Osman Failed As A Father Today for Zain

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Zain was disturbed seeing the picture, outright denying any hand in what Aliya accused him for.
Jab Kuch ghalat kiya hi nahin, tou darun Kyun ?

But the immediate phone call to his mom. Dad will blame me!

Why? Why would he be blamed? Because Osman Abdullah trusts Aliya more?
Leaving aside whether that's true or not, Why does Zain think so? In this very moment Osman Failed as a father For Zain.

In my eyes however, he was never a good father.

He had a fake result report ready.
He didn't rebuke his son for showing up drunk.
He never instilled religious values in his son.
He offered money to his son 5 lakhs to go to Bhopal.
He got his son married to his Bhanji, forcing him to accept his decision.

And then Osman prayed, that I felt Allah you made me take this decision, instilled this thought in me and I acted on it, now I leave all in your hands.
For a minute don't believe that ZaYa are meant for each other and then ponder over the above dialogue.

Promo's: Osman asks Aliya to make Zain realize he has to work. Really now? Zain's wife has to tell him that? Or Zain's father?

I like Osman for the trust he instills in Aliya and I love every bit of the bond. Yet keeping aside that, he has not been fair to Zain, Has not been a good father.

What do you all think?


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hmm, now that I think about it, maybe you are right.
But then Zain has always been Osman's ladla.
And didn't Suraiya do that too?
Basically, Zain was spoiled a lot and now Aliya is sudhrofying him.
I've always loved the Maamu-Bhanji bond though. <3
There is one thing Osman has always been good at. Understanding Zain and making him understand. He's soft with him and knows about his son very well and knows his mood changes so he doesn't get angry. That, is one quality which I admire in their bond.
So Osman isn't the perfect father, but he's not bad either 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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No Im nt Agree With Ur Comment Becz OSman Understand Zain Very much but Surraiya Spoil zain very Much ... Osman Know if Aaliya Only make Zain Right way to His Life... Osman is Supporting To Aaliya becz Osman want Aaliya to convence Zain Like her Wife So Zain can realize Aaliya Importance in her life .. ... OSman Is Very much Good Father n MAmu...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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agree but i think all the fault here is of suraya she spoiled zain so now osman is trying to bring his son on the right way with the help of aaliya😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't think Osman has failed as a father. Yes, he is not an ideal father but not a failure either. Zain's doubt about Osman not trusting him is not out of his lack of trust on Osman but what Suraiyya has sown in Zain's mind. Yep, Osman trusts Aaliya more not coz his son is not worth of his trust but coz Aaliya is one girl on whom Osman can rely completely that wherever he lacked in upbringing of zain Aaliya will fill that part and make Zain what he is capable off and how Osman wants his son or any father would want to see his son as while Suraiyya has sown in Zain's mind that only she is his well wisher n someone who trusts him n supports him when she hides wrong doings of Zain and in process now has made Zain believe that Aaliya has taken place in Osman's life with those few incidents which Zain can do but Suraiyya did in his place to show wrong of Zain in eyes of Osman. Regarding rebuke, I was glad that he didn't say anything infact just askd Zain to believe his decisions coz Zain was not in the state to earn another wrath from his dad, his frustration, anger regarding marriage made him do that and any further discussion would have just taken him farther. And 5 lakhs, well I found that really realistic coz even in real lives many of us gets reluctant or deny to visit relatives or our native places and Zain had gone there as a kid and since then witnessed n lived a different life about which Osman was well aware so bribed him into along with emotional challenging, which parents of many of us do as well. There is understanding between the two and a space given by Osman to Zain where he tells him whats right and wrong and rest leaves on Zain. The freedom where both can share anything to each other. Have not seen marriage epis yet but what saw from pre bhopal epis and post marriage where he requests Zain to believe in his decision indicated same to me.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Despite the fact that technically its supposed to be Zain above all for Usman, as portrayed by the show...he often falls short when trying to be Aliya's Mamu. It kind of makes me feel a tad bit restless. He got ZaYa married majorly because Zain was the one whom he could gurantee could keep ALIYA happy. Because he was HIS son. What about the other way around. He hadn't spent time with Aliya for ages, how could he take the guarantee that she could kep HIM happy?

I loved the way Usman supported Aliya in the whole shoplifting issue. Absolutely loved it. But I couldn't help thinking...when Aliya told Usman that Zain had locked her out, he didn't even have even that slightest doubt, that maybe, there was some sort of miscommunication, he just straight out believed that Zain did it. And I can't think that even today, had Aliya told Usman about the reporters saying that Zain had gotten the photos printed, he just might have believed her. Despite the fact that the situation would be the same as the shoplifting issue. And if I feel that way, something has made me feel so. The same way as Zain, who despite knowing he is innocent, was apprehensive of his father. Because somewhere he knew/thought that his father wasn't going to believe him.

I would really love it more if he was there for both Zain & Aliya. Yes, he is Aliya's only support, but honestly speaking...he's the only one who is Zain's too. Every one of those three ladies don't give a damn about Zain, & Rizwan is obviously not someone he can go to for guidance 😆

I do hope CVs fix this & make Usman be there for Zain too, rather than him turn up to only reprimand him on his mistakes. I loved that one scene, after the Walimah, all the tamasha, beizatti, Aliya par ilzam & everything else was ek taraf & his worry for his son was his priority. THAT was the Usman whose 'laal' is Zain.

As for being a father, I wouldn't say he's a bad one. Yeah...he's done a fair share of spoilig but he's definitely taught Zain goodness & respect. Zain is lazy & immature & stubborn, but he doesn't flaunt his reaches, he isn't egoistic over them, he doesn't turn up his nose at the 'middle class' like his mother, he valued his Pups' love over maintaining his status & staying at a hotel, & he has never extended his enmity with Aliya to her family. He became overtly drunk thay one time out of frustration, otherwise he seems to be just a party drinker guy, not one steeped in bad habits. Zain not being religious was just giving him the freedom to have his own beliefs. Not to mention that whatever he does is face first. The wardrobe geela karna, Walimah, the saree...nothing that Zain has done, has he hidden from Aliya. He definitely got all this from his father. What Usman needs to do right now is not forget that TWO of his jigad ke tukres are going through a patch where they need proper guidance & trust. From the RIGHT person.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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the reason why he called his mum is becos he knows usman believes aliya immensely and will believe her when she says that only zain was aware of her blouse incident and narrates his chat with the photographer (which she didn't hear)... basically she'll narrate her side of the story which from her POV seems right but isn't actually the REAL truth...so he feared that as usual his dad would side his bhanji over his son becos he knows tht his dad feels aliya is perfect while zain has his flaws. I don't think its necessarily to do with being a failed father...if he is a failed father then suraiya is also a failed mother... but I feel on the whole they could have definitely been better parents to their kids... I feel he isn't the perfect father figure but is definitely NOT a failed father...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ARandKJFan

Hmm, now that I think about it, maybe you are right.

But then Zain has always been Osman's ladla.
And didn't Suraiya do that too?
Basically, Zain was spoiled a lot and now Aliya is sudhrofying him.
I've always loved the Maamu-Bhanji bond though. <3
There is one thing Osman has always been good at. Understanding Zain and making him understand. He's soft with him and knows about his son very well and knows his mood changes so he doesn't get angry. That, is one quality which I admire in their bond.
So Osman isn't the perfect father, but he's not bad either 😳


Suraiyyah told them both to not show her fake reports as she was well aware being in touch with the Professor.

Suraiyyah is a failed mother, she wants to throw out Aliya at the expense of Zain and Osman, does she need any more reason after that to be termed as a bad mother. She doesn't know her own son as we see time and again. It's never about Suraiyyah-Zain bonding, there isn't a strong one.

I agree with you, Osman has invested into knowing his son, yet physically emotionally he is not there. Which is why Zain believes that even when he is Right, he has no chance of surviving his Father's wrath coz of a misunderstanding Aliya harbors.

I stepped into Zain's shoes and imagined the scenario. How would it be if your own father wouldn't trust you over your cousin. Bad



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sabakaleem5

No Im nt Agree With Ur Comment Becz OSman Understand Zain Very much but Surraiya Spoil zain very Much ... Osman Know if Aaliya Only make Zain Right way to His Life... Osman is Supporting To Aaliya becz Osman want Aaliya to convence Zain Like her Wife So Zain can realize Aaliya Importance in her life .. ... OSman Is Very much Good Father n MAmu...


I wouldn't blame Suraiyyah entirely for who Zain is, Osman is equally responsible.
Zain doesn't even accept Aliya as his wife at this point, he hates her, and knowing this Osman believes Zain would lend ears to what she has to say about his life?

Aliya is smart and she did her task well. However let's proceed to thinking Zain finding out given to Aliya, his father believes he joined office, all the more reason to hate her.

Osman is Zain's father it's his task to instill a sense of responsibility and duty on him, not Aliya's. I don't like the portrayal of 'My kid is spoilt, let's get him married hoping he improves' Typical. And a case of failed parents.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: aman1605

agree but i think all the fault here is of suraya she spoiled zain so now osman is trying to bring his son on the right way with the help of aaliya😃


How can the blame only fall on the mother, when the father in the above stated events hardly questioned his son. Osman bothered to reprimand Zain only when it came to Aliya, because to him Aliya is first on his list.

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