that he is married and having a child with Ankita will leave Pari heartbroken.



I never blamed Purvi for it, I said Archana showed her insensitivity during that scenario as well. What I meant by Purvi jaap was that she should have told Purvi that listen, your wrong assumption lead to so many lives being ruined, which brings me back to the insensitivity point - she was insensitive to Pari's feelings even then. =/ I agree with you - that drama was created without logic and for the sake of a leap.
Edited by ilovepyaar - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: bitasta

On the tee TM...


There are many things that do not make sense in PR but what takes the cake is the insensitivity of a lead characters ( be it Archana, Manav, Arjun, Purvi and of late even Ankita at one point or another)

Since the topic is about Archana, I would not go to other characters I've listed inside the parenthesis above... And since I had started watching PR only after the initial 18 years leap, I'd limit my post to the happenings after that only...

Yeah you are right, during the whole Arjun Purvi and Ovi fiasco, Archana did INDEED act very insensitively towards Ovi.. Although I am an Arvi fan, I would say Archana did indeed rub Arjun Purvi's marriage over Ovi's face-- I did feel sorry for Ovi then.. Although Manav too did not do anything great to take Ovi out of her obsessive suicidal frenzy, except advising her to forget Arjun and giving her tickets to return to Canada, Archana's love for Purvi did take precedence over Ovi's pain..

You have put it lucidly about Soham.. Nothing for me to add..

I would also say that she had also been insensitive towards Teju.. I will take back my words if they show something otherwise in flashbacks or so, but based on whatever had been showed till today, I would say that she had not been very sensitive towards Teju too..

Another thing that I find quite sensitive about her is her need to choose just one child at a time... It is either Purvi over Ovi or Ovi over Purvi ; it is always Sachin over Soham... C'mon ya!! Parents might be angry with their children, but except under extreme circumstances, they do not shun them completely...

Of late, I am appalled at reading the WUs... So Archana wants Pari to help Ankita cure Naren--- W*F Archana??? This is a girl who had suffered a heartbreak and you are asking her to take the same en route again for a stranger???? And the acme of insensitivity is she is your granddaughter, the same child you have nurtured and seen growing up... What if the emotions that Pari has suppressed with so much effort resurfaces?? The girl will be left high and dry ONCE again. This time the wounds would be deeper-- perhaps they would NEVER heal...And to what gain??? --- To give a stranger ( till today) her happiness back at the cost of Pari's breakdown ... Seems she had not learnt her lesson from Arjun-Purvi-Ovi fiasco...

I would blame PR CVs for this heights of insensitivity with regards to parenting and guardianship... If anything, PR is a show of GROSS parenting and equally gross guardianship barring a few characters...


Nura I can't agree more!
This makes no sense whatsoever to me!
If you can't balance it out don't have more than one kid!!

So many issues could have been avoided.

a) waiting for Ovi's state-of-mind to get back in control before ArVi's marriage
b) annulling the deal marriage
c) Soham's heart break
d) forgetting about Teju in all of the mess

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ilovepyaar



I never blamed Purvi for it, I said Archana showed her insensitivity during that scenario as well. What I meant by Purvi jaap was that she should have told Purvi that listen, your wrong assumption lead to so many lives being ruined, which brings me back to the insensitivity point - she was insensitive to Pari's feelings even then. =/ I agree with you - that drama was created without logic and for the sake of a leap.

Ahh I see yes definitely Archana was insensitive during those scenarios. I don't know why she has to pick one thing. She doesn't know BALANCE. Always one thing over another.
Just because she wants one thing doesn't mean everyone else does. The way she was talking to Manav and Damodar after finding out the Ahaana truth really angered me. She had no sense of pity for Pari nor did she commend her on trying to move on in such a difficult situation.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Perfangel5655

Archana never made a lot of sense to me. To be honest she is one of the most ridiculous characters I have ever seen on tv. Now she wants Pari to help Ankita because Ankita has "no one". You are asking a girl who has suffered two years of heartbreak to go back to a man who she is still in love with? and after she is done helping them you want her to walk out his marriage and marry his best friend? Does Pari's feelings or mental state mean nothing? From what it seems like after Pari lost Aman she had become cold and no longer believed in love. That is serious.[/DIV]

I feel like Archana has always put everything else in life above her love for Manav. Love is too rational for her.. That is all you need. Heartbreak must only be a problem when you have "no one"



I certainly agree!

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