The Killing Curse

The Unforgivable curses , earn any wizard or witch a one way ticket to Azakaban... sure they would , for they are unforgivable.

Yet , to be able to use the curses on one, would require an immense and all consuming desire to inflict the pain,or the desire to kill or the desire to possess, one to do evil.

The killing curse, the most evil of all the curses, that tears a soul apart of the one who casts it, leaves no sign... , it is so believed.

But yet, there is one boy , who stands an exception... Harry Potter....

If one could recollect, during the fight at the ministry in the 5th year, Harry, attempts to use the unforgivable curse against Bellatrix Lestrange, it isnt as effective as it is to be and Bellatrix tells him , "you've to really mean it boy..."...

Well, what is the point I am trying to get at ... well it is , Voldermort tried to kill harry , using the Killing curse , but it didnt really fall through and worse still it backfired....and the man who cast it, was reduced to a merely ghostly existence.

Could it be , that Voldermort didnt really mean to? Or was distracted , by a stray thought about , if he was right in identifying Harry as the one, if his deduction abt the person was indeed right and although it is never told to us, but it is the first time, Voldermort was possibly killing a baby and not an adult and if that had indeed distracted him... to not believe the prophecy...and it is that which caused... the curse he cast , to fail ... and backfire?

I do not in anyway intend to associate humane qualities to Voldermort, but the possiblity of the arrogance of being invincible inducing a fleeting moment of self doubt abt his inference of the boy who shall vanquish him...

I for one feel , that , although it has been told to us.... by the author , that no one was able to figure out why the killing curse and the power Harry had was that of love... , the reason for the killing curse to fail... seemed to be revealed to us .... in a strange and subtle way.... in the books and for me , the fight at the ministry and Harry trying to use the unforgivable "Cruciatus" curse on Bellatrix, I felt it was a giveaway, the unforgivable curses too , could fail... and worse backfire...

And yeah Harry was able to save himself agaisnt the killing curse yet again... during his fourth year, but by this time, we all know, Harry had been imparted with power by the Dark Lord himself , which would mark him as his equal!

Would love to know your thoughts...

Sareeta

Originally posted by: xMarauderx

But this would imply that there is still some humanity left in Voldemort.
And after 6 Horcruxes, uncountable murders, and even more atrocities, is it possible that Voldemort would have any humanity left in him??? I didnt intend to suggest that there is humanity left in him,. at all, but that he doubted his own inference... and that his arrogance must have got the better of him.. and mocked at his fear of a baby, who he believed at the point would be the one who shall vanquish him.........

Killing splits the soul apart---DD in HBP. Agreed, no doubt abt it...

A soul is supposed to be the very core of your existence and it reflects you, yourself. DD told Harry that about the incomparable power of a soul, undivided and whole. It implies that to be compassionate and human, you need a whole soul.

In the same vein then, what does it tell about a person who's soul is split...not once but 7 times? DD told Harry that Voldemort surpassed "normal" evil and so how do we re conciliate this with the words "humanity" and "compassion" and "kindness"??? Aforemnetioned, I didnt in any sense intend to assocaite these words to Voldermort .... for I believe it is arrogance and fleeting moment of self doubt that may have resulted in the killing curse failing ...

I am sure that Voldemort, who did not have any qualms in killing innocent Unicorns in the first book to suit his needs, would have any problems killing off a one year old baby...moreover one, that, if given to grow into manhood, could quite possible, defeat him. Would he have allowed that to happen (even though it has indeed happened) if given the chance? No ways.

I don't think that there is any chance for redemption for Voldemort and I don't think he felt any pity for Harry. I am sure he has killed many more young kids in his lifetime.

Plus, dear, the curse worked as it should..it killed. The only abnormality, was not in the curse itself, but in Harry. He had something in him(Lily's love and sacrifice) which acted as a mirror or as a Shield (Protego anyone?) and due t which the curse itself got rebounded upon Voldemort(or the part of his soul in his body atthat time). And it worked perfectly, killing the one it hit.

If there was any problem in the curse itself, then Voldemort would not have been killed but merely injured. He only survived through his Horcruxes. So I don't think it suits at all!

My stand as aforementioned...in response to your reply...😊

Thank you sooooooooo much for chipping in your thoughts....And yeah I am editing the post , since it seems to have conveyed an impression that I am associating humane qualities to Voldermort, which is not the intention....

Originally posted by: sareeta

Thank you sooooooooo much for chipping in your thoughts....And yeah I am editing the post , since it seems to have conveyed an impression that I am associating humane qualities to Voldermort, which is not the intention....

Originally posted by: xMarauderx

Aah okay😃 Welcome dear😳

Well I stand by what I said....even in book1, when Dmbledore's and Mcgonagall are having the conversation in Privet Drive before Hagrid comes on Sirius's motorcycle along with Harry...

DD says that the curse rebounded upon Voldemort...killing him...
if the curse was able to kill him...that means it worked perfectly and that implies Voldemort was able to cast it perfectly well. No self doubt here!

Aaaah, I see your point, hmm... thanks for mentioning that bit in the first book... yeah..

Well I have to say this... I too strongly believe that the cursed worked... on Voldy... coz Harry was given protection... and not for once believed that VOldy has anything humane, he is an manifestation of evil in its in true form I suppose...

Well it was a psssing thought that occured to me , while reading the bit abt Bellatrix telling Harry "You;ve got to mean it boy... for its an unforgivable curse" and thought I 'd share it... though, I have to admit, I didnt believe it completely myself , but couldnt brush it off as not being a possibility...

I guess, self doubt was a an iappropriate word I used for Voldermort, I should rather say....it was a fleeting momemtn of reconsideration, or the pause... that one spends rethinking... or distraction... coz often arrogance and sense of being invincible , gives one , a lightheadedness, that often makes them overlook , a lot of things... and often simple but yet powerful detals that lead to their downfall, as in this case Lily's powerful magic of love... that she gave Harry as protection!!! Hmm...

Thanks so much for sharing your views.... Umm... I dont know your real name , and I see, that you are addressed as Harshu, may I call you that as well? 😊

Originally posted by: shriyaroxxx

well, i have to say that ur theory is good, no doubt 😊 .... but as harshu said, it would mean that voldy 😡 🤢 has humanity left in him, & that, honestly, is impossible

Thanks Shriya....

Well as I have mentioned in my previous comment, I have to say this... I too strongly believe that the cursed worked... but backfired on Voldy... never said or intended to say VOldy has anything humane, but I too believe he is an manifestation of evil in its in true form.....and in its strongest form as well.......

Well it was a psssing thought that occured to me , while reading the bit abt Bellatrix telling Harry "You;ve got to mean it boy... for its an unforgivable curse" and thought I 'd share it... though, I have to admit, I didnt believe it completely myself , but couldnt brush it off as not being a possibility...

Originally posted by: sareeta

Well it was a psssing thought that occured to me , while reading the bit abt Bellatrix telling Harry "You;ve got to mean it boy... for its an unforgivable curse" and thought I 'd share it... though, I have to admit, I didnt believe it completely myself , but couldnt brush it off as not being a possibility...

I guess, self doubt was a an iappropriate word I used for Voldermort, I should rather say....it was a fleeting momemtn of reconsideration, or the pause... that one spends rethinking... or distraction... coz often arrogance and sense of being invincible , gives one , a lightheadedness, that often makes them overlook , a lot of things... and often simple but yet powerful detals that lead to their downfall, as in this case Lily's powerful magic of love... that she gave Harry as protection!!! Hmm...

Thanks so much for sharing your views.... Umm... I dont know your real name , and I see, that you are addressed as Harshu, may I call you that as well? 😊

Originally posted by: xMarauderx

ey yeah...Voldemort sure was a whole lot arrogant and he did take many things for granted...like he believed he was fulfilling the prophecy by killng Harry(the boy whom he tought would be more dangerous to him than Neville) and maybe..just maybe...Lily was working on something like a Shield against the Death Curse...or maybe she discovered some ancient magic of some form and evoked it on that fateful day??? Quite possible , that , yeah, and seventh book seems to be the key to all the questions rather the answer to all the missing links. Well... to think that Lily discovered some ancient magic seems a lil well for the want of a better word a lil too complicated, coz , DD , as JKR has made us believe , it seems that it was a rather simple magic , but one that is powerful nonetheless that Lily Potter used to save her only son.... and Voldy in the fourth boek even accepts it , saying, old magic that your mother used... aah... old magic carelessly dismissing it off.... yet again...

I have read plenty of fanfics about this but the most recent one I read had that Death Shield thingy in it...so I quite liked the idea.
Lily can also have been working for the Dept. of Mysteries...what say??? Coz Jo still hasn't revealed anything significant about Lily that she promised us..
Ok am going off topic here.. Havent read any fanfics as such, but the idea seems plausible, but like I said.... JKR has always stressed it is simple but old magic that is was carelessly overlooked by Voldermort, which is what sets him apart as inhuman for he considers 'love of a dear one' as almost worthless and not worthy of attention as he did on the fateful day!

Anyways...my name is Harshada..n nick is harshu..u can call me harshu😳 After such a long time I read a really huge post on this forum sareeta...so thanks for posting!😳😉 So Harshu it is then! 😉 Thanks a lot..... I have been visiting this forum since a few weeks and have enjoyed it immensely and finally thought might as well post some of my random thoughts abt HP and the possibilities and my take on diff aspects and share them here on the forum ! 😊 Thanksreally for chipping in your opinion and writing...in... means much and enjoyed it immensely dicussing it!