How low can they get?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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For me, yesterday's romance or whatever it was between Arjun and Ovi was the absolute pits.This show surprises me everyday. with the depths to which it can descend!

Just when you thought Ovi, of all the characters, had finally realized the futility of her situation and was being sensible and trying to move on, they had to come up with that titillating rain dance! What was that all about? Exercising her conjugal rights one last time? So, did she keep her eyes closed all the time? To make sure she did not catch the glimpse of Purvi love in Arjun's eyes? Or did it make no difference? If so, why the attempt to take moral high ground? If you could do it once, surely you can make yourself forget your husband's love for another woman all the time? Ekta is the Queen of contrivance but this one was a new low even for her! A consummation with the sole purpose of creating yet another unwanted baby?

And Arjun? What have they turned him into? A man who is willing to abandon his responsibilities towards his child in order to save his marriage? What kind of a man does that make him?

A venerable doctor wanders around penniless on the streets, a reasonably educated woman has no clue how to earn a living to keep her child in reasonable comfort?

What kind of caricatures are these?

I feel nothing but contempt for all these characters. How can I watch a show and connect with its characters when I have no empathy for any of them?

And yes, at the risk of being labelled a scarlet woman, I found the Arjun-Ovi intimacy of last night far more offensive than the Arjun- Purvi consummation. And no, the sacred institution of marriage alone does not provide legitimacy to a relationship. It is about the feelings of the people involved. Only when they give themselves to each other wholeheartedly, body and soul, does it become kosher for me! If Ovi believed that Arjun was soul bound to Purvi, why did she want that one moment? Had she not had enough moments in the past to cherish? I

If Ovi's actions were rendered legitimate by the sacred institution of marriage, Purvi giving herself to Arjun was rendered kosher by their mutual love!

If one is right, then so is the other! I don't see how Ovi is the angel in white while Purvi is the fallen woman!

I have no particular respect for any of the characters on this show. I find almost all of them on shaky ground when it comes to morals or values. One does not deserve to be held up at the cost of another!


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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree with all ur points!👏
Exactly! What is sauce for the gander and Ovi goose can be sauce for gander and Purvi goose too! 😆
Then why have tunnel vision and call Purvi immoral and characterless?
To me, all these characters are equally demented! I dont take sides or defend anyone's actions unlike Ovi fans!
PR is just sinking lower everyday! Still we watch it and discuss it. I try to find humor and satire in the whole thing! The writers have no idea abt life, love, relationships, so they show such crap!
Edited by pallavi25 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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True. But I find the passionate defence of one character as opposed to the other quite amusing. I maintain that all the characters are suffering the consequences of their actions. One does not deserve sympathy over the other. For one is as good or as bad as the other!


For me the striking difference between Purvi and Ovi in terms of characterization stems from the circumstances of their birth.

Purvi, as an orphaned child, has no sense of self-worth. She feels obligated to the world for her very existence. Hence her constant and desperate attempts to prove herself worthy of love and acceptance through her stupid acts of self-deprivation.

Ovi, on the other hand, is a rich brat whose father pampered her and gave her all that she wanted to make up for the absence of her mother. The net result is that she has an inflated sense of self worth and thinks the world and his wife owe her. It is for them to give her all that she wants, for she deserves it all and more!
Edited by sharadrocks - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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As I say this, please understand.

Ovi and Purvi both are wrong immorally, and have shown that, in different situations, for the reasons maybe different.

Arjun, well I for one, can't understand his character, post the birth of Pari.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharadrocks

@pallavi25


True. But I find the passionate defence of one character as opposed to the other quite amusing. I maintain that all the characters are suffering the consequences of their actions. One does not deserve sympathy over the other. For one is as good or as bad as the other!


For me the striking difference between Purvi and Ovi in terms of characterization stems from the circumstances of their birth.

Purvi, as an orphaned child, has no sense of self-worth. She feels obligated to the world for her very existence. Hence her constant and desperate attempts to prove herself worthy of love and acceptance through her stupid acts of self-deprivation.

Ovi, on the other hand, is a rich brat whose father pampered her and gave her all that she wanted to make up for the absence of her mother. The net result is that she has had an inflated sense of self worth and thinks the world and his wife owe her. It is for them to give her all that she wants, for she deserves it all and more!


Yes, thats what offends me! Cursing Purvi for her bad decisions while praising Ovi for hers!
Its because the general attitude is that Purvi is adopted, sadak se uthayi hui and doesnt deserve anything good! And Princess Ovi deserves everything and she has a right to make mistakes! 😆

You explained it very well! Purvi has no self worth and feels obliged to sacrifice her love for her adoptive mother and sister as a form of gratitude. Twisted but gratitude all the same!
Ovi demands and gets what she wants...and stomps over people's lives with her high heels with no care for anyone's feelings or well-being!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Princess Ovi is always correct no matter what she does, whether blackmail her best friend's fiancee into giving him to her or sleeping with almost ex-husband just before leaving him!
But orphan Annie, I mean Purvi is immoral, characterless, shameless for sleeping with fiance the night before wedding!
Arjun seduced Purvi but hes never blamed! Typical mentality!
Now this horrible division of orphan adoptee Vs bio-child is extended to Pari and Ovi's possible child too!
Pari is illegitimate, very soon she will be called a bas**** by most of the forum. While Princess Ovi's darling will be the perfect legit child!
How awful!
Extending the hatred for the mother to the innocent child as well. Orphan Purvi with bad blood (like they say in India pata nahin kiska khoon hai) and her illegitimate kid
Vs Princess Ovi's legit Prince or Princess...that .will be the next debating points in this forum!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sorry to interrupt
But Purvi is no one to the deshmukhs
She always TRIED to be one of them
But never could
She was adopted by Archana
And hence is responsibility of Sulo in her absence
This has nothing to do with adoption etc
Purvi is just being punished for taking decisions for other people
Ovi didn't take any decision for anyone
She BEGGED Purvi but it was her who handed Arjun over to Ovi
So really I am fed up of how everyone thinks the Ds behave wrongly with her because she is adopted
They don't behave any right with their beloved soham as well
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ovi has always been criticized when she has done anything wrong like putting the deal forth, and I am not saying she was never wrong. But why should she be criticized when she finally accepts her mistake and takes responsibility for her actions. She left Arjun saying she wanted to find herself and so that he could be free from their forced relationship. She already gave him the chance before when during their 1 month anniversary, he had the chance to walk away. But he stayed and wanted to continue their relationship, so how is it her fault? He got her pregnant because Purvi said if you love me you will give Ovi all the rights a wife should have. Ovi didnt force him to sleep with her. In my opinion, Purvi has done more harm to everyone than Ovi. First by breaking her trust when Ovi confided in her that she thought Arjun was having an affair, then giving up Arjun (obviously there were other ways to get Archana her family back), asking him to commit sacrifices for her sake. Why should he always have to bear the burden of her sacrifices? Purvi isn't judged because she isnt a part of the family, but because she meddles in others lives way too much In an attempt to do good, she worsens the situation, and until now she has never fully admitted her mistake regarding anything.

As for the rain sequence and all yesterday. Ovi never meant to stay back with a malicious intent that oh I ll sleep with Arjun and ditch him. Ovi hasnt really had any special moments with Arjun apart from the childhood days. As soon as she came to India she soon found out about Arjun and Purvi, and after marriage Arjun always daydreamed about Purvi most of the time. I guess the only good times she shared with him were when they were both expecting the baby but now even the baby is gone. She just wanted to spend some time with him, and had it been anything else they did that night like staying up all night talking about old memories she would have considered those moments just as special. It just happened that they got close to each other (how else would the story move forward :P). And IMO it wasnt wrong at all, they are both married, and in the moment they were both carried away. In Purvi's case, acc to me it wasnt about the premarital sex, but more about how she acts so self righteous all the time and talks about her sanskaars.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I do not believe that sex is sanctified simply because it happens between husband and wife. If that were the case, there would be no such thing as marital rape. Before anyone jumps to conclusions, I am not claiming Ovi raped Arjun. It was definitely consensual. Yet, the fact remains that Ovi chose to savour these moments believing that her husband was in love with another woman. She did so after having made up her mind to leave him for his crimes. Given that, my only question is why tell Arjun that she was leaving him because he was not over Purvi and never would be or whatever? When you could sleep with the man even after accepting the bitter truth, what prevents you from staying on? If you don't want to stay on because of the emotionally abusive nature of your marriage, why sleep with him in the first place? What are these wonderful memories or special moments? How can a moment be special when you believe your husband is in love with another woman and is probably fantasizing about her even as he lies with you? Sorry but I am calling it like I see it!

I don't think this debate is about morals. And this debate is certainly not about Purvi. I am only trying to question the contrived logic imputed to Ovi's actions. .

We all know about the butterfly effect! The impact is far reaching and long lasting. Ovi broke up Arjun and Purvi knowing fully well that they were madly, crazily in love with each other. Yes, Purvi accepted the deal because she believed she owed it to her mother. Whatever, the fact is both the women and Arjun too will suffer the consequences of this forever. They will continue to pay for it all their lives. That is karma! No getting away from it!

I am not vilifying Ovi here. Merely saying I have no great sympathy or empathy for her as opposed to Purvi, Arjun or anyone else.



Edited by sharadrocks - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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IMO Arjun has already started developing feelings for her and I think somewhere Ovi realizes it too, but it's not wrong to want to be the number one woman in your husband's life. She gave in because it was special for her as she has always loved him, and she could see that this time she mattered for him too. He wasn't trying to fulfill some sort of duty towards her, I felt they emotionally connected at this point therefore them having sex was natural. But what prevented her from staying is just that no matter how important she was to him somewhere she felt Purvi would always be more important and her self respect doesn't allow her to stay back on those regards. She did say that he loved Purvi and that was one of her concerns, but she also stated she was leaving not just because of that but because she wanted to find herself and set him free. By leaving she wasn't trying to punish him more like giving him his freedom back, because she admitted in the message that if this marriage was hard for her it wasn't easy for him either.

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