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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nor is it necessarily true that there was nothing written concerning the history and the rulers and kingdoms of what was then Bharat. There must certainly have been a very large number of manuscripts dealing, inter alia, with these subjects, quite apart from the folk traditions.

What do you suppose that the history departments of the very famous universities like Nalanda and Takshashila did? They all had huge libraries, and it is only logical to assume that they must have had substantial sections dealing with the history of Bharat.

Unfortunately, the library at Takshashila was destroyed during the barbarian invasions from Central Asia in the 10th to the 12th centuries, and Nalanda by Bakhtiar Khilji in the 14th century. The great library at Nalanda reportedly burned for 3 months.
It is thus not surprising that no contemporary or somewhat later accounts of the period survived. But they surely existed.

Finally, I have never heard of the territory that constitutes the Indian subcontinent being considered part of the Persian empire.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: siyarati

Yeah... I agree. Toh mene kab kha Ki nhi ta independent. India was always independent.

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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It is true that the familiar Aryan Invasion theory has been debunked by the latest DNA research. This has revealed that for the past 12500 years there has been no change in the Ancient North Indian DNA because of the introduction of any Central Asian DNA.

Since the so-called Aryan Invasion was dated around 1500 BC, this concept has now been proved to be fictitious.

There were, 12500 years ago, only the two major groups in existence in the subcontinent, as identified by their DNA, the Ancient North Indian and the Ancient South Indian.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: truekrpkabian

And Tomiris was not an Indian Queen!!Cyrus the Great never reached India.Look below


Tomyris (/tomrs/; from Eastern Iranian: Tahm-Rayi),[1] also called Thomyris, Tomris, Tomiride, or Queen Tomiri, was a Massagetean ruler who reigned over the Massagetae, an Iranian people from Scythian pastoral-nomadic confederation of Central Asia east of the Caspian Sea, in parts of modern-day Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, western Uzbekistan, and southern Kazakhstan.[2][3][4][5] Tomyris led her armies to defend against an attack by Cyrus the Great of the Achaemenid Empire, and defeated and killed him in 530 BC

You are insulting our great king Puru by referring him to as a descendant of Queen Tomyris .He was a true Indian and you can ignore the theory of us Indians being Aryans originally from Europe as taught in our history books.Because our history was written by Westerners who want to falsely glorify themselves and make us Indians look inferior to them.The Aryan theory is rubbish!!!

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: truekrpkabian

And Tomiris was not an Indian Queen!!Cyrus the Great never reached India.Look below


Tomyris (/tomrs/; from Eastern Iranian: Tahm-Rayi),[1] also called Thomyris, Tomris, Tomiride, or Queen Tomiri, was a Massagetean ruler who reigned over the Massagetae, an Iranian people from Scythian pastoral-nomadic confederation of Central Asia east of the Caspian Sea, in parts of modern-day Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, western Uzbekistan, and southern Kazakhstan.[2][3][4][5] Tomyris led her armies to defend against an attack by Cyrus the Great of the Achaemenid Empire, and defeated and killed him in 530 BC

You are insulting our great king Puru by referring him to as a descendant of Queen Tomyris .He was a true Indian and you can ignore the theory of us Indians being Aryans originally from Europe as taught in our history books.Because our history was written by Westerners who want to falsely glorify themselves and make us Indians look inferior to them.The Aryan theory is rubbish!!!



poras wasn't playing for Akhand bharat 😳 as shown here...have you read history of Punjab...poras was punjabi ..Paurva rashtra was punjab region..and first read history of Punjab...Archamedians attacked Punjab several times..ok ...chill down... Wikipedia articles are not everthing...and how is it an insult to porus Tomiris is considered as the greatest woman of ancient times...Read the history of dhaiya. history of jatts ...Queen Tomiris had her state upto Indus...read horodtus...😛
Edited by luckySnow - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Nor is it necessarily true that there was nothing written concerning the history and the rulers and kingdoms of what was then Bharat. There must certainly have been a very large number of manuscripts dealing, inter alia, with these subjects, quite apart from the folk traditions.

What do you suppose that the history departments of the very famous universities like Nalanda and Takshashila did? They all had huge libraries, and it is only logical to assume that they must have had substantial sections dealing with the history of Bharat.

Unfortunately, the library at Takshashila was destroyed during the barbarian invasions from Central Asia in the 10th to the 12th centuries, and Nalanda by Bakhtiar Khilji in the 14th century. The great library at Nalanda reportedly burned for 3 months.
It is thus not surprising that no contemporary or somewhat later accounts of the period survived. But they surely existed.

Finally, I have never heard of the territory that constitutes the Indian subcontinent being considered part of the Persian empire.

Shyamala Aunty


No no aunty don't misunderstand me😆 I know Mahabharata and Ramayana and Vedas are very very ancient and India existed along with mesopotamia , Egypt , Greece. It is that in India oral tradition was mostly used to pass on history. So very old writers didn't have history of India to read. Horodotus calls Tomiris archamedian but infact her region was stretched to indus. Later writers labeled her as Persian..

Thanks to Chankya and other teacher writing became popular in India...
Edited by luckySnow - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: luckySnow



poras wasn't playing for Akhand bharat 😳 as shown here...have you read history of Punjab...poras was punjabi ..Paurva rashtra was punjab region..and first read history of Punjab...Archamedians attacked Punjab several times..ok ...chill down... Wikipedia articles are not everthing...and how is it an insult to porus Tomiris is considered as the greatest woman of ancient times...Read the history of dhaiya. history of jatts ...Queen Tomiris had her state upto Indus...read horodtus...😛


King Puru was a punjabi!!Hahahaha😆 good joke.I wonder why I never read or heard about "Bhangra" being a dance form of ancient India.You amuse me.There was no Punjab in ancient India.And you will never get to know that whether King Puru was passionate about Akhand Bharat,he may not have the vision of Akhand Bharat,but he did believe in Bharat.He didn't betrayed and surrendered to Alexander as that bloody traitor Ambiraj did.He stopped the further advance of Alexander into our country.He broke the morale of Alexanders' army ultimately breaking the aspiration of Alexander.The region later became Punjab due to the fact that it had five rivers . Queen Tomyris was a brave commander and I admire and respect her for that.But you related King Puru to her thereby questioning his ethnicity and nationality.And it's not Horodtus ,it's Herodotus.
Edited by truekrpkabian - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: truekrpkabian


King Puru was a punjabi!!Hahahaha😆 good joke.I wonder why I never read or heard about "Bhangra" being a dance form of ancient India.You amuse me.There was no Punjab in ancient India.Punjabis came into existence when Sikhism took birth as a religion.And you never know or will never get to know that whether King Puru was passionate about Akhand Bharat,he may not have the vision of Akhand Bharat,but he did believe in Bharat.He didn't betrayed and surrendered to Alexander as that bloody traitor Ambiraj did.He stopped the further advance of Alexander into our country.He broke the morale of Alexanders' army ultimately breaking the aspiration of Alexander.The region later became Punjab.Queen Tomyris was a brave commander and I admire and respect her for that.But you related King Puru to her thereby questioning his ethnicity and nationality.


You are a insolent person...yes he was Punjabi..Punjab is not a latest word...
Now I don't want to argue with one who reads only Wikipedia articles and has Eroded knowledge about history 😆
Edited by luckySnow - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Poras ko sindh ka king bhi kaha jata hai , then he sindhi king, only god know when there was no existence of punjab in king poras time, how he became Punjabi. I shared map of king poras kingdom , d place which poras ruled was paurav rashtra not punjab, d area ruled by poras now is called as punjab

King poras only protected his kingdom not bharat from alexander
Edited by deepikagupta9 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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it is like saying Bombay isn't Mumbai...sorry Poras ruled Punjab region and so he can be called as Punjabi...😊 all Punjabi historians proudly calls him Punjabi...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Okay now myself posting wiki page 😆
Porus (IPA: [porus]) or Poros (from AncientGreek: , Pros), was an Indian kingfrom the Punjab region, whose territory spanned the region between the Hydaspes (River of Jhelum) and Acesines (Chenab River), in the Punjab region of the Indian subcontinent. He is credited to have been a legendary warrior with exceptional skills. Porus fought against Alexander the Great in the Battle of the Hydaspes (326 BC),[2]thought to be fought at the site of modern-day Mong, Punjab, which is now part of the modern country of Pakistan.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: luckySnow


You are a insolent person...yes he was Punjabi..Punjab is not a latest word...
Now I don't want to argue with one who reads only Wikipedia articles and has Eroded knowledge about history 😆


Oh thank you so very much for trying to educate "the ignorant little me"I do think you meant ignorant,right, because insolent means something else entirely.I do hope you have got your adjectives right.

Please do send me the source so that I can "learn" history from you.
Edited by truekrpkabian - 7 years ago

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