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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Yuvika_15

I don't know why but I get a feeling usman wouldn't have distrusted zain's firm belief had the matter reached him through aliya at the breakfast table... he knows zain pretty well and knows he wouldn't stoop this low to teach aliya a lesson... he wouldn't put his family's respect at stake so I believe that usman would NOT have totally believed zain.

We are left with a blank because situations never reached that point. And i didn't go there. I am questioning Zain's immediate 'Dad won't believe me'
aliya's belief was more firm becos she spoke to someone from daily news who confirmed tht zain had sent the pic - that made her "doubt" turn into "nothing but the truth" if there was a small percentage of her inner belief that zain may NOT have done this, then after speaking to that man, that small percentage would have disappeared.
You know I questioned this, and because I haven't lived in India, am not too sure about this. But aren't media people apprehensive about giving out source information on controversial snippets they publish? To a civilian. If Aliya legally sues them the police can get the sensitive information, but not to a civilian on a phone call.
Despite that I get where Aliya comes from, she had been through a lot the day before, from being called mad, to stupid infront of the girls, to a blank refusal for an apology that was due. Aliya did paint Zain with the term disgusting, and then the blouse rip and unheard convo with photographer eventually made her think wrong of him.

I feel for zain too... I feel at times aliya is being a bit unreasonable esp considering she knows tht her mami was behind the whole shop lifting episode so what makes her think her mami didn't plan this... I think the fact tht she cant stand zain and zain's words from previous night were enough for her 2 blame him instantly.
Exactly, I understand and relate with Aliya here :)
both zaya need to wake up and really see things for what they really are. the fact is that they dislike one another to the extent that whenever something goes wrong for them, their instant reaction is "this was definitely the others plan/fault" and suraiya and her chamchi's tke adv of this distrust zaya have in 1 another...
Yup you are right. 👍🏼 This is one of the aspects of marriage na, Trust ❤️ and it will be a part of ZaYa's journey <3 They have to build on all these aspects of marriage, that is the Beintehaa mohabbat Ki Story ! <3

Edited by AnotherAdmirer - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Children gain respect and trust from their parents by their deeds and actions.

Zain has been spoilt not only by his father but more so by his mother.

Even when Zain was abroad he had lied to his father about his studies and passing exams.

His attitude of "I can do as I please" has been there from the start. His mischief on pulling that prank on Aliya is what has landed him in the predicament that he is in now.

But fails to take that responsibility and blames his father for the marriage when he could have stood his ground and refused then instead he is now acting more immature than before and acting more rudely and petty.

Sure both parents have been to lenient with him but at least Usman has the decency to now make sure that his son grows up and behaves accordingly.

His mother on the other hand is hell bent on ruining not only an innocent girls life by using his duplicitous daughter-in- laws in her plot just because Aliya comes from a small town is downright cruel and mean.

Zain instead of trying to convince his father he did not publish that picture goes to his devious mother and hands her what she needs to degrade Aliya.

The family is surely dysfunctional in many ways and none have taken their job as parents responsibly .

They have failed but I see Usman at least trying harder to keep them together than breaking them up like Suraiya for selfish reasons.

I see Zain's mother as a bigger failure as a mother and a decent human being.

Usman might not have been an ideal father till now but he definitely is a better person with better values and principles than his wife.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dolly-heart

Children gain respect and trust from their parents by their deeds and actions.


Zain has been spoilt not only by his father but more so by his mother.

Even when Zain was abroad he had lied to his father about his studies and passing exams.

His attitude of "I can do as I please" has been there from the start. His mischief on pulling that prank on Aliya is what has landed him in the predicament that he is in now.

But fails to take that responsibility and blames his father for the marriage when he could have stood his ground and refused then instead he is now acting more immature than before and acting more rudely and petty.

Sure both parents have been to lenient with him but at least Usman has the decency to now make sure that his son grows up and behaves accordingly.

His mother on the other hand is hell bent on ruining not only an innocent girls life by using his duplicitous daughter-in- laws in her plot just because Aliya comes from a small town is downright cruel and mean.

Zain instead of trying to convince his father he did not publish that picture goes to his devious mother and hands her what she needs to degrade Aliya.

The family is surely dysfunctional in many ways and none have taken their job as parents responsibly .

They have failed but I see Usman at least trying harder to keep them together than breaking them up like Suraiya for selfish reasons.

I see Zain's mother as a bigger failure as a mother and a decent human being.

Usman might not have been an ideal father till now but he definitely is a better person with better values and principles than his wife.


I agree with all points except that Zain has been acting rude and petty. Such negative terms are far from him.

Showing up drunk. That was the worst of Zain.
Edited by AnotherAdmirer - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@AnotherAdmirer: Ohh not not atall, Zain certainly isn't capable of doing the malfunction article, thats not his values. No matter how he is, he respect girls and he knows what dignity means for a girl and especially when he was at fault. I meant locking the room, i believe Zain can do that, i shld hv made it clear... my mistake. Obviously he was doing same with Zain as well, witnessing him growing up thats why I said that he knows both of them inside out and where Zain can be notrious on one side Aaliya appears as sweet, simple, homely person who wouldn't do anything intentionally to hurt anyone. Yes Zain doesn't feel it coz he overlooks the fact, his place taken up by Aaliya doesn't let him see anything else. And I think that Zain's fear was not of lack of trust on Zain but more faith in Aaliya of Usman especially after Walima chapter, Usman would hv nvr thought that Zain could do such a thing so even this, could be thoughts in mind of Zain, Usman trusting Zain or not would have actually given us an answer to this. Yea thats our inner voice and Zain's voice said that coz he had been brought up with such values which told him that what he did is wrong and Usman just showing his disappointment and admiting that it wasn't expected from Zain was enough to reprimand. They share a different relation where they don't need to tell each other everything, Usman's silence was enough to tell Zain what Usman expcts from him further and as said he didn't say a word coz he believed that Zain will not disappoint him again. Yes its a parent job to guide the child and am sure Usman had thats why we see such a better person through Zain among those braindead creeps otherwise Suraiyya was never that wise to instill all the values and morals in him, well she doesn't look like one... Lol Before Zain's mischief would never really bother or hurt people but he had been a constant reason for Aaliya's misery and his actions are no longer a mischief for which he could be set off the hook which makes Usman reacts and I feel it was right but his way of trying to correct was wrong which am sure even he comprehended later and we witnessed a heart- heart talk between the two after Walima when everyone were expecting Usman to explode but he decided discussing. He realised that Zain needs a bit of talking and venting and not thrashing which was his way to show his love and trust but obviously Zain couldn't feel coz atm he's blinded by the hatred and what his mother constantly puts in his mind. I feel Zain is vulnerable atm, emotionally weak somewhere and I do blame Usman here, what happened at beach after Walima could have happened before marriage or when 1st lock incident had occured. In Indian shows, tell me one family where you feel they have been raised with any kind of values and culture?? Expecting such things in Indian television is like looking for water well in a desert 🤣, Hindu, Muslim, catholics nothing mean anything to Indian makers when it comes to selling the product so I really don't know what to answer. We both hav seen Humsafar and there too did you ever feel ever that Sara and Asher's mum came from same place as like Baseerat and Asher. You can say that maybe he lacked somewhere but we cannot entirely blame Usman here, as a father he might have done the job but there was Suraiyya to show an entirely different path and we must not forget that Zain was in London for 7 years away from such family functions and gatherings such things tends to lose the place if you are away and here it was not about Zain not willing to go but not willing to go alone coz he was unaware to the surroundings, people and functions and I would call it a human nature and not a place where Usman failed. He had fear of being out of place, its not that he disrespect the customs n family affairs and I really see nothing wrong in Zain denying at first. Declining the offer of going to attend wedding of someone he had seen just as kid and later on no contact was left with the people or place doesn't make Zain less at his values. Same here... Its great discussing them and seeing flow of so many opinions :)

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