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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1

hillydee, the length of time one knows a person does not factor into this, Ovi might have loved Arjun longer but if Arjun did not love her, he is not hers, period. Sad for Ovi but that is the truth.


Purvi did not take Arjun - he came willingly.

If Purvi married Onir to raise her child, why begrudge her that? Should she rot in hell just so that her sister can gloat over her sorry plight? There is no rule in PR that says only Ovi can be happy plus Onir again willingly agreed to marry Purvi knowing she was pregnant with another man's child.

If Arjun and Purvi had pre-marital relations, it would have been their own business if the sister who covets everything that Purvi has, had not come wheeling and dealing the night before the marriage.

If a child is crying out of hunger, it is not a conscious decision, it is maternal instinct to feed the child.

Couples divorce many a time, the mother might give up custody for whatever reason, the spouses might go on to marry others, love/have children with the other spouse but still the equation where "their" child is concerned never changes. You cannot put a lid on your love just because you gave your child away, if something goes wrong, you do blame the other parent, warranted or not, the child still is and will always remain your child and you will always share the bond of caring, protecting that child with the other parent even if that said parent is married and/has fathered/mothered other children with other people.




Jhanvi,

Even where a couple divorces and remarries, primary custody is given to one set of parents. The other parents will be the step-parents, and everyone's roles are defined. Or at least, I assume so but I might be wrong because I don't know any examples personally. I believe that any child needs stability--one mom and one dad, at least the primary caregivers even if they have another set of parents. Especially in an Indian middle class setting, imagine the child's confusion who's in pari's shoes. Who is her mother? Is it ovi or is it purvi? If ovi is out of the picture and arjun marries again, who will be the mother? The primary caregiver? Mom is a mom lol! My aunts love me like their own, and will do anything for me and I love them too. My perima and chitti are like my mom, but my mom is my mom 😆

It's still not too late. If purvi cannot put a lid on her mamta, she has to take responsibility of pari. Now! She cannot say she will not take pari and ovi is her aai on one hand; and then say "hamari bacchi" and "main uski aai" on the other. It's either this way or that---there's no middle ground. It doesn't matter if Ovi wants pari now. There's no " what ovi wants, what ovi gets" funda---there's a simple remedy for it. Say no! Purvi is no bechari; if she is pari's aai she should not give her to ovi even if she begs her. If she does, she should be content to be pari's maasi and be in the limits decided by ovi or whoever becomes pari's mother. No two ways about it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Soapwatcher,

Sorry, I am answering in parts, I am multitasking with other things.

I am not begrudging(very strong and inappropriate word regarding my view) Purvi for marrying Onir for her child's sake. That is not even the point I was making.
I am only stating the fact that she choose that route without letting the family know that she was pregnant. That was wrong. Purvi was from a sheltered home, and going off in another place to marry a man no one in her family knows is dangerous. Not to mention the fact that she lied to Onir and said she had no family. If she was doing the right thing, why did she need to lie all the way?
She keeps making wrong decisions, and I am not going to blind my eyes to them. Purvi lies and lies and cannot stop lying, whenever she is making decisions. This is past Mahaan, this is unacceptable behaviour.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hillydee


Soapwatcher,

Sorry, I am answering in parts, I am multitasking with other things.

I am not begrudging(very strong and inappropriate word regarding my view) Purvi for marrying Onir for her child's sake. That is not even the point I was making.
I am only stating the fact that she choose that route without letting the family know that she was pregnant. That was wrong. Purvi was from a sheltered home, and going off in another place to marry a man no one in her family knows is dangerous. Not to mention the fact that she lied to Onir and said she had no family. If she was doing the right thing, why did she need to lie all the way?
She keeps making wrong decisions, and I am not going to blind my eyes to them. Purvi lies and lies and cannot stop lying, whenever she is making decisions. This is past Mahaan, this is unacceptable behaviour.


Hillydee, sorry, the why begrudge was not addressed to you personally. At that point (in Kolkata), she did have no family. I agree she makes wrong decisions and she needs to stop making them, one makes one's own destiny to a great extent and she needs to take responsibility for her own, enough is enough even if it stems from a wrong sense of doing good unto others.

I am multi-tasking too so have not read your other responses yet.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Accusing Ovi of having an affair with Romil, is just another way to hide the shame of knowing that Purvi could have premarital sex. that Purvi could walk away from Arjun after being intimate with him for only one night. That Purvi could give up her baby.
Purvi and Arjun had premarital sex and she got pregnant before Ovi's deal, the love couple should have thought of what they did and the possibility of babies, before the accepted the deal. Purvi did not even know Arjun properly only a few months, supposed she got something worse than pregnancy?

It looked very bad on Mahaan Purvi, everything she did was shocking and it wiped the sizzling chemistry clean, and so something has to be hurled at Ovi, to make Purvi look better.
Just as how the kidnapping had to be shown to make Purvi show fake Mamta and Arjun and Ovi look bad.

There is no need for proof that Ovi had absolutely no relations with anyone other than Arjun, because that would be a lie and downright ridiculous. If the Cvs tried to play that game, then I will still not believe, it will just be obvious that they are trying to salvage Purvi's damaged character.
However, accusations are hurled because taking out Purvi's deeds on Ovi, is always an easy escape from the reality.
Ovi will always be the scapegoat for Purvi's constant Mistakes under the guise of Mahaan.
This is not even serious any 🤣more, it is funny as hell🤣I am only watching one PR, I did not know there were different versions.😆



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1


Hillydee, sorry, the why begrudge was not addressed to you personally. At that point (in Kolkata), she did have no family. I agree she makes wrong decisions and she needs to stop making them, one makes one's own destiny to a great extent and she needs to take responsibility for her own, enough is enough even if it stems from a wrong sense of doing good unto others.

I am multi-tasking too so have not read your other responses yet.

My last post was for another comment about Romil etc. that I saw.😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam



Jhanvi,

Even where a couple divorces and remarries, primary custody is given to one set of parents. The other parents will be the step-parents, and everyone's roles are defined. Or at least, I assume so but I might be wrong because I don't know any examples personally. I believe that any child needs stability--one mom and one dad, at least the primary caregivers even if they have another set of parents. Especially in an Indian middle class setting, imagine the child's confusion who's in pari's shoes. Who is her mother? Is it ovi or is it purvi? If ovi is out of the picture and arjun marries again, who will be the mother? The primary caregiver? Mom is a mom lol! My aunts love me like their own, and will do anything for me and I love them too. My perima and chitti are like my mom, but my mom is my mom 😆

It's still not too late. If purvi cannot put a lid on her mamta, she has to take responsibility of pari. Now! She cannot say she will not take pari and ovi is her aai on one hand; and then say "hamari bacchi" and "main uski aai" on the other. It's either this way or that---there's no middle ground. It doesn't matter if Ovi wants pari now. There's no " what ovi wants, what ovi gets" funda---there's a simple remedy for it. Say no! Purvi is no bechari; if she is pari's aai she should not give her to ovi even if she begs her. If she does, she should be content to be pari's maasi and be in the limits decided by ovi or whoever becomes pari's mother. No two ways about it.


Sowmya, I have seen children who seem pretty well-balanced despite being shuttled between two if not three different sets of parents. Objectively speaking, I don't think it hurts a child to have two mothers that truly loves him/her or two dads that love him/her. I have seen amongst close friends the issues they have with the spouse's ex or their ex's current is usually a battle between the adults and their egos, the children seem pretty resilient.

I work with this girl whose husband left her 2 months after their baby as he did not want the responsibility of being a dad. They had the most romantic of weddings, he proposed sky diving, they seemed to have been made for each other. She threw a reverse marriage/divorce party honoring "new beginnings" when they broke up and she had a rough time initially leaving the child with the guy and his steady stream of girl friends. The child recently turned 5 and the dad is now married to a very sweet girl whom my friend truly likes, the boy splits his time bet/ both parents and has two equally caring, fun loving moms. I know of another whose husband's ex is a total nutcase not in regards to the child but in respect to the guy himself, the woman is needy, and expects to be waited on hand and foot because she gave birth to his first child. My friend has 2 little kids and raises her husband's first son as well but again the boy has two mothers, they in fact bought houses in the same neighborhood so it is easy for pick up and drop off of the child.

That said, I would never be able to share my child with any other mother but that might be only because such thinking is anathema to the way I was raised. But I do agree that Purvi should stop thinking of Arjun's and Ovi's marriage and take the baby back. If Ovi has issues with Arjun visiting the baby, etc, Ovi and Arjun should deal with it, with divorce or understanding. If Purvi gives Pari to Ovi, Purvi should lay down some rules that the baby is hers and she has rights over her too, visitation, etc. This has gotten to be such a stupid story it does not even make sense anymore, I am so glad PV is ending because the producer did not want to mess up the story. Wish Ekta had the same sense.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hillydee


Goodnight Soapwatcher


Goodnight, sleep tight!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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My dear Soumya (and my dear Vasu too),

Soumya, brava! A completely coherent and lucidly argued post. I have done an acid take on yesterday's episode on Janhvi's and Kools' threads, for I had to get it off, sore eyes or not.

But this is from a different angle. You are absolutely correct re: the highlighted part, and also about the whole chain of fact and fiction, and the unwarranted deduction re: Ovi's baby and Romil.

I have always, even is the days when Ovi was getting on my nerves big time with her tantrums, felt that these self-serving ideas being floated for self-evident reasons were disgusting, and I have said so time and again.

This time, though it has nothing to do with the baby angle, how on earth can Ovi's taking a call from her erstwhile friend and business agent - and I am sure she took the call, and why not? - be construed as her 'romancing' him? And what is it about the miraculous timing? He might have been trying to persuade her to return off and on, for she was a profitable client, or he might have been in India and called her as an old friend.

While I am on the topic, I do not see why Purvi should not 'romance' her legally wedded husband either. In fact, I wish she would make up her mind, stop behaving like a yo yo, and go off with Onir. If not to Kolkatta for fear of being stoned, why then she can come to my civilised city, Pune, and I will undertake to find them something better than a kholi!

As things are, Onir must be alarmed at the prospect of having to provide for not just his Mishti but the baby as well, with all the attendant demands on his near empty purse,and without any means of livelihood. He is slender in build, and I do not see him lifting boris and unloading trucks as Manav used to do. Moreover, for all her airy pronouncements about people living without houses, when push comes to shove, Purvi is no Archana, who slept on the pavement without complaint. Purvi starts asking for a thikana, and if they had the baby as well, Onir would never know a moment's peace.

If she does go off to the Kirloskar mansion with Pari, all the practical problems would be solved, except that it would paid to the last shred of self respect left for Onir and make him look like a pucca cuckold.

Yes, it is a harsh term, but that is exactly what he will look like then. Yesterday, he had already begun to look very strange, hovering in the background while his wife was kissing her beti and the beti's father was trying hard to muscle into the frame. It was pathetic. No one, at least not in India, would respect a husband who allows his wife to carry on in this fashion. He would be promptly branded a namard. Even I, with my liberated outlook, have had as much as I can stand of this sort of broadmindedness. Onir might have accepted her with all her baggage, but I wonder if he had signed on for this roadside tamasha.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam



I am not picking and choosing at my convenience. I did not say anything about the comment on Ovi going shopping--coz that's true. It was shown, and I cannot refute it and say Ovi was trying to divert her mind from her current circumstances by going shopping. Can I? The latter is just my analysis, the former is a fact--that she did go shopping. Just like onir and purvi were romancing. At least what I thought of as romance, and there's nothing wrong in it. They're married and at least one of them is in love, so all power to them. Honestly, I don't think anyone is at fault for the kidnap--not even arjun, who is even incapable of hiring an efficient nanny to look after Pari. People take their kids outside and sometimes, they get lost.

Some fans are angry that purvi is romancing her husband, period. But the anger at purvi in the forum in general is because she really did not have the right to tell anything at all to arjun about pari. She gave up the baby, for whatever reasons and lets not get into that right now, immediately after giving birth. Did not take the baby back when the deceit was exposed, did not even take the baby back when arjun literally begged her to since pari needed her mother. She has not been a mother to pari in any sense, and she can not demand anything from arjun or ovi (who had taken care of pari so far) regards pari. She cannot randomly go and assert her rights as a parent when she refuses to take any responsibilities towards the baby---they go hand in hand. Even now, I can bet you that tomorrow she will hand pari back to arjun and backtrack once again. If she doesn't and takes pari with her instead, I'll be happy to lose the bet. Being on the streets is no excuse. Arjun is the father and everyone knows it, he will more than gladly provide support for his baby's needs.

About Ovi and romil. That is not fact, it has never been shown or expressed by any character in any way that there was/is anything between them. It's not just feminism or being prudish. Punni had affairs with married men, and that is fact. I actually like her coz she knows exactly what she wants and how to get it, and neither is she ashamed about it nor does she lie to herself. Purvi did try to do some weird kind of sting operation with mittal when she learnt of his affair with punni. Ovi also has been accused of pretending to flirt with other guys to make arjun jealous (back in Canada). I may or may not like comments on my fave character on the show, but if somebody makes comments on these incidents I really cannot refute them because they are facts, they were shown.

But there is absolutely nothing to indicate anything, even a close friendship between ovi and romil. In fact, the only times the character is even mentioned is when they want to refer to ovi's modelling career. This is also fact. How then, can you suggest and then judge her on it? Have you read the posts, even by members I think generally make sensible posts, that ovi's baby is probably fathered by romil or some random dude? There have been many, many of those---some expressed even now. Is there -any reason for such a suggestion other than a wish/ an excuse for arjun and purvi to reunite? In some way, though I have no idea how. Even if ovi had an affair with romil and her baby was his, that doesn't automatically mean that arjun-purvi can or will reunite because as we know, onir married purvi knowing she was pregnant and accepted her baby as her own. What other reason could there be for wishing and hoping that ovi's baby was fathered by romil?

The point of my post was this. That you, like a lot of others were maligning a hated character, a female, for something that she clearly has not done. At least there is no evidence for it. If you talk about the dratted deal, I will defend it if I have the patience for it. But there's no defense here because you cannot prove a negative. I replied to you because I have read some of your posts, and while I don't agree with a lot of it I did think they were sensible. We can analyze characters and their actions in any way we want based on what is shown to us. We should not create assumptions out of nothing and then judge based on those assumptions, right?



Originally posted by: archis_2013

Hold on pls.. I am sorry, you have not been reading posts in this forum including mine before you write such response.
It was in response to a post which criticised Purvi romancing with her husband and forgetting about Pari which I have found in many a post that all os us have seen while we were shown she explaining to Arjun on why she cannot take the baby back. If walking on the streets of Mumbai on a hot April day, going to jails etc, etc as they have shown so far sounded romantic to you, why cannot I point a finger at Romil whose call she received out of blue and then, she announces that she will do modelling without even consulting with her father?
Either we all go strictly by what is shown on our television sets or go by how we perceive the show is. My friend, we cannot pick and choose at our convenience.
And lastly, I too am one of those modern women who have a professional life, who interact with many men and women of all ages and have travelled many a times alone for business reasons. And I have seen personal examples of friends who had past relationship that for reasons they had to continue with the interaction but their current partners trust them fully. I clearly understood I was crossing lines when I wrote that. But that was exactly my point. I had written a lengthy email to Tiyali on the matters of trust. When you can all "understand" Ovi and she crying foul at Arjun for every meeting with Purvi even in public places like marriage halls, malls, at office and even at family functions and every thought of theirs as unholy, why cannot I construct something over a guy who himself said he had proposed to Ovi to marry him early?
Yes, I support Purvi most of the times because I think I understand her. I have also supported Ovi in few threads, including this. But I see red when every action of Purvi is criticised and every action of Ovi is glorified irrespective of whether there is logic in it or not. That is what I call as hypocricy.
Lastly, I truly like the way you write , the message sounds sincere without the sarcasm. Pls do continue.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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i dnt understand the definition of nautanki.
When ovi made tamasha of her life, father's repution and spoiled the celebration of others , it was nt nautanki bt it was real side of ovi. When she made deal of parents realationship at that time it was nt nautanki but she was true fighter who was fighting for pyaar. When she was forcing her father to live with archana (who was worst woman for her at that time) just becoz of her deal it was nt nautanki infact at that time she was satyavadi who accepted that she made deal as if its matter to feel proud. Ovi can make many public tamasha thats nt nautanki thats real side bt purvi just tried it once that also becoz of her daughter so thats nautanki.

Ovi tried to kill her child but that was nt her fault. lol. She was victim of hormones. But when purvi gave her child to real father that was disgusting, nautanki and many more. Ovi refuse to take treatment frm onir just becoz of her personal conflict with purvi that was normal. Kill ur child bt dnt leave ur personal grudges thats nt nautanki bt if u take care of child when u r pregnant than give up without harming ur kid thats nautanki.

Any mother would react the way purvi reacted. Infact ovi was doing nautanki. She always made public tamasha whenever she was in pain so why nt today? Becoz she dnt care.

Purvi is wort mother bt much better than ovi. Atleast purvi never tried to harm her child. She never tried to kill her own blood.

If after giving up her child purvi has no right to cry for pari than even ovi has no right to do drama of maurning when she herself tried to kill her child nor she has right to do any show off for pari after she refused to accept her. Rules should b same for every1.

But here i find ovi is VIP who has every right to commit crime while purvi is nt allowed to make mistake.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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My dear Vasu,

Those who are saying @red are being ridiculous. Why, Onir would have been delighted to have had Pari with them, and this even in his present impoverished state, and she would have brought them even closer together. Actually, despite the lack of the luxury that Arjun can provide - though the nanny fiasco is not very promising in that respect! - I think Pari would be better off with Onir and Purvi, and would get a sound, balance and sensible upbringing, instead of ending up as a spoilt brat.

As for Purvi and Onir, no, I do not think she is falling in love with him, but her caring for him, and her sense of being a unit with him, are getting stronger by the day. Given this, the crushing burden of gratitude, plus the fact that she knows he loves her and is not doing all this out of sheer altruism, it will all add up to so much that she will never be able to leave him.

Moreover, I do not think she could be happy with Arjun any longer, not in an untroubled fashion as they had once dreamed of. The past, and Onir above all, cannot be wiped away, even if, as he will, he releases her without demur.

Lastly, I think PR is not worth all this anguish. Yes, yes, I can hear you saying that I am one of the biggest culprits around in this respect😉, but now I see most of them as cartoon characters, fit only to be made fun of. Look at Arjun claiming that he saved the life of the kid who fell off his bike! And Purvi's sudden and OTT emotional display yesterday! If you have to inflict such passages on the viewers, the least you can do by way of compensation is to look good. And look at her, frowsy and unkempt, with the mandatory backless blouse, and those untidy, ugly wigs!

Take care, and do not let all this get too much under your skin. Read my post on yesterday's episode on Janhvi's thread, and laugh out loud. It will do you more good than a Laughter Club!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: archis_2013

Sorry Aunty, I think our mails crossed each other.
I have written a lengthy response on why I wrote what I wrote in the morning. It wasn't suggesting on Ovi-Romil romance, I was questioning the assumption of a Ovi supporter by questioning another assumption.
And I am not against Purvi romancing with Onir (though my eyes and heart rebels , my head says why not - the guy has done so much for Purvi unlike any other character). What I am against is that Purvi has willfully got rid of Pari so that she can romance with Onir.
Maybe you are right. Like how the Ovi-hate mails made you sick, I too am sick of Purvi-hate mails without a rhyme or reason. If Ovi's character is above board, Purvi's should be too. After all, she is the one who had to take all the hard choices with regards to her family.
And lastly, pls feel free to let me know what you feel. I know Purvi is not your favourite but I know that you are fair and I can argue with you.
Rest in next. Work beckons. Take care.

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