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Kalapi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#151

Originally posted by: pallavi25
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But Ovi slept with Arjun knowing he still loved Purvi, didnt she? Is that any less dirty? Just because shes married to Arjun, by default, her consummation with Arjun doesnt become pavitra! Depends on how you look at it...sex without love is ...🤢

No dear, not acceptable, not the second time around, when Arjun came on his own accord and wanted a second chance. When one wants something, it is assumed that he wants it on his own accord and is honorable for the act. So, Ovi can very well assume that Arjun wanted to move on truly, as that what he said. He said, Ovi you are my wife and my future. If your hubby comes and tells you these words, wouldn't you trust him, even if he had past relationships before marriage??? I could, I agree Ovi was stupid for Arjun was never worthy of her trust that that is where she failed to evaluate him appropriately...

Purvi didnt dump him on her own accord, Ovi forced her to, rather blackmailed her into doing that! And THAT is not called dumping, its called handing over on a plate to Ovi the blackmailer for the sake of Archana Ayi's marital happiness!

If Ovi is responsible for her actions so was Purvi. Ovi have her a straight deal. There was no gun on Purvi's haed. You go away from Arjun, I will accept Aai. Purvi didn't have to force Arjun to marry Ovi, she could have just left, right??? Purvi forced Arjun to marry. Much more importantly, Purvi claimed that she loved Arjun and Arjun loved her back. So, presumable there must be some trust and understanding involved here, right. So, on that basis, Purvi could sure have called Arjun and talked with him, instaed of all the kasams and forcing Arjun to marry, isn't that a more acceptable way to deal with a situation for a Mature person as Purvi, We all agree that Ovi is the immature one, not Purvi right, or has that changed now???

She didnt marry Onir the next day, but 2 months later...I guess u have forgotten the chronology of events. You make it sound like Purvi jumped into bed with Arjun, dumped him next day and married Onir the next day! Jeez...😆

Not sure if this is directed to me, If so, please explain, for I fail to follow you here...

I was quoting Pari's post, not you. If u read Pari's post u will understand what Im saying.😊

So just because Arjun said lets have sex. Ovi had sex with him although she knew and felt all along that he never loved her and was still pining for Purvi?

So thats all kosher just because they were married?

Yet the moments Arjun and Purvi shared in that shack is supposed to be a dirty "kaand" just because they werent married yet? Arjun's act with Ovi is honorable but his act with Purvi is dishonorable and dirty? Even though they were in love with each other when it happened? And supposed to marry the next day?

Sorry I dont understand this screwed up moral policing! 😕

Dear Pallavi, Ovi trusted Arjun blindly again the second time around. She was utterly stupid about it as I said, but then when it comes to loving Arjun, she tends to love him blindly that there isn't any self-respect involved nor any assumption on her part. But, then you see, she changed ahain, after becoming pregnancy as then she realized that Arjun hasn't moved on at all. That was her reson of bitterness, and some amounts might have been directed to herself, for loving Arjun inspite of herself. The character seems to always want to give a second chance and that is why Onir, who she felt was neutral and wasn't treathening her relationship with Arjun could get through her. Here again she was able to accept Arjun has truly moved on (when it wasn't true). Sure again stupidity. But isn't Arjun showing the same stupidity where Purvi is concerned...

Now, I ask you my dear, since you think that it isn't Kosher for a legally married wife to have sex with her husband. What could you say of 90% Indian who have arranged marriages and are preggo within a year??? No love is involved, rather a very well negotiated business marriage involved between 2 families...for when 2 families are negotiated - it can be well compared to a business, right??? Also, let me remind yoy that there isn't any guarantee that there weren't any previous love relationship wth a third person before these 2 strangers are agreeing to marry someone else. In your eyes, these arent valid marriages???

I dont remember exactly what bargain Ovi had struck with Purvi, I will have to watch that episode again. But if Ovi demanded Arjun from Purvi in return for accepting Archu, the only way Purvi could guarantee that was to get them married. That way she could be certain Arjun would not come after her later.

I just had a thought, how evil and selfish Ovi was to barter her own mother's happiness and bargain abt own her parents' reunion after 18 yrs! Shes unbelievably selfish! I dont understand how Purvi even expects such a person to look after Pari or even accept her!

Well, I have a totally different take on this above, but am too tire to re-hash my take, I will pass...

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

#152

Well to sum my feelings

I don't believe that only people on the streets make tamasha . If that was so , the gossip mags would not be full of tamashas in hi fi parties by stars . For that matter even middle class log make tamashas . They fight in chawls and if they r in the upper middle class group they fight in the societies they live in . Vinod beat his daughter in the compond of his society coz pre marital sex to his middle class mind was an absolute no no .Tamashas r done irrespective of any class , depending on how much you have been pushed . Ekta Kapoor grew up witnessing tamashas by the elite in parties coz beyond the glam and glitter they lead very unhappy lives . Tamashas r nothing but the snapping point of extreme unhappiness and if someone from a rich family does it it does not mean he or she has a street like quality . Thats not what i see around me , that only street people behave thus , so i diasgree with that observation .

I will not go into what is crass or filth to me as i believe i already said that . But i want to point out something in PR that i as a viewer found distasteful . Constantly a threesome is projected as something awesome ...constantly word play is done to tell all that morality is subjective . Hindi movies show police raids and men arrested with two women in their arms in bed . Well that same filth is sold here ...the filthy idea of a threesome , not moving on and having mental attraction by staying in different marraiges .This threesome is projected by all the 3 leads of the show as a wonderful experience . Onir needed to be told sharply what this mentality of being a willing cuckold actually means and i applaud Ovi for that taunt ...coz i did not find it filthy but i find the idea of this threesome sold to us as filthy . Even yesterday holy trumpets were shown in the background when Arjun and Purvi stood in front of Ganesh with Pari . They both have other spouses . By all means , divorce , get married , this time honor it and then show holy trumpet blowing . But don't show this filth .

I don't think Ovi should take Arjun back or Pari to prove any true love . Why Pari is forced on her by Purvi is beyond me . She has a complete right to make a choice . The other woman has the child coz she had unprotected pre marital sex and the husband and even she expects his wife to take the responsibility . I find that confusing coz no court will buy it . Ovi should not take care of Arjun Purvi's baggage ...they should take care of their own baggage .

Manav as a dad has been wonderful to Purvi considering she was forced on him just a year back by his spouse who had taken that decision in his absence . He accepted her , went to do her kanyadaan although his own daughter did a suicide attempt , put her in his will but not his own bio son Soham , offered her a home , everything . Inspite of his own daughter writhing in mental agony he went to Mittal to try and stop him putting the husband of the other daughter who had wrecked his bio daughter's life in jail coz he was really upset with his adopted daughter's deeds but he believed she should have a life . He even went to bail her husband out for the same reason when he should have been furious with the duo and washed his hands off them and focussed only on his bio daughter . Even real dads cannot be this maganimous and i feel far too much is expected from Manav . He has been a better dad to Purvi than Archana has been a mom to her bio daughters ...she has only done Purvi Purvi Purvi and been a most unfair and partial mom . Manav has also been super nice to his adopted daughter than his own bio son with whom he has been relentlesslly unforgiving and had not gone to bail and rather wanted him to languish in jail .

I want Ovi to divorce Arjun . I want this as nothing has changed or ever will . Arjun simply wants her to nanny his baby . He still feels Purvi handles her beautifully and naturally . Shown yesterday . This biased perception is there coz he has the hots for her when so many days the wife was caring for the baby by spending sleepless nights . The divorce is not filed by Arjun when Ovi had not expected any marraige after the public declaration of love nor is it being filed now after Ovi clearly told him the marraige is over . Arjun is just not filing for divorce . Purvi expects no ,absolutely no divorce in that marraige . So i want Ovi to do the honors .

Ovi's drinking has been brought up at this stage to show what a horrid unfit mom she is . I can say a lot about why it is being brought up now but i will say this instead ...all the more reason for not raising Pari . But Pari is a girl so i wonder if she should be raised by someone who had a careless , unwed pregnancy . If that is excusable i don't see why Ovi's unhappy phase should be held against her coz i did not see her drinking when she was raising the baby . She took VERY good care of the baby though Arjun never complimented her and feels that Purvi is a born natural . But then Arjun would even praise Purvi's snores .

I am not referring to any particular post but talking in general as in the last few days i have skimmed through many . Haven't even read them fully . But what was interesting to me was the fact that it was thought that perhaps Ovi suffered her baby's loss coz she snatched what did not belong to her . So something that belonged to Ovi was snatched from her too . To this i say , depends on how u see it . There can be many who feel that Purvi hogged Archana as a mom and Archana became so involved in her that she never even phoned her bio children to check if they were dead or alive . While Ovi stood , alone and frightened waiting for her mom to come and find her as she admitted recently . Maybe thats why Purvi's own daughter is facing a motherless life inspite of having a mother ?

But i don't believe in far fetched convenient karmic effects though i believe strongly in karma as it is . The truth is

Nothing was 'snatched' and all took decisions with an adult sane mind

who 'snatched' who from whom can be interpreted differently by different people , it is like a kaleidoscope

Character development in

Purvi can occur if she sticks by Onir and refuses to go back to Arjun . A good chance is lost coz she chose Sulochana's house over him and is mainly responsible for wrecking the besotted fool's life . But all is not lost yet . She should consumate her marraige with him , somehow get his suspended license back and have children by him . If she has truly given Pari up , she should be like Shravani . She can do this penance for the havoc she caused .

Onir can occur if he stops saying that Purvi made no mistake and genuinely apologises to Ovi ...parrot like self righteouness that we made no galti is very annoying , and destroyed his character more than the action of the swap . If only they had shown him having guilt as an after thought , many would have gone softer on him. To this day he says NO GALTI which is simply infuriating now .

Arjun can occur if he misses Ovi as a person , his wife and not as a nanny . Also this missing has to be shown as HIS alone , undoctored by Purvi .

But this growth in characters will NEVER be shown . So fine , at least show a divorce then.

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pallavi25

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Posted: 12 years ago

#153

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Dear Pallavi, Ovi trusted Arjun blindly again the second time around. She was utterly stupid about it as I said, but then when it comes to loving Arjun, she tends to love him blindly that there isn't any self-respect involved nor any assumption on her part. But, then you see, she changed ahain, after becoming pregnancy as then she realized that Arjun hasn't moved on at all. That was her reson of bitterness, and some amounts might have been directed to herself, for loving Arjun inspite of herself. The character seems to always want to give a second chance and that is why Onir, who she felt was neutral and wasn't treathening her relationship with Arjun could get through her. Here again she was able to accept Arjun has truly moved on (when it wasn't true). Sure again stupidity. But isn't Arjun showing the same stupidity where Purvi is concerned...

Now, I ask you my dear, since you think that it isn't Kosher for a legally married wife to have sex with her husband. What could you say of 90% Indian who have arranged marriages and are preggo within a year??? No love is involved, rather a very well negotiated business marriage involved between 2 families...for when 2 families are negotiated - it can be well compared to a business, right??? Also, let me remind yoy that there isn't any guarantee that there weren't any previous love relationship wth a third person before these 2 strangers are agreeing to marry someone else. In your eyes, these arent valid marriages???
I dont remember exactly what bargain Ovi had struck with Purvi, I will have to watch that episode again. But if Ovi demanded Arjun from Purvi in return for accepting Archu, the only way Purvi could guarantee that was to get them married. That way she could be certain Arjun would not come after her later.
I just had a thought, how evil and selfish Ovi was to barter her own mother's happiness and bargain abt own her parents' reunion after 18 yrs! Shes unbelievably selfish! I dont understand how Purvi even expects such a person to look after Pari or even accept her!

Well, I have a totally different take on this above, but am too tire to re-hash my take, I will pass...

Im not talking abt love marriage vs arranged marriage here...the issue is premarital sex with love involved, as opposed to marital sex without love on one side at least.

And Ovi's feelings for Arjun cannot be called love either, its a sick obsession which made her force/bargain for Arjun to come to her despite knowing his happiness was with Purvi, not with her! I dont call that love, when you snatch the happiness of the person you love and make him miserable! She was always obsessed with Arjun whereas he only liked her as a childhood friend!

In arranged marriages, one partner may not know the other one had a lover before marriage because both partners dont know each other at all beforehand.

But here, Ovi knew Arjun from childhood, she found out Arjun loves Purvi, she was devastated, refusing to accept the bitter truth... but then she schemed and plotted to get him back!

So why is she and Manav and all the hypocritical Deshmukhs so shocked now to know abt Purvi-Arjun-Pari when they know the history? Why is Manav acting all moral when he knows very well Ovi broke up P-A relationship on the very day of their wedding? All have memory loss kya? 😆

Yes, they can be shocked and grieved that Purvi-Onir switched the babies and Ovi's real kid is dead (for which shes herself partly responsible)

But why get so shocked abt the fact that Pari is the result of P-A love? When they all know P-A were in love and almost got married?

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sashashyam

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Posted: 12 years ago

#154

Dear Pallavi,

I am not going into the rest of it, but it is simply incorrect - and as I do not wish to seem judgemental, I will not add 'unkind' - to say that Ovi was in any way responsible for her child's death.

She was drinking early in her pregnancy, but for the latter part of it she was absolutely disciplined and did everything Onir asked her to go, and he was very pleased and satisfied with her. If it had not been for Arjun creating that accident and her being thrown out into the road because the door on her side burst open, her baby would have been fine. And if Purvi had had the bad luck to be thrown out as well, her baby too might have died. So the person responsible for the opoor thing dying is Arjun, not Ovi.

It is one thing to dislike a character,which is of course your right, but one cannot dispense with the facts of the case now, can one?

Lastly, they never showed Ovi drinking in Canada so it is inaccurate to make sweeping statements, as are made so often here, that give the impression that she was a charter member of AA.

I am also curious as to why, seeing that it is nowadays PC. and indeed fashionable, to sympathise and empathise with all sorts of dysfunctional characters, 'understand' them and try to help them, Ovi does not attract such empathy and sympathy. I can only conclude that it is because she threatens to separate the Golden Couple. Now if it had been Purvi drinking like a fish, half the forum, I am sure, would have been overflowing with empathy, 'understanding' of all her traumas as an adopted child, and ready to find excuses for her and everything she did. Just as her husband and her lover do.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: pallavi25

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

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Posted: 12 years ago

#155

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Im not talking abt love marriage vs arranged marriage here...the issue is premarital sex with love involved, as opposed to marital sex without love on one side at least.

Oh dear, here we go again. Of course, as in arrange marriage, love isn't criteria for marriage. In Ovi Arjun case, Ovi loved Arjun and on top of it all, there were BFs. So, dear, there is already a foundation there.

oh, I get it. To you Ovi's love equates to obsession, for she couldn't let him go (that clique, if you love him, let it go). But the truth is love has many many form and forms of expression. And no one can really say, which is tre love and which isn't. And of course, giving oneself love might be only one form of love. To me love is if I can stand strong with the person always , to me Love equates very importantly to trust. But then obviously, you don't get worked up at all, when Purvi sold Arjun freely giving him kasams, nor it matters, when Purvi hid her pregnancy, of the fact that his other bio-kid was dead and disposed of, nor that Purvi swapped the baby. Nothing matters, that not for a single sec Arjun didn't go ballistic on Purvi for taking his life for granted. Rather, you find that is indicative of True love - and Arjun puppying around Purvi, Nothing matters to him. Now, that is love to you, when he continuously maked himself a fool. But dear, if one equates Ovi's love with obsession, they should do the same with Arjun, for both losses their self-respect in present of their "loved one"'. Of course, I do not believe I can convince you, so each their own. Besides, I can understand the logic that calling Ovi's love an obsession vs, Arjun, otherwise, both Ovi and Arjun comes on a same platform, and that isn't acceptable…no one, that is scandalous….

In arranged marriages, one partner may not know the other one had a lover before marriage because both partners dont know each other at all beforehand.

But here, Ovi knew Arjun from childhood, she found out Arjun loves Purvi, she was devastated, refusing to accept the bitter truth... but then she schemed and plotted to get him back!

But dear, you conviniently forget another fact too, that Arjun And Ovi was engaged to be married...

Nor the fact that Arjun himself wanted the second chance..or the fact, he went ahaed and slept with Ovi too, not sure that can be done by OVi alone😆. Besides, isn't the Onus on Arjun to tell Ovi the truth abt his relationship with Purv if he really wanted to move on...oh, wait, he never wanted to move on, right. Now dear, Ovi is done...so, why Arjun isn't applying for that divorce, Why going around and Ovi and wanting her to nanny PAri...

Btw, Ovi never broke any relation, a couple can only break their own relationship - that is untrue. No third person can enter into a relationship if the couple didn't allow it themselves. I said that for Arman and I tell for Arvi. A relationship is made by 2 and can only be maintained termnated by these 2 person. Ovi only showed the 'true'nature of Arvi;s relatiosnship...

Yes, they can be shocked and grieved that Purvi-Onir switched the babies and Ovi's real kid is dead (for which shes herself partly responsible)

But why get so shocked abt the fact that Pari is the result of P-A love? When they all know P-A were in love and almost got married?

Because, dear in an Indian Standrad and according to Sanskaari Purvi standard, Sex before marriage is cheee cheee...I get it you are from West, but the audience is Indian...so the shock dear

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pallavi25

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Posted: 12 years ago

#156

Originally posted by: sashashyam
Dear Pallavi,

I am not going into the rest of it, but it is simply incorrect - and as I do not wish to seem judgemental, I will not add 'unkind' - to say that Ovi was in any way responsible for her child's death.

She was drinking early in her pregnancy, but for the latter part of it she was absolutely disciplined and did everything Onir asked her to go, and he was very pleased and satisfied with her. If it had not been for Arjun creating that accident and her being thrown out into the road because the door on her side burst open, her baby would have been fine. And if Purvi had had the bad luck to be thrown out as well, her baby too might have died. So the person responsible for the opoor thing dying is Arjun, not Ovi.

It is one thing to dislike a character,which is of course your right, but one cannot dispense with the facts of the case now, can one?

Lastly, they never showed Ovi drinking in Canada so it is inaccurate to make sweeping statements, as are made so often here, that give the impression that she was a charter member of AA.

I am also curious as to why, seeing that it is nowadays PC. and indeed fashionable, to sympathise and empathise with all sorts of dysfunctional characters, 'understand' them and try to help them, Ovi does not attract such empathy and sympathy. I can only conclude that it is because she threatens to separate the Golden Couple. Now if it had been Purvi drinking like a fish, half the forum, I am sure, would have been overflowing with empathy, 'understanding' of all her traumas as an adopted child, and ready to find excuses for her and everything she did. Just as her husband and her lover do.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Dear Shyamala,

Did you read the link from Web MD I posted here and on another post? It clearly says that alcoholism in pregnancy can lead to miscarriage! Ovi's baby was already in delicate condition due to her drinking. Thats why Dr. Onir was her specialist, to make sure the baby survived its mother's excesses! Yes, she got thrown due to Arjun's so-called reckless driving (although it was the truck's fault that suddenly appeared out of nowhere)

Accidents can happen and Ovi's baby would have more chances of surviving if it had been a healthy baby to begin with. She was 6 months pregnant and it is possible to save a premature baby even after an accident. Ive heard of such cases, but the babies were all healthy, normal fetuses in those cases. So Ovi is partly responsible, Yes!

I cannot understand why everybody tries to support Ovi in all of this inspite of her horrible behavior with everyone in the past? With Archu, with Purvi and even with Arjun after marriage.

Ovi is just a spoiled, rich brat who should have been severely castigated by her father and mother a long time ago, when she bartered Purvi's fiance for her own parents happiness! Her family also tries to protect and shield her from all the consequences of her own bad deeds!

They didnt show her drinking in Canada but obviously she did...otherwise a non drinker doesnt suddenly start drinking one fine day and guzzle whole bottles without any effort. If you are not used to drinking, u cannot finish whole bottles like that! 😆

Ovi is as dysfunctional as Purvi, both have had defective upbringing, both are responsible for whats happened. Then why is half the forum defending the completely unstable Ovi while bashing Purvi ? Because shes adopted? And not the bio child of the golden couple Archana Manav? Princess Ovi deserved Prince Arjun but the sadak se uthayi gayi ladki is to be blamed for everything?

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

#157

The Canada raised girls were brought up with extreme indian values . They celebrated indian festivals thre , ate indian food there , were strictly supervised by their grandma and chaperoned by Arjun . Savita herself has said this . Teju had eaten a batatawada much before she came to India . Maybe thats why the twins could adjust that well with the chawl life .

I never saw the twins drinking in Canada .

Whatever Ovi was , she was oh so not a characterless person who had hung around with boys all the time . One or twice it was shown , but we see Purvi constantly hanging with young men like Vinay in the office and Teju meeting Sunny in cofee shops , yet i guess thats normal ?

Ovi was called conniving by some coz once she used two guys to get Arjun's attention . Well , recently , Purvi embraced Onir in front of Arjun on Holi day to send some message to Arjun ...the embrace was not out of love but to send a message . She did not stop and think what the proximity would do to a man who loved her but respectfully kept her distance and slept on the floor . Yet i would not call her conniving by this incident alone ...as it happens . And please don't tell me it was ok for her coz it was Onir was her husband while the boys were not ...the matter here is of harmless , momentary usage which i guess 90 % of college girls do in their college life .

Compared to Purvi and Teju , Ovi did not hang around much so i am puzzled .

The baby was lost due to Arjun's driving . Even yestrday he was shown driving rashly with Pari in the car seat . But i would not blame even him here coz these accidents occur . What amazes me is that even this is made out to be Ovi's fault .

And why should any girl automatically jump to the conclusion that of course if a girl and guy are married they must have had pre marital sex ? Arjun was a boy from a known family in Canada and was known for his dedication to his work and not sleeping around . Purvi was a middle class girl with family values that forbade pre marital sex so why should Ovi automatically assume about pre marital sex and not be shocked puzzles me .

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pallavi25

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Posted: 12 years ago

#158

Originally posted by: Kalapi

But dear, you conviniently forget another fact too, that Arjun And Ovi was engaged to be married...
Nor the fact that Arjun himself wanted the second chance..or the fact, he went ahaed and slept with Ovi too, not sure that can be done by OVi alone😆. Besides, isn't the Onus on Arjun to tell Ovi the truth abt his relationship with Purv if he really wanted to move on...oh, wait, he never wanted to move on, right. Now dear, Ovi is done...so, why Arjun isn't applying for that divorce, Why going around and Ovi and wanting her to nanny PAri...

Btw, Ovi never broke any relation, a couple can only break their own relationship - that is untrue. No third person can enter into a relationship if the couple didn't allow it themselves. I said that for Arman and I tell for Arvi. A relationship is made by 2 and can only be maintained termnated by these 2 person. Ovi only showed the 'true'nature of Arvi;s relatiosnship...

Yes, they can be shocked and grieved that Purvi-Onir switched the babies and Ovi's real kid is dead (for which shes herself partly responsible)
But why get so shocked abt the fact that Pari is the result of P-A love? When they all know P-A were in love and almost got married?

Because, dear in an Indian Standrad and according to Sanskaari Purvi standard, Sex before marriage is cheee cheee...I get it you are from West, but the audience is Indian...so the shock dear

Ovi Arjun engaged to be married, yes, also knew each other from childhood so their marriage isnt exactly an arranged marriage. Ovi knew Arjun loved Purvi! Thats the main issue here.

Indian standards...😆 I am Indian, born and grew up in India, only living abroad now!

But Ovi -Teju grew up in Canada from when they were 1 yr old! So they shd have more western thoughts and views. Ovi did modelling, she did fashion shows, she wore those skimpy dresses and skirts! Not exactly a shrinking violet, was she? 😉

Manav lived 18 yrs in Canada...then why are they all so shocked at P-A pre-marital relations? That is quite absurd! But then everything abt PR is absurd and OTT nowadays! 😆

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Hillylove

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Posted: 12 years ago

#159

100% Agree with you Kools👏

The Facts are:

Teju and Ovi were brought up with extreme Indian values, where premarital sex is totally a no no.

Besides that, in my country premarital sex is actually viewed as wrong,especially if you are brought up in a home with strong Christian values, even though many have broken that over and over again. Maybe because only about 1% of the society have marriages that are fixed (Indians mainly), and the average time for waiting for a man to date then marry you is about 4 yrs,( of course there are special cases). I guess people can't wait that long. 😆 but the reality is, we know it is wrong. Actually the world is suppose to know it is wrong, whether they follow it or not.

Based on Ovi's values regarding premarital sex, I know she would not dream that Arjun and Purvi would do such a thing especially since they were getting married soon anyway. What would be the rush? Compounded by the fact as Kool's said, that Purvi was from a background that would definitely not approve of pre-marital sex. Plus who the hell would just have sex with her fiancee and give him up so easily? Like who does that? It can't be a lady who values herself or her body.😳 Is Purvi saying that she values her Mother over her body that is a temple of God, is Purvi choosing her Mother over God, isn't that wrong?

Ovi and Teju did not have a history of drinking in Canada...btw you don't have to have a history of drinking to turn to it in the time of stress..As a person from the west from a liberal enough culture (not extreme though), I know that much. Frankly, contrary to what everyone said, even though Ovi drank alcohol while pregnant she was not an alcoholic at that time, she was heading there. Good thing she was helped before she became one full-time. Turning to alcohol sometimes when stressed does not make you an alcoholic. Drinking alcohol daily whether you have problems or Not is what makes you an alcoholic.

Ovi was not being conniving by making Arjun jealous, in that case All women are conniving then. No woman on the face of this earth can tell me, that seeing her love interest jealous because she is around another man, does not make her feel that he cares. Whether or not she did it intentionally. Why else would Savita help Ovi plan this? she knows that is one way to prove some interest is there. The whole situation must have revealed that Arjun was attracted to Ovi, even if he is not in love, and that would be motivation enough for Ovi to feel that a marriage could work, am I wrong or right? Putting all biases aside? If I was in Ovi's mind I would have believed Arjun likes me, and he did not even have pre-marital sex with me? So, maybe there would be hope for love later in the marriage. Nothing is wrong in that initial reasoning on Ovi's part.

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Hillylove

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Posted: 12 years ago

#160

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Ovi Arjun engaged to be married, yes, also knew each other from childhood so their marriage isnt exactly an arranged marriage. Ovi knew Arjun loved Purvi! Thats the main issue here.

Indian standards...😆 I am Indian, born and grew up in India, only living abroad now!

Manav lived 18 yrs in Canada...then why are they all so shocked at P-A pre-marital relations? That is quite absurd! But then everything abt PR is absurd and OTT nowadays! 😆

No offence, please don't be offended by me butting in. However, even though Ovi was brought up in a Western Culture, where she practised things that they do, like the skimpy dresses etc. as you put it, the basis of their Indian upbringing was heavily influenced by a woman who lived in India for most of her life, Savita. So, no matter what Savita is seen as, you can appreciate the fact that she lived like a typical Indian woman, she got married had children etc. etc. So, Ovi and Teju were not brought up any differently. If they were, then Ovi would not have wanted to marry Arjun in the first place, and if you notice she did not behave like a typical westerner who normally had a 'boyfriend first.' before marriage.

So, knowing the Indian values of No-Premarital Sex, which she was not having herself even though she was brought up in the liberal Canada, then obviously she would not expect that between Arjun and Purvi. I am sure she would not be surprised if Arjun had premarital sex with other girls in Canada who don't have the same values, but with Purvi it would be a no no because of Purvi's background that she is well aware of.

Edited by hillydee - 12 years ago

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