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Posted: 9 years ago
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I agree with what Shruthi and Samana said- the operational costs of the show are obviously higher, which is why it's being axed in spite of not-so-bad TRP's. The channel obviously expected it to be a game changer, something on the lines of IPK, or something. I think Tewary also misjudged the audience on this one. I remember being aghast reading that he'd spent 2.5 crore on the set. 🥱


The audiences are not ready for a musical, a retrospective/ back and forth narration, emotional complexities, or other things.



I do wish we could go back to the old days in the 80's and 90's when shows of substance were on. I am a 90's kid and I remember "Shanti" and "Swabhimaan" which were runaway hits at the time. I think the scripts were written well in advance, story lines etched out and shooting also way in advance, much like Pakistani shows continue to do even today.



I think the taste of the audiences have altered with the product fed to them- why could people watch better stuff in the previous decades and not now? Because they are now accustomed to a lot of quick-fix stories with a generous dose of drama and kitchen politics. Even EK's love stories are just an excuse for this- MATH and KB being good examples of this. YHM plays the romance angle more, because the original audience started watching for that.



As a viewer, however, I have to admit feeling ignored. If my tastes are a little different, if I expect a different kind of storytelling, am I not an intended member of their audience? Can't they have at least one show which caters to a niche audience? In recent times, EHT is one example I can think of- the impact it created was on another level altogether. In the US, for example, you have "youth" shows that are syndicated for a different audience, and which continue to air despite having relatively lesser ratings.



In such situations, I am compelled to watch something more appealing- which is usually well-written legal and political thrillers [The Good Wife, Boston Legal, House of Cards, Scandal], period dramas [Downton Abbey], fantasies [Once upon a time] , hospital dramas [Grey's Anatomy], from British and American TV. I am actually spoilt for choice there. But the heart wants to watch something desi; creative content that is rooted in our culture, portraying mores and situations that seem familiar, engaging story lines, good narration, strong characters.



My question is- as a viewer, is it too much to ask?




Why aren't they going for simple, elegant story lines, devoid of melodrama in the season format? Much like Pak shows. With our shows, the writers and the actors get ultimately fed up with the shows they're a part of- our shows are that disillusioning and creatively frustrating



And why aren't they experimenting with genres? The same ol' stuff- wash, rinse and repeat.



And I honestly don't know whom to blame- the audiences or the production teams for this whole mess. Is the audience forcing them to churn out the same kind of moribund stuff, or are the production/creative houses putting the audiences through the same ghissa pita stories? I am guessing it runs both ways.



I do feel that change is on the cards, though. There is an increasing amount of digital penetration in our towns and cities. People are watching diverse content because of a good internet connection on their smartphones, becoming exposed to other cultures- watching Korean dramas, for eg. Urbanization and education levels are on the rise, and tastes are slowly but steadily changing.



Moreover, we are a country of young people, our demographic dividend says that we have a large no of individuals in the 12-35 age group, with more expected to join in the coming decades.




It might take a long, long time for things to change- but I do see it happening one day in the distant future. I also think that mainstream GEC's are not ready for it, and they're bound to fall on their faces then- they won't even see it coming!



I am waiting for the day Netflix comes in India, for eg, or when more and more people watch webisodes or podcasts right on their smartphones.
Edited by -Amri- - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Beautiful post Amri and like you I am also a 90's kid and have watched Shanti and Swabhimaan. Even serials like Junoon, Samandar, Phir Wohi Talash, Neev. My parents still talk about Udaan , Chunoti, Gul Gulshan Gulfham, Intezaar etc though I have only faint memories about them.
I guess what happened was the cable revolution in late 90s and our generation at that time was in colleges. The housewives of those times were fed with these tear jerkers. I still remember my mom used to watch 3-4 serials together at a time slot. Everything with same story. But then it was like addiction and the generation of those days could relate to all the torture they showed. Only 2 shows I remember watching in those times was 1 Kutumb season 1 in Sony and then Alaigal Tamil which was a thriller.
After that it took me years to come back and watch TV through DABH, then EHT now BD. But it seems people of tear jerker era still cant see the progressive shows.
Like you I can also watch English shows like Modern Family, Big Bang Theory or Game of Thrones. But then I also want to watch something Indian. That tells the story within our culture, our beliefs.
I am not against showing festivals like Rakhi, Karva chauth, Durga Pooja, Diwali etc in shows nor do I want the leading lady to wear any modern dresses. Nor I am expecting any outrageous romance or live in relations. I am just expecting simple stories, narrated beautifully in a finite format. Like the show Everest. It was simple, but it was a beautiful story.
It's like a viewer like me have to reduce myself to Savdhaan India or Crime Patrol as far as Indian shows goes.
Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#33
I have been enjoying this discussion. Still not all the way through but has to come comment. It's interesting because I have similar conversations with my family about how it bugs me when shows with good potential are ruined because of the TRP race and it's frustrating because the shows that suffer are the ones that should be winning the race.

I stopped watching this show early on before I got too attached if I'm being honest. ST has burned me twice in the past, MEIEJ has undoubtedly been my one most favourite indian serial (it's also one of the first few I ever watched) and Rangrasiya was a close contender. In both instances they had great shows with some really great ideas behind them not to mention some AMAZING complex characters at the core of the story, but in both cases good stories and characters got lost in the demand for TRPs. It really breaks my heart. I still go back and watch clips of MEIEJ from when it was good but in the end it was just ruined. It became a huge mess. (Yes, I really was so in love with this show that it actually does break my heart some days when I'm watching old episodes). At least be grateful it didn't get to that stage with BD because in the end it would have.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Beautiful post Amri and like you I am also a 90's kid and have watched Shanti and Swabhimaan. Even serials like Junoon, Samandar, Phir Wohi Talash, Neev. My parents still talk about Udaan , Chunoti, Gul Gulshan Gulfham, Intezaar etc though I have only faint memories about them.

I guess what happened was the cable revolution in late 90s and our generation at that time was in colleges. The housewives of those times were fed with these tear jerkers. I still remember my mom used to watch 3-4 serials together at a time slot. Everything with same story. But then it was like addiction and the generation of those days could relate to all the torture they showed. Only 2 shows I remember watching in those times was 1 Kutumb season 1 in Sony and then Alaigal Tamil which was a thriller.
After that it took me years to come back and watch TV through DABH, then EHT now BD. But it seems people of tear jerker era still cant see the progressive shows.
Like you I can also watch English shows like Modern Family, Big Bang Theory or Game of Thrones. But then I also want to watch something Indian. That tells the story within our culture, our beliefs.
I am not against showing festivals like Rakhi, Karva chauth, Durga Pooja, Diwali etc in shows nor do I want the leading lady to wear any modern dresses. Nor I am expecting any outrageous romance or live in relations. I am just expecting simple stories, narrated beautifully in a finite format. Like the show Everest. It was simple, but it was a beautiful story.
It's like a viewer like me have to reduce myself to Savdhaan India or Crime Patrol as far as Indian shows goes.


I am guessing you're Tamil, Shruthi. So am I😃


WORD to everything you said. I think the 80's had even better content- shows like Buniyaad for instance.


You can easily rattle off a list of names when it comes to a "classic" or a "cult" show when it comes to 80's and 90's. DD was so good back then.


In recent ages, one show I can think of is "Sarabhai v/s Sarabhai". And maybe shows like EHT and IPK in their respective genres which can be called game changers. Very sad.


The only show I watch now is Crime Patrol😆 The writing, the hosting, the fictional dramatization- everything is amazing!


BOLD- Agree! Bang on. One tiny complaint from me though- it's okay to show festive celebrations once in a while, but there's an overwhelming amount of epis devoted to every festival. My aunt who doesn't know Hindi once watched a dubbed version of a Hindi show on Star Vijay- and she asked, do people really celebrate so many festivals so grandly in North India😆 I honestly didn't know what to tell her.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Amri I am a Keralite but I know Tamil and you know right most of the Keralites watch Tamil movies and shows 😃.
By festivals I didn't mean the drama associated with festivals. Just showing the simple celebration of it. I mean the essence of the festival be kept intact. In today's serials essence is not there, only drama and things like Apashagun and other non sense rules.
And I would prefer to cut the marriage epi and the so called Suhaag Raat nonsense😆. I guess Ekta brought it in her shows and in every show it is delayed as much as possible as it seems after SR TRPs will drop 😆😆😆😆. Those were some interesting revelations I got when I joined the forums. I don't understand why cant you show a marriage, implied SR and then move on with story yaar than fill the epi with flying dupattas, handlocks, eyelocks , falling catching 😆😆😆. I love romance, but to stand mush beyond a point is not my cup of tea.
See a couple not in terms need of the story I can understand, but every story they make the couple mis matched. What a mess.
Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Side note- I am excited for "Ek tha Chandar, Ek thi Sudha" on Life OK.


Just 20 episodes, and based on the Hindi classic "Gunahon ka Devta". It has Rahil Azam as the lead!!! Amazing actor.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Amri-

Side note- I am excited for "Ek tha Chandar, Ek thi Sudha" on Life OK.



Just 20 episodes, and based on the Hindi classic "Gunahon ka Devta". It has Rahil Azam as the lead!!! Amazing actor.

Exactly I am also looking forward to it. 20 epi. How nice
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Amri I am a Keralite but I know Tamil and you know right most of the Keralites watch Tamil movies and shows 😃.

By festivals I didn't mean the drama associated with festivals. Just showing the simple celebration of it. I mean the essence of the festival be kept intact. In today's serials essence is not there, only drama and things like Apashagun and other non sense rules.
And I would prefer to cut the marriage epi and the so called Suhaag Raat nonsense😆. I guess Ekta brought it in her shows and in every show it is delayed as much as possible as it seems after SR TRPs will drop 😆. Those were some interesting revelations I got when I joined the forums. I don't understand why cant you show a marriage, implied SR and then move on with story yaar than fill the epi with flying dupattas, handlocks, eyelocks , falling catching 😆😆😆. I love romance, but to stand mush beyond a point is not my cup of tea.
See a couple not in terms need of the story I can understand, but every story they make the couple mis matched. What a mess.



Oh that's great. Forget Tamil, Malayalam cinema is ruling the roost today. Amazing movies like Bangalore Days, Premam, Drishyam and so many more. You guys are just FAB. I am glad that we too are following suit and trying to make offbeat cinema like you guys.


Oh, I so agree with the SR thingy- they make such a hoopla around it. They could just imply that physical intimacy is taking place instead of the corny stuff that they show. ZGH was amazing that way- Zaroon's fumbling for the ring and the promises that he and Kashaf made to each other- that was👏


Every festival, every party, every wedding- there is drama, a grand and shocking revelation, people being killed, women given date rape drugs, bride exchange, groom exchange, people wearing masks to imitate dead people (this actually happened on an EK show last week- I remember watching that scene with my mouth wide open in disbelief), previously assumed dead characters returning to life...Man.🥱 My head is swimming!!!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes Amri Malayalam Cinema has the best script oriented movies. But yaar love stories are the best in Tamil. And who can beat the romantic songs of Illayaraja , ARR , Harris Jayaraj in Tamil. Uff. I melt hearing those.
Movies like Thullatha Manavum Thullum, Mounaragam, Mele Thurantha Kathakku, Kadhal Kotai, Roja,Alaipauthe, Engeyum eppozhum, Rojakuttam, Jhillanu oru Kadhal , Kaka Kaka, Minnale, Vinnaithandi Varuvaya list is long. It is as if Tamil language itself is written for romance. It just flows.
And the songs Innisai Padi varum, Snehidhane, Munpe vaa, Pudhu vellai Mazhai, Vaa Vennila I can go on and on. 😃
Did the mask thing you saw in Gulmohar Grand. I was also laughing. Is a mask that easily available now 😆😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shruthi

I love the shows like "baggage battles,pawn stars,storage wars,counting cars,king of restoration"
😆

I make sure not to miss single episode


Don't know why I started indian shows 😆

Just to break my heart I guess🤣

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