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Posted: 12 years ago
#71
Love part will follow too...
What happened to the 3 months old genuine deep true love?? Was dumped by that love right?
May be Arjun will appreciate Ovi's love for him and realize the 3 month;s love that he thought was true was his obsession indeed...
A wake up call and a new beginning and appreciation for Ovi's cheating...Blessing in disguise 😃
ADD: Thanks kools for mentioning abt Ovi did not hide or tell Purvi not to tell anyone abt the deal..She did not even tell same to Archana...Her deal was up and up...not cheating..But if some wants to label or call it that than so be it...Who am I to convince anyone? 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Lets agree to disagree loveanime as i know quite some people who have lived through their failed suicide attempts and gone on to have perfectly normal lives after realising their folly It is not always a chemical imbalance ...though sometimes it is and these people are not ticking time bombs .

I never said give in to their demands . I advocated change of apprach and understanding .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: loveanime



Yeah it is partly some level of mental strain, but that is not what triggers suicide it is more chemical imbalance. A girl like ovi who lives in a world of delusions needs serious help.
I have met some amazing people who live thru unimaginable mental stress but find the courage and energy to live their lives. Suicide is not a cowards way out but it is definitely sick person way out. You don't give a sick person their favorite toy and hope they get better it doesn't solve the problem. This is soap so ovi will be fine, but in real life people like ovi are just ticking time bombs.



We are assuming here that Ovi's suicide attempts were genuine. But, let us look at the facts..
I think that Ovi uses these suicide threats for blackmail than really do it. Both the times she tried were just dhamkis and not a real attempt. Come on, the first time she tells teju that she will make tea, goes into the kitchen, and does it in slow motion that does little damage until Teju comes. If someone really wants to do it, will not do it there, knowing her sister is just in the next room and will come looking for her.
The second time, who knows if she did it or not. It was just her saying..

The next time Arjun wants to leave her, be sure to hear of another attempt by Ms. OVI



Edited by jdronamraju - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sowmya_jairam


Sorry for butting in, but are you seriously threatening about defeating a real person in a debate on fictional characters? From her posts on this thread, I haven't found a single line where she's abusive towards arjun or purvi, leave alone real people. Believe me, I did go through all the posts on this thread before posting. You're not only being unnecessarily abusive to a real person, but also terribly judgemental when you say sherma cannot hope to win in an educated and classy debate, based on logical analysis, with you.

Oh I am not abusive at all. But we ARVIans know Sherma...and are well aware of how we have been subjected to posts against ARVI in the past. I for one, am not an abuser of ARMAN. I happen to like Archana...I share the same name as her...and do not have any problem whatsoever with her and Manav's relationship. I know I have many ARVIan friends who will back me up when I say we have seen many posts by many of you guys slamming Arjun and Purvi...though you praised Purvi for her sacrifice being the catalyst of events to bring ARMAN together in the first place.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and to agree to disagree. Nobody disputes this. I want to know why she systematically and persistently posts in such language against ARVI. We love them. You dont like them. What has happened to us is painful and we are trying to get each other through it. If you dont like it leave us alone. There is no need to add insult to injury.
And I meant what I said. I have a reputation in this forum...a respected one...of being sound, analytical, and writing posts based on the FACTS. I also happen to have a pre-law background and scored a 162/180, which was in the 88-92 percentile across the entire United States on the Law School Admission Test (LSAT). When I said Sherma will not win in a debate against me I meant it. If you believe she is so eloquent perhaps she can explain to us her personal vendetta against ARVI---and you need not put words in her mouth. It is her I am talking to. Not you.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: vgiri

Those statements from StandingAlone only reflect what Ovi did.. Nothing about Arjun or Purvi..

Is that true or not?

What did Ovi do, Vilasini...Did Ovi cover her face and had the sindoor put on her maang? No...
Was she pleading with or put a gun on Arjun's head to put that pinch??? No, absolutely not...
Did Ovi plead or beg Purvi to accept the deal???? No, not at all., rather Purvi planned in for 2 days and executed the whole wedding flawlessly...so, how did Ovi force that sindoor in her maang...
Arjun was in sane health and saene mind stood on his 2 feet, went through the 7 pheras...didn't see ovi dragging Arjun behind the pherar, did we now????
So, what did Ovi do...should we give what is due to all 3 characters...Ovi rather gave up on her deal and was making her way up to the heavens...so why are we blaming her for things, she never did...she only put forwrad a deal...no one was forced by either underhand tactics or a gun to accept...the rest of what happened was done by Purvi and Arjun alone...come on...shouldn't we be fair to this fictional characters...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: StandingAlone

I understand ur POV & Agree to some extent :

A marriage not some gudde-giddiyon ka khel,True.
Its a family affair..True
but
what makes it bond "2" family if because of whom they bonded,those two themselves are not bonding well?

Marriage is a big thing.Be it love or arrange..In arrange marriage we dont know the other person well,so we eventually fall in love by knowing them gradually but here Arjun had known Ovi almost all his life yet he didn't fall for her then just coz he had to marry her (For Purvi's sake)how can we say he need to accept her n move on? Is moving on that simple? That too from a life you wished to live? from someone who loves u a lot n you know it & from someone whom u love? No,It ain't that simple.

All his life inspite of knowing Ovi he couldn't love her n she was nothing but just a friend to him,He never believed in love till Purvi happened to him.
I wont even say Ovi loves Arjun..She is just in a huge obsession which she calls love..You can blame her n @ the same time you cant (Read-Im just talking about her Love philosophy,Not the wrong doings) when you get to know that you goona get married to this particular guy, in your childhood & you being friends with him since then,one surely start living in that dream but just to save that dream you can't expect the other person to do the stuff which his heart dont allow him to do.Afterall he didn't dreamt the same.It was all his dad's decision 1st & later he,too didn't want a force marriage for his son.


& about Purvi- What you think,It was easy for her? U say noone forced her? wasn't it Ovi who had a 'give Arjun n I'll also take Aai 'deal with her?
God forbid but any child who is orphan & got into such situation what else you expect him/her to do? Purvi's action justified here..

Where Arjun is the one @ loss.He did so much to get the love of his life in his life but before Purvi's pledged he had to bent down coz he understood what she was going through n how much Archana means to her but that doesn't mean he meant any less to her.It's just about "mother" & he knows it well.He got married to her but accepting Ovi or not that only him to decide.

Yes,Ovi might not doing anything wrong to his family but what she already did u still think she needs to add more into the list?

The guy,still living in the same roof with the girl who literary blackmailed n got him..& the funny thing is after knwong that (Parents) didn't even gave two hoots about it..If I were in Ovi's parents place I 'd have given her atleast 2 tight slap 1st n then handing her over to her own fate (Leting Arjun deal with it)but alas!The parents are romancing themselves lol (Not that I say roll tears all the time but thinking about Purvi's pain n what the girl has done n why n asking few question,much needed one,wont hurt their "affaction capacity for their own kids"

Arrange marriage can be taken forward if it has been done forcefully by the parents ,in that situation u can't blame any of the partner but u have to understand n move on with passing time(Passing time).

But in this case all know who has caused the forced marriage n coz of what it took place n how,so expecting the person to move on isn't it too much to ask for? & I find it very mean.

I have not done any PH.d on LM or AM or relationship n didn't write so much in favor of any particular character or jodi (If anyone think I favor more) but the stuff is-It's visible whats right n whats wrong..It's just not limited to the word " Marriage" Or the family affair stuff,Marriage happen in life but a marriage can't takeover a life.

A magalsutra & a pinch of sindur are valuable but its valueless if it doesn't even matter to one n one got it by sheer cheating.It may earn you a name or ur relationship but don't give you the rights or bring love along.

& If physical torture is a torture then mental / emotional torture are too ..

This was how I look upon this issue.Like you had ur POV,this was mine.

Thanks..


@bold very good..
@red well said..
the parents didnt give a hoot because it all worked out for them too. They all made a token protest initially, and then got all dressed up glamorously, especially the mother, and partied away, smiling and laughing with guests, without a thought to the miserable girl at home, and the devastated groom.
DK , because, he got his original bahu he always wanted that fit his social status. But, had to agree to Purvi before for Arjun's sake.. So, now he is all happy, treating her like a princess, all set out to make her the next business executive.
Manav, the only who made more than a token of protest, but ONLY at home, mind you.But, then Ovi darling turned on the tap and said 'you know i always wanted Arjun all my life.." and that was it, everything was swept away under the carpet.. Looks helplessly at her, even when she asks him to accept archana else arjun would leave her... WOW !! And still, the proud parent just CANNOT do anything because it is his grown up kid, right?
Archana, I am not even sure if I can go here sanely. She cries buckets at home with Purvi, but gets dressed like a movie star, comes to the reception, and is socializing like nothing happened, says a couple of sharp retorts, and that is it. She is done and then blesses them. She knows in her heart that HER Manav's girl is happy.. So, he is happy too.. So, why would she make a hue and cry now..
Yes, all the three kids made big mistakes.. But, as parents, other than watching it as a show did nothing. Not even an attempt to sort the issue or delve into it. They are still in India. Which Indian parent accepts such a deed done by their kids so apathetically? No one, absolutely, NO one has questioned it.. Just accepted it and moved on with their big party... Young adults do lot of things in high emotions. Doesnt mean that the parents validate everything, accept it and say "OK, now deal with it. You are all adults, so now, that you have done it, every one live happily ever after in these new combinations !!" .. WOW, I am still amazed...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: jdronamraju



We are assuming here that Ovi's suicide attempts were genuine. But, let us look at the facts..
I think that Ovi uses these suicide threats for blackmail than really do it. Both the times she tried were just dhamkis and not a real attempt. Come on, the first time she tells teju that she will make tea, goes into the kitchen, and does it in slow motion that does little damage until Teju comes. If someone really wants to do it, will not do it there, knowing her sister is just in the next room and will come looking for her.
The second time, who knows if she did it or not. It was just her saying..

The next time Arjun wants to leave her, be sure to hear of another attempt by Ms. OVI



But JD, what made you conclude that the suicide attempts by Ovi were fake...what did her suicide attempt achieve in reality...nothing, right?? Did her first attemp wake anybody up...Did Archana stop asking MAnav to do Kanyadaan, did she not bring the wedding card, or have Arjun and DK come to meet her and talk with her...rather her first suicide attempt was pushed under the carpet and wasn't even part of the conversation in Karanjkar's or desmukh's household, right??? Archana didn't even show concern, MAnav concern was minimal...so surely Ovi didn't get a clue that trying another attempt will achieve anything for her...in the serial it wasn't shown as those were fake attempt...we didn't see anything to extrapolated either...so how did you conclude those were faked, because the first failed...oh well, that no conclusion as far as my scientific brain could conclude...
Edited by Kalapi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

What did Ovi do, Vilasini...Did Ovi cover her face and had the sindoor put on her maang? No...
Was she pleading with or put a gun on Arjun's head to put that pinch??? No, absolutely not...
Did Ovi plead or beg Purvi to accept the deal???? No, not at all., rather Purvi planned in for 2 days and executed the whole wedding flawlessly...so, how did Ovi force that sindoor in her maang...
Arjun was in sane health and saene mind stood on his 2 feet, went through the 7 pheras...didn't see ovi dragging Arjun behind the pherar, did we now????
So, what did Ovi do...should we give what is due to all 3 characters...Ovi rather gave up on her deal and was making her way up to the heavens...so why are we blaming her for things, she never did...she only put forwrad a deal...no one was forced by either underhand tactics or a gun to accept...the rest of what happened was done by Purvi and Arjun alone...come on...shouldn't we be fair to this fictional characters...

Kalapi, Do you think a girl with some self-respect do what she did to HERSELF..put a deal in front of Purvi, and when Purvi accepted the deal and gave up Arjun.. Arjun with sane mind kept looking at PURVI the whole time and married OVI.. look at it from OVI;s side.. if she wanted a genuine marriage, wouldn't she be explaining things to Arjun and married him when he is calm.
Arjun & Purvi are nuts.. so I am not going there..sacrifice on top of sacrifice.. only they can deal with that kind of sacrifice, not you & me.
But what Ovi did to herself and Arjun is bad.. it is life long thing.. why would u get married like that..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kalapi

What did Ovi do, Vilasini...Did Ovi cover her face and had the sindoor put on her maang? No...
Was she pleading with or put a gun on Arjun's head to put that pinch??? No, absolutely not...
Did Ovi plead or beg Purvi to accept the deal???? No, not at all., rather Purvi planned in for 2 days and executed the whole wedding flawlessly...so, how did Ovi force that sindoor in her maang...
Arjun was in sane health and saene mind stood on his 2 feet, went through the 7 pheras...didn't see ovi dragging Arjun behind the pherar, did we now????
So, what did Ovi do...should we give what is due to all 3 characters...Ovi rather gave up on her deal and was making her way up to the heavens...so why are we blaming her for things, she never did...she only put forwrad a deal...no one was forced by either underhand tactics or a gun to accept...the rest of what happened was done by Purvi and Arjun alone...come on...shouldn't we be fair to this fictional characters...



Oh Kalapi..Do you really believe Ovi was making her way to the heavens !! Based on what, her word !! Yes, she just put forward a deal but how well... and so underhanded knowing Purvi's weakness..it was a master piece action.. Nothing that a person who is on the verge of suicide, if authentic, can do !! Yes, I agree.. Arjun and Purvi didnt have to go through.. But, they did..for they are fools in their own way.. But, She definitely played all her hands very well... Please dont make her out to be the innocent party in all this. She is the MAIN catalyst for this disaster.. even though in the end it was Arjun and Purvi are to blame...

Edited by jdronamraju - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: vgiri

Kalapi, Do you think a girl with some self-respect do what she did to HERSELF..put a deal in front of Purvi, and when Purvi accepted the deal and gave up Arjun.. Arjun with sane mind kept looking at PURVI the whole time and married OVI.. look at it from OVI;s side.. if she wanted a genuine marriage, wouldn't she be explaining things to Arjun and married him when he is calm.

Arjun & Purvi are nuts.. so I am not going there..sacrifice on top of sacrifice.. only they can deal with that kind of sacrifice, not you & me.
But what Ovi did to herself and Arjun is bad.. it is life long thing.. why would u get married like that..

Vilasini...self respect is extremely subjective, what is self respect to one isn't to another...can give many real life examples...for Ovi, her love for Arjun goes beyond her self respect...btw, where is Arjun's self respect now, when he is running a married man after a girl, who neatly packed and sold him, he was 2 timing before and 2 timing now...where is his self respect now???

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