I work doing research on alcoholism too , but the neuropsychology part of it!
Wow glad to have met 2 people in the same space too!
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Originally posted by: pallavi25
Danish research on the subject of alcohol and stillbirth. Ovi had several drinks per day in early stages of pregnancy which is dangerous for fetus and can cause stillbirth.
Hilly and sowmya girlsss!
I work doing research on alcoholism too , but the neuropsychology part of it!
Wow glad to have met 2 people in the same space too!
:)
Kalapi, this is the point I have been trying to make post after post, along with giving away the value system, premarital sex can lead to negative consequences that can affect all parties concerned. It is nothing to be glorified under the guise of being educated, broad-minded and blindly going all with changes.
Pallavi dear, I am at a loss, how is premarital sex lined to rape, domestic abuse, female foeticide etc. Do you mean that when ppl are open to premarital sex, these other social evil will lessen?
Or, being educated is equivalent to being so broad minded that one given away the value system or throw caution (and possibly a bright future) to the wind. The way I see premarital sex is that it is an action and like any actions it comes with possible consequences. So, a teenage girl getting pregnant out of wedlock isn't necessarily a thing to be glorified. Here, is this girl, who herself is, probably dependent on parents for support, neither ready physically nor emotional becomes saddled with the responsibility for another life. The question that is needed to be asked, aren't we throwing these girls to a life of challenges that she might not be even be ready of or even appreciate what she has in store. I find instead of trying to glorifying premarital pregnancy as that of being progressive, one must judge what it will entrails for a girl or if the risk are worthy of having premarital sex. A girl saddle with a baby, maybe doesn't get enough opportunity at education and consequently might end up herself in an abusive relationship...she, for her premarital sex, might end up being in a vicious cycle of which she may not even have the key to get out...why are we so ready to glorify such actions where possible outcome seems only spell doom???
Originally posted by: pallavi25
Being open-minded means to accept that mistakes can happen and women who get pregnant before marriage dont need people's high-pitched indignation and curses in addition to all the problems they are facing.
It doesnt mean supporting the act itself but being humane and sympathetic to an unwed mother.Its not attitude to premarital sex (God, how everyone is obsessed with that one act😆) but the whole attitude towards an unwed mother or a fallen woman in society. That attitude links to abuse, rape and molestation. The attitude of keeping a woman in her place and punishing her for a mistake committed by both a man and a woman.Like most sane people said after the horrible Delhi case, people have to change their attitudes towards women and girls. Just because shes wearing jeans and is out late at night with a guy doesnt give men permission to rape her!Ovi did binge drinking in the first 3 months of her pregnancy which damaged the fetus to some extent, had the fetus been a healthy one, it would also have survived the accident like Pari.I can confirm these facts with my doctor friends at the next party I meet them. 😊I acknowledge it was a horrible thing to happen but Ovi was partly responsible and she herself admits to her mistakes in the vdo to Arjun, she also mentioned her drinking.
Originally posted by: pallavi25
Yes, Bengali, originally from Kolkata.😃Are you from Bengal too? Kolkata?
aha, my dear, But Kolkata or for that matter Bengal is considered progressive rather is very conservative in outlook. And trust me I know, for I come from the so called progressive part of the town, and went to one of the best schools in that City. Not to mention did undergrad to the number one co-ed college in town and then the university. But, I haven't come across any out of wedlock babies nor then or now, Btw, I am actually quite young, my mom just retired a couple of year back from being 30+ yrs working. Not sure if you can show any stats. to prove that unwed pregnancies has increased or is a common occurrence...
Originally posted by: pallavi25
Also after reading most of these posts, I am once again confirming that old adage" Women are women's worst enemies"
When a woman makes a mistake, all other women jump on her, berating her, cursing her, calling her horrible names, but the guy goes scot-free!In fact women take pleasure in the fallen woman's insults and ignominy!
I am not sure Pallavi dear, why are you making such comments. These so call women you talk about here are taking of a fictional show and character. I hope you aren't thinking that the actress is talked about. For why should anyone do so? In fact, we should applaud this open conversation for it gives us the peek to what is still the reality. I have seen many members share their own experiences here, what they did when faced with abuse, or an extramarital affair. If we are the pretend and say these are acceptable, no big deal that will send out a wrong message to many younger impressionable minds who also read these posts. Ppl should in my opinion always paint a true picture of what they have seen and experiences, so that we share the truth to ppl who might not be aware off. Now, if you have seen acceptability and abundance of unwed pregnancies in India - well and good, if I haven't that fine too. Let just be frank with each other in such debate without pretense or be prejudice and influenced what could be an deal' condition/situation to appear cool or progressive. I am sure all members are old enough to draw their own conclusions- no need to become 'judgmental': as you yourself said before and such debate will really be much more constructive. After all, to me , this is the purpose of a forum - to have a frank and open discussion platform
aha, my dear, But Kolkata or for that matter Bengal is considered progressive rather is very conservative in outlook. And trust me I know, for I come from the so called progressive part of the town, and went to one of the best schools in that City. Not to mention did undergrad to the number one co-ed college in town and then the university. But, I haven't come across any out of wedlock babies nor then or now, Btw, I am actually quite young, my mom just retired a couple of year back from being 30+ yrs working. Not sure if you can show any stats. to prove that unwed pregnancies has increased or is a common occurrence...
rayadallie, I would not mock a woman if she was not a hypocrite about it. That said and done, i wonder how many women here felt sympathy with Ovi when her sister and fiance decided to get married while she was committing suicide..ermm, I guess people called her psycho?nobody sympathised with her when she lost her baby...in fact people wanted her baby to turn out to be romil's so that she would be equal to purvi in the pre-marital sex nonsense...So yeah, when yard sticks are different for women on this forum itself, it is hogwash to talk about big things like changing mindsets in society...wish people learnt their own lessons here first!A woman is a woman, if she makes a mistake, pays for it and then asks for forgiveness, everyone should look at her the same way right? So If ovi has paid for her mistake, lost a child, lft the husband so he is free to re-unite with whoever, people still call her psycho, want her dead, or whatever...no sympathy for her eh? But purvi bichari has got people singing lories of society and education and being broad minded...Ahh well, women are a woman;s worst enemy as pallavi said, so true! :P