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Posted: 12 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Now, if I may...will Purvevi take Pari and go back to her kholi???

Or Pari stays back with Arjun, and Purevi parks herself at the Kirloskar mansion, with I guess Onir...
Or should Purvi divorce Onir and marry Arjun...what is the option now???

I guess we should wait on the WRITERS to shed some light rather than argue over nothing.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: rayadallie

I guess we should wait on the WRITERS to shed some light rather than argue over nothing.

Yup, ma'm lets wai😛, I guess we alraedy have a prelude today😃 won't you say 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wow Kools, Excellent, Fabulous Post👏👏

There is nothing left to say, Kools you showed the reality. The reality we know.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear,

What a truly admirable model of decisive brevity!👏

I am greatly impressed, and I do wish I could follow your example. But alas, I am too old to change my prolix ways!!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik


Thank you. 😃😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Soumya (and my dear Vasu too),

Soumya, brava! A completely coherent and lucidly argued post. I have done an acid take on yesterday's episode on Janhvi's and Kools' threads, for I had to get it off, sore eyes or not.

But this is from a different angle. You are absolutely correct re: the highlighted part, and also about the whole chain of fact and fiction, and the unwarranted deduction re: Ovi's baby and Romil.

I have always, even is the days when Ovi was getting on my nerves big time with her tantrums, felt that these self-serving ideas being floated for self-evident reasons were disgusting, and I have said so time and again.

This time, though it has nothing to do with the baby angle, how on earth can Ovi's taking a call from her erstwhile friend and business agent - and I am sure she took the call, and why not? - be construed as her 'romancing' him? And what is it about the miraculous timing? He might have been trying to persuade her to return off and on, for she was a profitable client, or he might have been in India and called her as an old friend.

While I am on the topic, I do not see why Purvi should not 'romance' her legally wedded husband either. In fact, I wish she would make up her mind, stop behaving like a yo yo, and go off with Onir. If not to Kolkatta for fear of being stoned, why then she can come to my civilised city, Pune, and I will undertake to find them something better than a kholi!

As things are, Onir must be alarmed at the prospect of having to provide for not just his Mishti but the baby as well, with all the attendant demands on his near empty purse,and without any means of livelihood. He is slender in build, and I do not see him lifting boris and unloading trucks as Manav used to do. Moreover, for all her airy pronouncements about people living without houses, when push comes to shove, Purvi is no Archana, who slept on the pavement without complaint. Purvi starts asking for a thikana, and if they had the baby as well, Onir would never know a moment's peace.

If she does go off to the Kirloskar mansion with Pari, all the practical problems would be solved, except that it would paid to the last shred of self respect left for Onir and make him look like a pucca cuckold.

Yes, it is a harsh term, but that is exactly what he will look like then. Yesterday, he had already begun to look very strange, hovering in the background while his wife was kissing her beti and the beti's father was trying hard to muscle into the frame. It was pathetic. No one, at least not in India, would respect a husband who allows his wife to carry on in this fashion. He would be promptly branded a namard. Even I, with my liberated outlook, have had as much as I can stand of this sort of broadmindedness. Onir might have accepted her with all her baggage, but I wonder if he had signed on for this roadside tamasha.

Shyamala Aunty





Aunty,

That automatic assumption, no fervent wishing that there's something going on between ovi and romil has always disgusted me, especially since she's accused of being obsessed by arjun in the same vein. When everything shown is testimony to the fact that she had foolishly and blindly loved the loser arjun and placed him above everyone else, including herself. Her blinders are slowly but surely coming off, and she's becoming a much better person for it.

Did you see today's episode btw? I happened to catch the update, and OMG! does it look awkward or what? Your posts about a menage a trois seem to be coming true, and in a very uncomfortable, awkward, disgusting way. I feel pity for Onir. Ovi has let go now, and even when she was holding on tight she had the guts to speak out when the amar premis were doing their amar prem thing. So they didn't have the guts to do it in front of her. They met behind her back, in secret. Onir on the other hand has been so understanding that he's been taken for granted, like a chaperon, a front while the amar premis do their thing. I can't believe how it must be for him to be watching that scene play out in front of him, without anyone bothering about him at all. He has become a cuckold, a man who has nothing and has lost everything he did have. This is such a complete ruin of a man, or a woman--that it's astounding.

Oh btw, I loved your update on the episode. Hilarious and bang on! 😃

Edited by sowmya_jairam - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: soapwatcher1


Sowmya, I have seen children who seem pretty well-balanced despite being shuttled between two if not three different sets of parents. Objectively speaking, I don't think it hurts a child to have two mothers that truly loves him/her or two dads that love him/her. I have seen amongst close friends the issues they have with the spouse's ex or their ex's current is usually a battle between the adults and their egos, the children seem pretty resilient.

I work with this girl whose husband left her 2 months after their baby as he did not want the responsibility of being a dad. They had the most romantic of weddings, he proposed sky diving, they seemed to have been made for each other. She threw a reverse marriage/divorce party honoring "new beginnings" when they broke up and she had a rough time initially leaving the child with the guy and his steady stream of girl friends. The child recently turned 5 and the dad is now married to a very sweet girl whom my friend truly likes, the boy splits his time bet/ both parents and has two equally caring, fun loving moms. I know of another whose husband's ex is a total nutcase not in regards to the child but in respect to the guy himself, the woman is needy, and expects to be waited on hand and foot because she gave birth to his first child. My friend has 2 little kids and raises her husband's first son as well but again the boy has two mothers, they in fact bought houses in the same neighborhood so it is easy for pick up and drop off of the child.

That said, I would never be able to share my child with any other mother but that might be only because such thinking is anathema to the way I was raised. But I do agree that Purvi should stop thinking of Arjun's and Ovi's marriage and take the baby back. If Ovi has issues with Arjun visiting the baby, etc, Ovi and Arjun should deal with it, with divorce or understanding. If Purvi gives Pari to Ovi, Purvi should lay down some rules that the baby is hers and she has rights over her too, visitation, etc. This has gotten to be such a stupid story it does not even make sense anymore, I am so glad PV is ending because the producer did not want to mess up the story. Wish Ekta had the same sense.



Jhanvi,

Like anything else in the world, it depends on the people involved. And the situations. If the parents can work it out so the child is loved and knows he/she is loved and has stability shuttling between the parents, that's great. But, a lot of parents, even in the Western world where it is more common are not able to do that. And what you said about being raised is true, it's the same for me too. And I would think it it hold true for the middle class setting of PR. In India, especially in the middle class, there is no concept of sharing the children. Neither of the women involved would be happy with it--it goes against our upbringing. In this case, it's even more complicated. The bio father is still hung up on the bio mother, and everybody can see that.

Forget Ovi, she doesn't want to go back and I don't want her to go back. But if arjun marries again, will his new wife be able to accept purvi coming and visiting the baby and being in touch with arjun for the baby's needs if she knows that arjun still has feelings for his ex? Women are shrewd that way, we can feel when there's something happening in the background without being told. It would never work. The only way going forward is to either take full responsibility with arjun taking care of the baby's financial needs; or make a complete and clean break of it. Partial custody and visitation rights will not work in this setting, and especially with these people.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sowmya Purvi told Onir errr Ramukaka today that there is something which can be done abt his medical license...Wonder what she will do? She did not open her freaking mouth in the court..
Ramukaka Onir will understand now how Ovi has felt and dealt with these 2 amar premis charades in front and behind her back for the past 1 yr...lets see if he can deal with it for a yr...I think he might get dumped like a hot potato in no time as his work-use is done...MMLA is itching to be with the ex soon...If Onir gets out soon than he can save humilliation otherwise he will be watching 2nd baby by product of these 2 amar premis...Pari will have bro or sis 😆
Great posts Homie, Kools and Sowmya...👏
Janhavi I love how you holding on to your love for laadli Purvi 👏 wish she deserved your love and loyalty😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dabulls23

Sowmya Purvi told Onir errr Ramukaka today that there is something which can be done abt his medical license...Wonder what she will do? She did not open her freaking mouth in the court..

Ramukaka Onir will understand now how Ovi has felt and dealt with these 2 amar premis charades in front and behind her back for the past 1 yr...lets see if he can deal with it for a yr...I think he might get dumped like a hot potato in no time as his work-use is done...MMLA is itching to be with the ex soon...If Onir gets out soon than he can save humilliation otherwise he will be watching 2nd baby by product of these 2 amar premis...Pari will have bro or sis 😆
Great posts Homie, Kools and Sowmya...👏
Janhavi I love how you holding on to your love for laadli Purvi 👏 wish she deserved your love and loyalty😳



Varsha, did she? I must have missed it. Like I said in KC yesterday, PR is dead boring. The only bright spot is Ovi with her cool disgust and indifference. I hope she maintains that and does not give in when arjun comes begging. And you know what, Ovi was actually in a better place because arjun-purvi would never have the guts to do anything in front of her. That's what all their secret meetings. Ovi maintained her dignity at least that way. Onir has ensured his own downfall by being so understanding that they have the gall to have their scene right in front of him. He's completely taken for granted, and he will always be. He has lost everything, but he can still save what little respect he has by leaving. Now! I feel sorry for him, the poor guy. He had so much going for him, and he lost everything now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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EveryWhere Purvi is right how can it be possible? Even Kasab didn't make mistakes on mistakes but he was hanged on death bcoz he killed almost 200 peoples her,where in Purvi killed every1's heart by her Tyaags,Kaands,Jhota Waada,Pyar ki Nishani
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: archis_2013

Now, you are taking the discussion out of context to what my original response was about.
Statement 1: Purvi is shown romancing with her husband and intentionally not taking care of Pari - tejaswiniwenham and many times over in the forum.
This was either a fact or perception.
My comment to tejaswiniwenham: This was definitely a perception as she is shown struggling in her life and from her phone call with Arjun, she explain why she still wants to give a chance for Arjun-Ovi.
Statement 2: On the same note, Ovi was shown leading a normal life and shown getting a call from Romil out of the blue and in the next few scenes, she announces to her dad that she is taking up modelling.
My comment to tejaswiniwenham: By interpreting Statement 1 the way you want, I interpret Statement 2 as Ovi romancing with Romil. If 1 is acceptable, why is not 2?
Some more facts for your benefit, so pls do not get emotional and jump into conclusions
-> I have never till this day have claimed Ovi's child as anyone else apart from Arjun's. It did sound illogical that they reconciled so quickly but so is the rest of the show
-> I have said that Ovi should have a life of her own and she should move on.
-> I have said that Ovi cannot be forced to take up Pari and act as her mother. From how I have understood Ovi to be, this will not do justice to both Ovi and Pari. But I am not the CV of the show
-> I have said that Ovi would feel for Pari's kidnapping as she is the one who has taken care of Pari. It does not matter who the biological mother is.
So, I did not bring any other context about Ovi or Purvi in the equation but you did in your response.
If all this hue and cry about my one statement on Ovi, pls do go around the forum and respond on similar lines to what filth is being thrown on Purvi's character. To every response on the thread that every conversation between Jeeju-Saali was in bad taste and had "gandhee" motives, pls put forward similar comments on being broad-minded that you cared to let me know.
And ask similar questions to people who act as moral police and others who support them with their like button. I will accept with remorse that my assumption on Ovi-Romil romance was wrong.
But if you are also one of the rest who believes Ovi is above reproach but Purvi is not, I have nothing more to say. I will not waste any time further and I will move on.



Dear Vasu (right??),

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Statement 1: Purvi is shown romancing with her husband and intentionally not taking care of Pari - tejaswiniwenham and many times over in the forum.
This was either a fact or perception."""

First of all, Tejaswini has already reponded I believe. And she has clearly explained what she meant by her post; and your two statements do not summarize Teju's posts well at all. Like she said, her post was about how purvi had exclaimed that she could not live without pari, when the truth is that she had lived, quite happily in fact. I'll still take my shot at your two statements 😊.
Purvi is shown romancing with her husband--not saying they're not going through hard times, but they're finding time to romance as well---eating pav bhaji (or was it vada pav?) and being happy in each other's presence while doing it for example. I think that is romance, and that's good! They're married and have all the right to romance. For the second part of your first statement, purvi had intentionally not taken care of pari. You'll say she had good intentions, but whatever they were, her actions were intentional. So even though your summary of Teju's post is wrong, your statement itself is not. And I dont think anybody said that purvi did not care for pari because she wanted to romance her husband. Atleast the post you quoted did not.

Your first statement is true, while your analysis of it or of Teju's post before it is wrong. So there's no question of going into the second statement, and anyways I have made my point on that. I'm definitely not one to get emotional about trivial things, especially discussing fictional characters. But I'll keep your advice in mind 😊 I agree with your other points about ovi.

Finally, the part that you underlined. I have neither the patience nor the time or propensity to go about defending someone from one and all--much less a fictional character, even less someone I can never understand. Why would I defend purvi when I dont understand any of her actions or intentions when I don't go about defending ovi in every post though she's my fave right now by far? The reason I even wrote toy you, and it wasn't about the whole of your post but just the point about ovi-romil's romance, was because that is false. That statement is false, then there's no question about perception. DId I say anything about your comment on ovi going shopping instead of being in mourning? No!

About the jeeju-saali thing, whether ovi and purvi consider each other sisters or not, by virtue of sharing the same parents/ same name and siblings---they become sisters by relation. And their husbands become jeeju's in relation to the other siblings, doesn't matter what history they had before then. In my culture, sister's husband is "anna" not "mama" not "jeeju". Sister's husband becomes brother and like a father; and whatever relationship there was before marriage, after marriage you do not cross the line of dignity. I, along with a lot fo other Ovi supporters and sympathizers actually credit purvi for trying to stay away from arjun after marriage. It's the fans who want arjun and purvi to be together, and whether they like it or not, arjun-purvi are now jeeju-saali. I would actually like to see purvi truly move on and be happy with onir, because he's a good guy who stood by her and lost everything in the process and she seems to like him too. Or she can reunite with arjun, I really don't care either way. But, the fact would remain that they were (are??) jeeju-saali.

I'm not sure if you've followed PR from the beginning, or at least from when this new generation was introduced. Ovi has been vilely hated and accused of everything under the sun, called all sorts of names from "crazy chic" to "alcohol something lady" to much much worse offensive language. A few different abbreviations were going around, actually. Of course then that was the norm, only now abbreviations are disallowed. The only reason Ovi is hated a little less now is because purvi seems to be moving on and actually seems to be happy with onir. This is unacceptable because arjun and purvi are amar premis, and while they may be married and even make babies with other people, the consensus is that they should be miserable while doing so. They simply cannot be happy with anyone else, it is a pavitra rishta after all.😉

It's never been "what's right for the goose, should also be right for the gander" and it never will be. We're biased towards our favorites and will defend them till we're blue in the face even when there are facts before us telling otherwise. You may think anything ovi does is coz she's a spoilt, selfish brat while purvi is selfless and only has the best intentions. I think purvi is manipulative, confused, blatantly wrong in everything whereas Ovi was foolish but has learnt from her mistakes. Ovi is not beyond reproach, she has made her fair share of mistakes but that is over and done with, and she's facing the consequences of those mistakes and learning from them. Purvi has also done mistakes, and she continues to do so without learning from them or realizing that she has done anything wrong at all. She still maintains that "she gave up the baby for bhalaai" and she goes as far as to blatantly say she gave pari to ovi with "pura vishwaas". What vishwaas? Did she ask ovi before doing it? No, purvi has to learn to introspect and realize her role in everything, the mistakes she has made and learn from them. And STOP making more. It does not make it easier for a person getting ruined to know that his/her ruin was done with the noblest intentions.

Edited by sowmya_jairam - 12 years ago

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