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Posted: 13 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: Kalapi

What did Ovi do, Vilasini...Did Ovi cover her face and had the sindoor put on her maang? No...
Was she pleading with or put a gun on Arjun's head to put that pinch??? No, absolutely not...
Did Ovi plead or beg Purvi to accept the deal???? No, not at all., rather Purvi planned in for 2 days and executed the whole wedding flawlessly...so, how did Ovi force that sindoor in her maang...
Arjun was in sane health and saene mind stood on his 2 feet, went through the 7 pheras...didn't see ovi dragging Arjun behind the pherar, did we now????
So, what did Ovi do...should we give what is due to all 3 characters...Ovi rather gave up on her deal and was making her way up to the heavens...so why are we blaming her for things, she never did...she only put forwrad a deal...no one was forced by either underhand tactics or a gun to accept...the rest of what happened was done by Purvi and Arjun alone...come on...shouldn't we be fair to this fictional characters...

No she didnt put a gun to Arjun's head...though if she did he probably would have rather she shot him instead...at the rate he is going...life is so much miserable for him...jumping off a cliff is a better option than marriage to this brat!!! Oh and btw...emotional blackmail is just as effective...if not much more traumatic than any physical act of violence. In an earlier post I even gave an example. It happens all the time...and we have countless examples of children being emotionally blackmailed or forced by parents. It always backfires...always.
Why are we blaming Ovi for things she never did??? Are you serious???? Who had the crafty ingenuity of making the Devil's deal in the first place??? That too for her own selfish reasons??? Look at what you yourself said..."making her way up to the heavens??" Dont you find that at all sick and twisted? Just because she cant have Arjun she has to resort to this?
Also, let us look at the facts. The poor boy was subjected to the shock of his life. He thought he was happily getting married to the woman is the love of his life and his heart and soul...only to be waylaid with a whammy like that on the way to the very mandap!!! He is in complete shock, confusion, anger...he is not in his senses at all!!! What do we say in life...never ever make a decision when your emotions are heightened and you are unable to think clearly and are not yourself. Right??? So??? How can you say nobody forced him??? If you ask me, he was definitely forced...which he himself states to Purvi clearly on the doorstep that day. It was not voluntary, unwilling, and what makes you think I am going to accept Ovi as my wife?? Any attempt he is making to be somewhat decent with her is solely because of Purvi and we both know it.
Vila...you are right...and if you guys can get the facts straight you will realize the flaws in your arguments. But then nobody can win with you bunch can they? 😆 When you can bash Archana off and on...Sulo and everyone...where is poor Purvi to stand a chance? It was ony a matter of time...and bound to happen sooner or later with you all...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: jdronamraju



Oh Kalapi..Do you really believe Ovi was making her way to the heavens !! Based on what, her word !! Yes, she just put forward a deal but how well... and so underhanded knowing Purvi's weakness..it was a master piece action.. Nothing that a person who is on the verge of suicide, if authentic, can do !! Yes, I agree.. Arjun and Purvi didnt have to go through.. But, they did..for they are fools in their own way.. But, She definitely played all her hands very well... Please dont make her out to be the innocent party in all this. She is the MAIN catalyst for this disaster.. even though in the end it was Arjun and Purvi are to blame...

Yes she did, btw the 'deal' was conceived by Punni for Archana, when it didn't work, Ovi tried out on Purvi...nothing master piece by her when the 'deal' was conceived by Punni...as for the second suicide that was shown in the serial, am not extrapolating anything...Arvi fans can create anythng so sand, if neede to defend their fav jodi...that is ok by me...np...I just see what it is shown in the serial...that is all...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: Kalapi

But JD, what made you conclude that the suicide attempts by Ovi were fake...what did her suicide attempt achieve in reality...nothing, right?? Did her first attemp wake anybody up...Did Archana stop asking MAnav to do Kanyadaan, did she not bring the wedding card, or have Arjun and DK come to meet her and talk with her...rather her first suicide attempt was pushed under the carpet and wasn't even part of the conversation in Karanjkar's or desmukh's household, right??? Archana didn't even show concern, MAnav concern was minimal...so surely Ovi didn't get a clue that trying another attempt will achieve anything for her...in the serial it wasn't shown as those were fake attempt...we didn't see anything to extrapolated either...so how did you conclude those were faked, because the first failed...oh well, that no conclusion as far as my scientific brain could conclude...



Ok,my scientific brains definitely concludes that way by sheer logic (I do have scientific degrees to prove it, just kidding, 😊..dont get serious on me) No person who intends to commit suicide really, will do it so openly when her sister is just around in the other room, and knows pretty well, can be there any second. I dont really care how Manav and Archana reacted. Have they ever reacted correctly? If Manav was a responsible parent, would Ovi be in that state? Why didnt he take her into hand when she still persisted on Arjun jaap even after he said before everyone that he loves Purvi and not her. DK and Arjun, dont even know that she did that attempt, so why would they come talk to her?
Why do I have to believe what I dont see? The first one did not fail, because she just did not complete it. When I don't believe the first one, why would I believe the second one which no one was even a witness too.
Just as you think they are genuine, I think they are fake..
As always, Kalapi, we have our own POV !! 😊

yes, they did not achieve anything big.. But, the drama was created, nonetheless..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Vilasini...self respect is extremely subjective, what is self respect to one isn't to another...can give many real life examples...for Ovi, her love for Arjun goes beyond her self respect...btw, where is Arjun's self respect now, when he is running a married man after a girl, who neatly packed and sold him, he was 2 timing before and 2 timing now...where is his self respect now???

Kalapi.. please stay with the discussion point.. Regarding Arjun & Purvi..
Arjun & Purvi are nuts.. so I am not going there..sacrifice on top of sacrifice.. only they can deal with that kind of sacrifice, not you & me
I have already stated this.. The point is about Ovi.. even that came up coz I liked that Mangalsutra & Sindoor quote of StandingAlone..
If she truly loves Arjun, why would she marry him like that without explaining him the real reason.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: Kalapi

Yes she did, btw the 'deal' was conceived by Punni for Archana, when it didn't work, Ovi tried out on Purvi...nothing master piece by her when the 'deal' was conceived by Punni...as for the second suicide that was shown in the serial, am not extrapolating anything...Arvi fans can create anythng so sand, if neede to defend their fav jodi...that is ok by me...np...I just see what it is shown in the serial...that is all...



It doesnt matter whose idea it was, it was who executed it with such aplomb. She did it without any ethics or conscience, that is what is appalling. It shows that she will go to any lengths to get what she wants..
As far as ARVI fans wanting to create anything on sand, please let us not go there.. I thought we were discussing this with our own opinions and not generalizing others. I am also seeing what is shown in the serial, and that is what I deduct from it. It is how we perceive the things we see is different. We just see it differently, that is all. It definitely does not mean, you see it correctly, where as it is my figment of imagination because I want to defend my fav jodi.. or even vice versa... I think we are all mature adults who can see things logically in our own way.

If you want to agree to disagree, that is fine with me.. I am sure we will have lot more discussions this way.. so, no hard feelings..😊


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Posted: 13 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: archverma10

No she didnt put a gun to Arjun's head...though if she did he probably would have rather she shot him instead...at the rate he is going...life is so much miserable for him...jumping off a cliff is a better option than marriage to this brat!!! Oh and btw...emotional blackmail is just as effective...if not much more traumatic than any physical act of violence. In an earlier post I even gave an example. It happens all the time...and we have countless examples of children being emotionally blackmailed or forced by parents. It always backfires...always.

Emotional blackmail is effective surely...but emotional blackmail of Arjun happened by none other than Purvi...Purvi was given the deal only once by Ovi...there wasn't any underhand tactic or follow up phone calls for Purvi to accept...rather Ovi gave up, as she herself said to Punni...so why blam Ovi when the other two are more at fault for accepting it...
Why are we blaming Ovi for things she never did??? Are you serious???? Who had the crafty ingenuity of making the Devil's deal in the first place??? That too for her own selfish reasons??? Look at what you yourself said..."making her way up to the heavens??" Dont you find that at all sick and twisted? Just because she cant have Arjun she has to resort to this?
Suicide attempts are not sick and twisted, rather a sign of depression, depression that covers a variety of mental imbalance...so calling someone twisted is a bit who is depressed is something I feel rather cruel to put it mildly...sorry, so see such opinion in esteemed members of the forum...
Also, let us look at the facts. The poor boy was subjected to the shock of his life. He thought he was happily getting married to the woman is the love of his life and his heart and soul...only to be waylaid with a whammy like that on the way to the very mandap!!! He is in complete shock, confusion, anger...he is not in his senses at all!!! What do we say in life...never ever make a decision when your emotions are heightened and you are unable to think clearly and are not yourself. Right??? So??? How can you say nobody forced him??? If you ask me, he was definitely forced...which he himself states to Purvi clearly on the doorstep that day. It was not voluntary, unwilling, and what makes you think I am going to accept Ovi as my wife?? Any attempt he is making to be somewhat decent with her is solely because of Purvi and we both know it.
Dear, he was forced by Purvi only, Purvi who claimed to love him and made those promised, planned and executed the marriage flawlessly...Purvi called Ovi too after convincing him, not to mention Purvi got Ovi dressed perfectly for the occasion...yes, Arjun was under stess, but created by none other than by his beloved...and btw, if he doesn't want to stay married now, why isn't he applying for divorce...does he need that permission too from Purvi...
Vila...you are right...and if you guys can get the facts straight you will realize the flaws in your arguments. But then nobody can win with you bunch can they? 😆 When you can bash Archana off and on...Sulo and everyone...where is poor Purvi to stand a chance? It was ony a matter of time...and bound to happen sooner or later with you all...

Dear, my arguements aren't flawed, nor am I any fan of any jodi, rather I am interested in the storyline...so criticise all as I see from my POV...btw, I do have an impressive resume too, work in a reputed field and am respectecd in what I do, too...since, it seems in thsi forum everyone seems to feel the need to announce their credentials...but, rather I feel I can do my arguements without the need to be validated or supplemented by my professional or academic achievements...
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Posted: 13 years ago
#87
For me... the END does not justify the MEANS.
How Arjun and Ovi ended married is just as relevant as the fact that they are married!!! U cannot ignore how they got there, just because they are there.
Arjun and Purvi's stupidity is not the subject here. For we both know that they are fools, Fools in love... with each other, Purvi with her aai... and both of them with the need to show their love to whomever...
BUT... the issue is what Ovi did... and whether we wish to face that fact or not, it still remains a FACT. She was wrong with what she did and its about time we all stop wrapping it up in cotton wool and treating it as acceptable.
It is NOT acceptable for any daughter to use her mother as a bargaining chip, its not acceptable to for ANY daughter to completely disrespects her father's upbringing, it is NOT acceptable for someone to USE their suicide attempt to garner sympathy, its NOT acceptable to start a marriage based on lies, blackmail and selfishness.
As for it being Punni's idea. Of course it was... but Ovi was smart enough on her own to know it will work on Purvi and take it to her... she even had the sense to drive to the K's house to offer up the proposal.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#88
I watched the Ovi Arjun wedding scene again, Ovi looks ecstatic even as Arjun looks miserable, what kind of person would insist on extracting her happiness from someone else's anguish that too if that person is the one she alleges to love?

Punni might have hatched the plot but it was Ovi who acted upon the plan so it does not absolve her, on the contrary her actions prove that she will go to any extent to achieve her end. Determination and perseverance may be good characteristics to have but they are definitely not admirable traits when they are exercised at the cost of another's happiness especially not the happiness of the one you profess to love.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#89
Point to note: We are all adults here and we all seem to be smart, therefore we can all count.

So... that being said... Its no longer a 3 month love ... it has progressed to a 6 months love and that too a very strong love.
Love, like most things in life, is not valued on the time spent, but on the quality of the time spent and the moments made.
After all... you can spend 1 year with a person, live in the same house and not utter more than formalities and never know a single thing of that person... and u can spend 1 month and the result would be completely opposite.
Quality my friends... NOT quantity!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: Ashlaika

</div>Point to note: We are all adults here and we all seem to be smart, therefore we can all count.
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So... that being said... Its no longer a 3 month love ... it has progressed to a 6 months love and that too a very strong love.


Love, like most things in life, is not valued on thetime spent, but on the quality of the time spent and the moments made.


After all... you can spend 1 year with a person, live in the same house and not utter more than formalities and never know a single thing of that person... and u can spend 1 month and the result would be completely opposite.


Quality my friends... NOT quantity!



True, Ash. A mom bonds instantly with her new born, no one questions the validity of her love even if the baby is a day old, a month old or ten years old. You can share a lifetime with a person and not love them (your in laws? Archana and Savi, Manju and Sulo) but spend a week with someone and realize you are soulmates. Love cannot be quantified by the minutes you have spent with the other person but is cherished by the moments of togetherness you have shared.

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