I am sorry , I just feel the need to ask why arovi marriage would shatter without a baby ?
Arjun , being the man he is , at least for the sake of others would do everything to support Ovi
Ovi , would probably be heartbroken but all she ever wanted was Arjun
If Arjun and her were okay, the world would be okay
About Ovi being a brat
I didn't know thinking about yourself is bratty
Yes she may have destroyed the lives of amar premis
But when she did want to walk out
Arjun wanted a second chance
She is selfish
But tell me honestly , do we really like to admit what we have done wrong ?
For instance I took a year off (I was supposed to go to uni last year)
But I didn't go this year
Academically I know I made a mistake
I lost a year from my life
But to myself , I justify it by saying I needed a break
My break has raised many questions, my mom being a single mom had to handle all that
But I still don't regret it as much as I should have
I have never said it aloud because saying it might make it true
I would rather be selfish and do everything upfront
Than be Mahaan and play with everyone's trust, emotions
Originally posted by: archis_2013
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Now, you are taking the discussion out of context to what my original response was about.
Statement 1: Purviisshown romancing with her husband and intentionally not taking care of Pari - tejaswiniwenham and many times over in the forum.
This was either a fact or perception.
My comment to tejaswiniwenham: This was definitely a perception as she is shown struggling in her life and from her phone call with Arjun, she explain why she still wants to give a chance for Arjun-Ovi.
Statement 2: On the same note, Ovi was shown leading a normal life andshowngetting a call from Romil out of the blue andin the next few scenes, she announces to her dad that she is taking up modelling.
My comment to tejaswiniwenham: By interpreting Statement 1 the way you want, I interpret Statement 2 as Ovi romancing with Romil. If 1 is acceptable, why is not 2?
Some more facts for your benefit, so pls do not get emotional and jump into conclusions
-> I have never till this day have claimed Ovi's child as anyone else apart from Arjun's. Itdid sound illogical that they reconciled so quickly but so is the rest of the show
-> I have said thatOvi should have a life of her own and she should move on.
-> I have said that Ovi cannot be forced to take up Pari and act as her mother. From how I have understood Ovi to be, this will not do justice to both Ovi and Pari. But I am not the CV of the show
-> I have said that Ovi would feel for Pari's kidnapping as she is the one who has taken care of Pari. It does not matter who the biological mother is.
So, I did not bring any other context about Ovi or Purvi in the equation but you did in your response.
If all this hue and cry about my one statement on Ovi, pls do go around the forum and respond on similar lines to what filth is being thrown on Purvi's character.To every response on the thread that every conversation between Jeeju-Saali was in bad taste and had"gandhee" motives, pls put forward similar comments on being broad-minded that you cared to let me know.
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And asksimilar questions to people who act as moral police andothers who support them with their like button. I will accept withremorse that my assumption on Ovi-Romil romance was wrong.
But if you are also one of the rest who believes Ovi is above reproach but Purvi is not, I have nothing more to say. I will not waste any time further and I will move on.
Dear Vasu (right??),
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Statement 1: Purviisshown romancing with her husband and
intentionally not taking care of Pari - tejaswiniwenham and many times
over in the forum.
This was either a fact or perception."""
First of all, Tejaswini has already reponded I believe. And she has clearly explained what she meant by her post; and your two statements do not summarize Teju's posts well at all. Like she said, her post was about how purvi had exclaimed that she could not live without pari, when the truth is that she had lived, quite happily in fact. I'll still take my shot at your two statements 😊.
Purvi is shown romancing with her husband--not saying they're not going through hard times, but they're finding time to romance as well---eating pav bhaji (or was it vada pav?) and being happy in each other's presence while doing it for example. I think that is romance, and that's good! They're married and have all the right to romance. For the second part of your first statement, purvi had intentionally not taken care of pari. You'll say she had good intentions, but whatever they were, her actions were intentional. So even though your summary of Teju's post is wrong, your statement itself is not. And I dont think anybody said that purvi did not care for pari because she wanted to romance her husband. Atleast the post you quoted did not.
Your first statement is true, while your analysis of it or of Teju's post before it is wrong. So there's no question of going into the second statement, and anyways I have made my point on that. I'm definitely not one to get emotional about trivial things, especially discussing fictional characters. But I'll keep your advice in mind 😊 I agree with your other points about ovi.
Finally, the part that you underlined. I have neither the patience nor the time or propensity to go about defending someone from one and all--much less a fictional character, even less someone I can never understand. Why would I defend purvi when I dont understand any of her actions or intentions when I don't go about defending ovi in every post though she's my fave right now by far? The reason I even wrote toy you, and it wasn't about the whole of your post but just the point about ovi-romil's romance, was because that is false. That statement is false, then there's no question about perception. DId I say anything about your comment on ovi going shopping instead of being in mourning? No!
About the jeeju-saali thing, whether ovi and purvi consider each other sisters or not, by virtue of sharing the same parents/ same name and siblings---they become sisters by relation. And their husbands become jeeju's in relation to the other siblings, doesn't matter what history they had before then. In my culture, sister's husband is "anna" not "mama" not "jeeju". Sister's husband becomes brother and like a father; and whatever relationship there was before marriage, after marriage you do not cross the line of dignity. I, along with a lot fo other Ovi supporters and sympathizers actually credit purvi for trying to stay away from arjun after marriage. It's the fans who want arjun and purvi to be together, and whether they like it or not, arjun-purvi are now jeeju-saali. I would actually like to see purvi truly move on and be happy with onir, because he's a good guy who stood by her and lost everything in the process and she seems to like him too. Or she can reunite with arjun, I really don't care either way. But, the fact would remain that they were (are??) jeeju-saali.
I'm not sure if you've followed PR from the beginning, or at least from when this new generation was introduced. Ovi has been vilely hated and accused of everything under the sun, called all sorts of names from "crazy chic" to "alcohol something lady" to much much worse offensive language. A few different abbreviations were going around, actually. Of course then that was the norm, only now abbreviations are disallowed. The only reason Ovi is hated a little less now is because purvi seems to be moving on and actually seems to be happy with onir. This is unacceptable because arjun and purvi are amar premis, and while they may be married and even make babies with other people, the consensus is that they should be miserable while doing so. They simply cannot be happy with anyone else, it is a pavitra rishta after all.😉
It's never been "what's right for the goose, should also be right for the gander" and it never will be. We're biased towards our favorites and will defend them till we're blue in the face even when there are facts before us telling otherwise. You may think anything ovi does is coz she's a spoilt, selfish brat while purvi is selfless and only has the best intentions. I think purvi is manipulative, confused, blatantly wrong in everything whereas Ovi was foolish but has learnt from her mistakes. Ovi is not beyond reproach, she has made her fair share of mistakes but that is over and done with, and she's facing the consequences of those mistakes and learning from them. Purvi has also done mistakes, and she continues to do so without learning from them or realizing that she has done anything wrong at all. She still maintains that "she gave up the baby for bhalaai" and she goes as far as to blatantly say she gave pari to ovi with "pura vishwaas". What vishwaas? Did she ask ovi before doing it? No, purvi has to learn to introspect and realize her role in everything, the mistakes she has made and learn from them. And STOP making more. It does not make it easier for a person getting ruined to know that his/her ruin was done with the noblest intentions.
Dear Sowmya, We are rehashing the past events which is exactly what I wanted to steer away from.
I will respond to Tejeswini separately as the lady has taken pains to clarify her stand but the two points in her statement were
-> Point 1: how could Purvi say that she cannot live without Pari
-> Point 2: isn't Purvi living happily and romancing with her husband?
My response on both the counts
-> Point 1: Purvi can cry in anguish that she cannot live without Pari. Purvi leading a life with peace at heart that the baby is taken care by Arjun and Ovi Vs Purvi saying this when the baby is kidnapped - isn't there a marked difference? That even for a mother who has given away the baby for adoption hears something bad happened to the baby, cannot feel the same amount of pain even if she is still not raising the baby? If this difference is completely ignored and if Purvi's pain is questioned <u>andagainst the next point of Purvi happily romancing with her husband, what does that imply? That Purvi doesn't care about Pari as she is romancing with her husband. Come on, we cannot hide behind the semantics.
->Point 2: I have not seen Purvi leading a happy life or romancing with her husband as seen on the TV sets so far till the last two episodes that I have missed. Hence my point about fact vs perception.
Hence my counter-argument to Tejeswini was that if she could make an assumption based on her perception, I too could construct similar perception on Ovi. If what I have written about Ovi sounds ridiculous to you based on what is not shown on TV, so does what Tejeswini had written about Purvi sounded ridiculous to me as it was not shown on my TV.
On Ovi, it did appear strange to me that she is shown making a very important decision in life. It is not only the decision about modelling career (as DK points out she could continue modelling being his daughter in law) but she would not get back to Arjun. She makes this important decision after she gets the phone call and even more a strange fact, she is not even consulting her dad. She is all prim and proper in letting him know.
Based on the above fact, I asked Tej (if I can take that liberty) on why cannot I assume on Ovi-Romil relationship. (And to be perfectly honest, Ovi has all the right to do that if she has broken with Arjun in every sense of the word. These days, as far as men are concerned, a known devil is better than an unknown angel ! )
And hence my point about fact vs assumptions.
Hope this answers your questions as I assume you saw one of my response and jumped into the discussion. I cannot dissect this any further.
On your note on Jeeju-Saali , you have made the exact same point as mine. Sowmya, looks like we are both from the same culture too where a sister's husband is called anna (strangely, the wife too calls her husband 'anna' for matters that I don't understand ) but why do even have to go to the lengths of explaining the relationship and justifying every conversation between them? Have you not seen so many posts that acknowledges Ovi's anger and discredited Purvi's character because of the so called eye-locks and phone convos? I cannot agree more on what you wrote about men-women relationships in this modern world based on their interaction but isn't Ovi also from the same modern world who doesn't get the message? And what about the forum members who relish pointing out to the inadequacies of Purvi's character because she does not belong to this modern world? ( I would agree based on Purvi's dressing sense but nothing else😊)
Finally, my point was that everyone can criticise Ovi's or Purvi's actions but their character cannot be sullied because of their nature. And if we care to be objective in our analysis, we will not ignore their mistakes all the time, though we all have preferences in whom we like.
Yes, fully agree with you. Purvi needs to be given a strong message if not sound thrashing from Archana and no one else. Archana has been the role model for Purvi who will not get the message from anyone else. Purvi should be cured of her interfering nature as it has brought devastation on Arjun and Onir, not to forget her own life but it is not yet a closed matter that Ovi has not benefited from Purvi's good intentions. The fact that everyone keeps ignoring is that Ovi could have still had lost her child, Ovi could have still had a broken marriage if not for Purvi.Ovi's health, mind and spirit turned for the better only because of Onir and Purvi was the one to force Onir to take care of Ovi. Pari's truth is a different matter altogether but the truth could have come out some other day even if Purvi had not given Pari to Ovi.
And I would not hold my breadth that Ovi is fully reformed, over and done with in terms of her mistakes. Ovi still has a temper that flares now and then and a tongue that she doesn't control - this will take her back to square one any time. It doesn't matter if she realises her mistake later and apologise for it once the damage is done. We all don't have simialr luxury, do we? And above all, I read in WU that Ovi realised that she should not have insisted on marrying Arjun. With that gyaan, did she sound remorseful on the full devastation she had brought with her actions? I haven't seen the episode but if she doesn't , it still all about herself, isn't it?