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Posted: 12 years ago

Dear Kalapi, you ask how did she show maturity? I will repeat as it bears repeating, the beginning of the marriage, she was suspicious, needling Arjun at every point, when she found out she was pregnant, she wanted an abortion until Savita told her the baby would cement her relationship with Arjun. She used the baby as a weapon to get at Arjun, drank, told him openly she didn't want to take care of her pregnancy because he cared for the baby not her (jealous of her own baby? immature to the height, I would say), even the baby flutters were treated by her like an unwanted hassle, then again her behavior with Onir, about the dinginess of his clinic, her wanting Purvi thrown out when she was pregnant, her accusing her of theft - surely all these are not signs of maturity? If you prefer to call it by any other name, such as selfish, manipulative, etc, be my guest. I was giving her the benefit because of her age and just terming it immature.

The weeks preceding the baby truth, we have discussed this before but I don't mind reiterating, Ovi had changed. She was happier, more confident and this lent her with a grace and magnanimity, even over the breast feeding incident. She was also more secure about herself and her position as Arjun's wife. She was no longer the self-centered spoilt girl who had turned up her nose at the chawl, asked her mom to ma'am her (before she knew of their relationship), she seemed to have found a new bearing and it suited her.

The baby truth was pulling the rug from under her feet, I readily grant that. The baby swapping was beyond terrible and her anguish is completely understandable and I have said in earlier posts I hope the CVs don't show a complete regression in her character as compared to the new maturity she has recently shown. I will not point fingers yet, the revelation has been recent and she may still overcome and realize that her marriage, Arjun and her little family are worth making a sacrifice for, forgetting the past and moving forward. Not saying this is what she should do, she stands at a fork, she can choose to leave him or stay with him. That is still entirely her choice.

Whether Arjun is worth it, is another matter entirely, I would say he definitely is, for he has learned his lesson, me thinks.

As for re-hashing the deal business, you asked me how I personally would have handled the truth, and I answered in all honesty. The deal would be integral to my reaction. The illegitimate baby here is not the result of an after marriage tryst or even the product of a pre-marital love affair that was hidden from me before marriage. If I knew about the alliance and went forward with the marriage, my decision would have been based on what had brought about that particular unwanted situation, in this case the deal that I myself put forth.

I did not blame ONLY Ovi for the deal. I was not apportioning blame here, I was not saying Arjun is not to be blamed, of course, he is. But again answering truthfully, if I married a man who was in love with my sister, I should be open to all the consequences of that action, no matter how or why my husband said yes, to the marriage. The fact he said yes, does not absolve me from my part in that bargain. He has his demons to deal with, I have mine, that is how I would see it. And as I said, I would be heartbroken to realize a baby came out of their alliance but I would have sense enough to fault myself too. And forgive me, in this going forward, I foresee Ovi having more sense that you perhaps do, I think she will realize that this was in the past and sincerely believe that she will emerge the bigger person than anyone gives her credit for.

Yes, any good parent or any girl with good sense would not have married a man who professed to be in love with her sister. I think that is just not done. I would not blame Archana and Sulo alone ( I understand you are talking about them agreeing to get Purvi married to Arjun), I would blame Manav and Savita too, yes even after the marriage, they never had a heart to heart with Ovi, even after knowing about the deal, Manav turned a blind eye, Archana at least put up an initial protest and did talk about it with Purvi. It is a parent's responsibility however old the child to at least try to impart some common sense to their offspring, if the child does not welcome the advice, so be it, at least the parent tried.

I will again answer your question to me about how I would handle the baby truth with your answer to my question. I would never find myself in that situation because I would not put my self-respect at stake and marry a man who loved my sister. And yes, neither would my parents who like yours held the strictest morals have allowed me to marry him.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: pallavi25

Masoom VS PR...


Cheating on your pregnant wife while out of town on business = DIRTY, SLIMY

Having a one-night stand with a complete stranger in the heat of moment without any love or feelings for her = DIRTY, SLIMY

Making love with your fiancee the night before marriage in a moment of weakness= LOVE AND PASSION

Looking sad and with longing at ex-lover who is with her present husband= DIL KA KYA KASOOR?

Being faithful and patient towards immature, unstable wife who is trying to harm your unborn child= Desperately unhappy yet good husband

Sacrificing her Lover and her Baby for the happiness of her adoptive mother and sister = PRICELESS!



👏 for each of those statements.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: pallavi25


But Ovi slept with Arjun knowing he still loved Purvi, didnt she? Is that any less dirty? Just because shes married to Arjun, by default, her consummation with Arjun doesnt become pavitra! Depends on how you look at it...sex without love is ...🤢
Purvi didnt dump him on her own accord, Ovi forced her to, rather blackmailed her into doing that! And THAT is not called dumping, its called handing over on a plate to Ovi the blackmailer for the sake of Archana Ayi's marital happiness!

She didnt marry Onir the next day, but 2 months later...I guess u have forgotten the chronology of events. You make it sound like Purvi jumped into bed with Arjun, dumped him next day and married Onir the next day! Jeez...😆


again, so very well said. 👍🏼
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

Er ...if Ovi drinks like a fish , isn't the baby better off with the mother who doesn't drink like a fish .😉 Isn't it better for the baby . Onir won't mind at all about the settlement and the visitation . The Kaand Trio can bring Pari up wonderfully amongst themselves ...sanskaars of the mom who doesn't drink like a fish , Arjun who is the world's most doting dad [ he gives the child that is alive 100% attention and does not waste a minute on the other dead one as he obviously believes that those alive need all the attention they get] and Onir who is a doctor [ i don't know his exact relation ...god father perhaps ? ]


Why the expectation that a bad alcoholic woman should 'understand' the true meaning of love and bring up Pari ? If Purvi cannot go back to Arjun bcoz of being happily married to a decent man , Arjun can marry a third girl or stay single , opting to be a part of the happy , sacred Kaand Trio I would NOT wish for Pari to be associated with Ovi who drinks like a fish at all . I would like her to grow up with the woman who does not drink ike a fish unless

The woman is incapable of giving the right values to Pari who is a girl as she herself became an unwed mom ? Some may ask that question ...perhaps Manju ...but thats rather far fetched and who gives a damn .



Kools, every saint has a past and every sinner a future. Ovi is still young and surely she should be given an opportunity to sudhar her past erring ways? 😉 Kidding, couldn't resist.

Pari is right, the CVs need to give us new fodder to discuss, this story is getting to be so blah now.


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: pallavi25


But Ovi slept with Arjun knowing he still loved Purvi, didnt she? Is that any less dirty? Just because shes married to Arjun, by default, her consummation with Arjun doesnt become pavitra! Depends on how you look at it...sex without love is ...🤢
No dear, not acceptable, not the second time around, when Arjun came on his own accord and wanted a second chance. When one wants something, it is assumed that he wants it on his own accord and is honorable for the act. So, Ovi can very well assume that Arjun wanted to move on truly, as that what he said. He said, Ovi you are my wife and my future. If your hubby comes and tells you these words, wouldn't you trust him, even if he had past relationships before marriage??? I could, I agree Ovi was stupid for Arjun was never worthy of her trust that that is where she failed to evaluate him appropriately...
Purvi didnt dump him on her own accord, Ovi forced her to, rather blackmailed her into doing that! And THAT is not called dumping, its called handing over on a plate to Ovi the blackmailer for the sake of Archana Ayi's marital happiness!
If Ovi is responsible for her actions so was Purvi. Ovi have her a straight deal. There was no gun on Purvi's haed. You go away from Arjun, I will accept Aai. Purvi didn't have to force Arjun to marry Ovi, she could have just left, right??? Purvi forced Arjun to marry. Much more importantly, Purvi claimed that she loved Arjun and Arjun loved her back. So, presumable there must be some trust and understanding involved here, right. So, on that basis, Purvi could sure have called Arjun and talked with him, instaed of all the kasams and forcing Arjun to marry, isn't that a more acceptable way to deal with a situation for a Mature person as Purvi, We all agree that Ovi is the immature one, not Purvi right, or has that changed now???

She didnt marry Onir the next day, but 2 months later...I guess u have forgotten the chronology of events. You make it sound like Purvi jumped into bed with Arjun, dumped him next day and married Onir the next day! Jeez...😆
Not sure if this is directed to me, If so, please explain, for I fail to follow you here...

Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Well, that what I have learnt in this forum, only physical cheating matter...nothing happens if hubby is fantasizing with his hot and having sex with wifey, that is a perfectly legitimate action . 😳 I guess I am an exception with few others😳


If she married the man knowing he had 'the hots" as you say for someone else, she married him as is, what made her think that she could stop his mind from straying? And if she didn't like what she had gotten herself into unthinkingly, she had the option then as she has now, to walk out of the deal. No one put a gun to her head to walk into this marriage or stay in it, it was her own choosing.

I get it, she thought she was acquiring him mind, body and soul, she should have read the terms of the exchange or at least clarified the fine print. She was in such a hurry that she overlooked that. Still not too late to clarify if she is going to stay or she can call it quits. The ball remains in her court.
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Posted: 12 years ago



Kalapi, there is no apportioning of guilt here or saying that because Ovi is guilty, the other two are not. All 3 are equally guilty.

Purvi did move on, she has made no attempt to have any relationship with Arjun, she kept her part of the deal. She has faced the consequences of her part in the deal, an unwed pregnancy, moving away from family. Arjun was saddled with an insecure, unhappy wife who did make his life hell initially. Ovi is now paying for her part in the deal (again before anyone brings it up, NOT the baby switch) and facing up to the truth about Pari.

Also, Ovi's deal was never classified as immature, that was a master coup, but the credit for that has to go to Punni though Ovi had the smarts to modify it suit her purpose. But since you brought it up, yes, Purvi was immature as was Arjun in agreeing to the deal. Ovi was immature in believing that marriage would erase Purvi from Arjun's heart immediately. So, all 3 guilty, all 3 immature, my POV.
Edited by soapwatcher1 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
So Janhvi, what you are saying (and I don't want to quote you here for the fear that you will think that I am pinning you😳), that if Ovi fail to accept Pari now as Arjun has begged her to come ad nanny his 'love child', Ovi loses on her recently gained maturity scale. And she simply has to accept PAri, for she proposed the deal.
But, as I said, the second time alone there wasn't a deal at all. It was Arjun who wanted his marriage with her. Ok, chalo - why rehash the story. But today Ovi said something else that I thought clap-worthy (Thanks CV👏). She said, why didn't you (Arjun) tell me about your physical relationship with Purvi? Valid, don't you think/ Now, you will tell me Ovi being a brat could have caused a ruckus in Arjun's life if he told her, she was doing the ruckus part anyway, why make his (Arjun's) life miserable...but, then isn't coming clean to Ovi was Arjun's responsibility too, if he truly wanted to move on.
The Truth is Arjun didn't want to move on, he justed wanted to follow Purvi's command of giving Ovi, pati ka Darja, which this MC🐷 did by giving Ovi shelter, food and Sex. Well, It is stupidity of Ovi to have thought or even believed Arjun after that one month. Actuallu, Ovi loved Arjun the same way Arjun loves Purvi - there isn't any self-respect involve here - both have this diwangi love that does things for the "loved'person without the thought of self. You can call it obsession too, but that is how these 2 loved - and has resulted in their downfall, in my POV...
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: soapwatcher1


If she married the man knowing he had 'the hots" as you say for someone else, she married him as is, what made her think that she could stop his mind from straying? And if she didn't like what she had gotten herself into unthinkingly, she had the option then as she has now, to walk out of the deal. No one put a gun to her head to walk into this marriage or stay in it, it was her own choosing.

I get it, she thought she was acquiring him mind, body and soul, she should have read the terms of the exchange or at least clarified the fine print. She was in such a hurry that she overlooked that. Still not too late to clarify if she is going to stay or she can call it quits. The ball remains in her court.

Janhvi, I guess we will never agree, so lets agree to disagree, but before I leave this post, let me reiterate, that I have said before (in many posts before) that Ovi needs to deal with the fact that Arjun never loved her. There is a HUGE BUT here though, in my opinion, for that logic (that Ovi needs to accept the fact that Arjun loved someone else) becomes null, the moment Arjun approaches Ovi, after the one month tamasha, and asked for a Second Chance. Here the request came from Arjun, Ovi didn't push him to accept her. So, her expecting Arjun to honor his own words and give her all the right that any wife should have, is only expected, right???? So, here the failure is on the part of Arjun, for he never honored his own words...and by that I mean mentally, physically and all else (nor did he even sincerely tried to do that - by Arjun's monologue to himself)
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Kalapi

So Janhvi, what you are saying (and I don't want to quote you here for the fear that you will think that I am pinning you😳), that if Ovi fail to accept Pari now as Arjun has begged her to come ad nanny his 'love child', Ovi loses on her recently gained maturity scale. And she simply has to accept PAri, for she proposed the deal.

But, as I said, the second time alone there wasn't a deal at all. It was Arjun who wanted his marriage with her. Ok, chalo - why rehash the story. But today Ovi said something else that I thought clap-worthy (Thanks CV👏). She said, why didn't you (Arjun) tell me about your physical relationship with Purvi? Valid, don't you think/ Now, you will tell me Ovi being a brat could have caused a ruckus in Arjun's life if he told her, she was doing the ruckus part anyway, why make his (Arjun's) life miserable...but, then isn't coming clean to Ovi was Arjun's responsibility too, if he truly wanted to move on.
The Truth is Arjun didn't want to move on, he justed wanted to follow Purvi's command of giving Ovi, pati ka Darja, which this MC🐷 did by giving Ovi shelter, food and Sex. Well, It is stupidity of Ovi to have thought or even believed Arjun after that one month. Actuallu, Ovi loved Arjun the same way Arjun loves Purvi - there isn't any self-respect involve here - both have this diwangi love that does things for the "loved'person without the thought of self. You can call it obsession too, but that is how these 2 loved - and has resulted in their downfall, in my POV...


Kalapi, no, not saying that she will lose her maturity at all if she refuses to accept Pari. If she decides after thinking through thoroughly about the pros and cons and decides she will never be able to accept Pari because Pari will be a constant reminder and pain to her, there is absolutely nothing wrong in that at all. Everyone has different levels of tolerance, no right or wrong about it. If she decides to stay because she determines that this was in the past and here is another opportunity to make her marriage work, nothing to fault with that either. Both decisions once taken, should be adhered to, you make your bed, you lie on it, that is owning up to your responsibilities and being mature. Before you ask me if this applies to Arjun too, of course it does.

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