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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

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Posted: 13 years ago

#51

Originally posted by: Kalapi
Varsha...please do write...we need to see the other side of the coin too😃

Are Yaar this dino got tired...Its like first love, first thoughts are most beautiful and can never be replaced...They are not coming back...

But If I can recall my post I will do it again...Right now just posted on KC so drained out 😆

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pari87

@pari87

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#52

Originally posted by: ashvik_lover
i did not mean to offend anyone but it was my view and if i did offend anyone please forgive me

if savita was not exposed, do you think ovi would've still accepted archana full heartedly???
the only reason ovi accepted archan was becoz she would get arjun(b4 the truth came out) like archana said PURVI SACRIFCIED EVERYTHING AND OVI GOT EVERYTHING BUT STILL HAS NOTHING AND IS UNHAPPY??? OVI ONLY ABOUT GETTING ARJU BUT SHE CANT FORCE HIM TO HAVE A SUHAAGRAAT WITH HER OR TO CONSUMMATE THEIR UNPAVITRA MARRIAGE OR TO GIVE HER A CHILD OR TO MAKE HER PREGNANT SO SHE COULD CONCIEVE HIS CHILD
BU THE CHILD CANNOT BE TERMED AS A SIGN OF LOVE BUT I WOULD TERM THE CHILD AS A SIGN OF FORCE BY IT'S MOTHER ... BECOZ THE MOTHER FORCED THE FATHER TO GET HER PREGNANT AND THE FATHER DID NOT GET HER PREGNANT BY HIS OWN WILL...

PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR MY USE OF LANGUAGE

and in india force marriage or arranged marriage is like a usual thing as india parnets think of their daughters as burdens so im sure for ekta, our views dont hold any importance

all this only happens in india

dont worry im not criticising india or people from india but im telling you truth of india which was telecasted internationally on television and which shown in hindi(bollywood) movies...

once again pleas for give me for offending any one or their beliefs etc😊

hi :)

Ofcourse you have your own beliefs about ARVI and purvi in general and I may not agree with the whole thing. But my only point of contention in this is @bold.

Wife can force whatever the hell she wants, but is the husband a bobo doll that he cannot stand up for his wants or needs? Ovi is not going to bind him or gag him into doing anything. And if he ultimately gives in to her demands like he did with Purvi, I must say, I will judge this Arjun to be very shallow indeed. "Father did not get her pregnant by his own will" is a super wrong statement. I mean how can you "force" someone into something like that? If he gets drunk and loses self-control, that is seriously HIS FAULT and not the wife's.

I don't like Ovi either, but to blame her for EVERYTHING is not right. Ultimately, she only put forward her deal, it was Mahaanta devi jr who agreed, which again if it's fine according to you because of the mother happiness angle, it's cool but ARJUN went into this knowingly and simply being a senseless lovesick puppy following the orders of his Purvi. Same way, if he gives in, to ovi, it is HIS fault equally. Not just Ovi's.

Just my POV, not meaning to offend anyone :)😊

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dhiku

@dhiku

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Posted: 13 years ago

#53

I totally agree with mysterygurl1427 !!!.

A marriage based on lies, then even if it is love or arranged marriage cannot be a successful marriage. What is most important for any marriage to work is trust,mutual respect, good wavelengths and love comes from all these things.

This marriage is glorifying manipulation and suicide. It is teaching the young generation that instead of figuring out the difference between good and bad things, just tell someone that you are going to the kitchen and then attempt suicide…and you will get what you want…

Only cowards attempt or commit suicide…It takes great courage to live a good life inspite of all adversities..

If any of our daughters, friends, sisters, etc attempt anything like Ovi, will we not tell her flatly that she is wrong and doing a mistake or will we tell her that Congrats!!...you achieved everything in life and make sure that your marriage works.

Also, as I had said in the previous post, agreed Purvi did a mistake…But is was a selfless one.

Consider the scenario where Arjun-Purvi had got married and Ovi had commited suicide. Who would have been happy with the marriage!!...Even Arjun –Purvi would have had to bear the guilt throughout their life…

Technically speaking I am at a loss to understand how 19 year girls can even think of such a level of manipulation…unless they have nothing to do..

The girls that I have seen in the 21^st century are very ambitious, thinking about their careers and future, working hard to build a life for themselves.

With education comes wisdom which most of the females in this serial seem to be lacking…

But this is Ekta's world!!... I am just glad that I am not one of the females in this serial or in Ekta's world.

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 13 years ago

#54

This serial is glorifying manipulation and suicide ?

Or is it glorifying 'love' over marraige ? A 3 month old affair cannot be forgotten as it is eternal love in a day and age when break ups r rampant .

Frankly speaking I am indifferent to this triangle and am not on Ovi's side although i do see things from her POV too but i would love to ask 2 questions

If suicide should be dealt with toughly why did Arjun Purvi not reject this as a team and tell Ovi that go and do suicide if u want u spoilt girl we will marry whatever the case ?

Is 'tough love' only Archana's weapon ...she had gone to invite the Deshmukhs brandishing ARVI's wedding card under Ovi's nose with this excuse ...that 'tough love' will make her accept the truth earlier ...or can someone else who is in love use it too ...like Ovi ...who got Arjun back like a cat and decided to win him back later but to get him back she used tough tactics and played hardball ?

This serial has long back gone beyond right and wrong .

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Piya

@piya2025

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Posted: 13 years ago

#55

I understand ur POV & Agree to some extent :

A marriage not some gudde-giddiyon ka khel,True.
Its a family affair..True
but
what makes it bond "2" family if because of whom they bonded,those two themselves are not bonding well?

Marriage is a big thing.Be it love or arrange..In arrange marriage we dont know the other person well,so we eventually fall in love by knowing them gradually but here Arjun had known Ovi almost all his life yet he didn't fall for her then just coz he had to marry her (For Purvi's sake)how can we say he need to accept her n move on? Is moving on that simple? That too from a life you wished to live? from someone who loves u a lot n you know it & from someone whom u love? No,It ain't that simple.

All his life inspite of knowing Ovi he couldn't love her n she was nothing but just a friend to him,He never believed in love till Purvi happened to him.
I wont even say Ovi loves Arjun..She is just in a huge obsession which she calls love..You can blame her n @ the same time you cant (Read-Im just talking about her Love philosophy,Not the wrong doings) when you get to know that you goona get married to this particular guy, in your childhood & you being friends with him since then,one surely start living in that dream but just to save that dream you can't expect the other person to do the stuff which his heart dont allow him to do.Afterall he didn't dreamt the same.It was all his dad's decision 1st & later he,too didn't want a force marriage for his son.

& about Purvi- What you think,It was easy for her? U say noone forced her? wasn't it Ovi who had a 'give Arjun n I'll also take Aai 'deal with her?
God forbid but any child who is orphan & got into such situation what else you expect him/her to do? Purvi's action justified here..

Where Arjun is the one @ loss.He did so much to get the love of his life in his life but before Purvi's pledged he had to bent down coz he understood what she was going through n how much Archana means to her but that doesn't mean he meant any less to her.It's just about "mother" & he knows it well.He got married to her but accepting Ovi or not that only him to decide.

Yes,Ovi might not doing anything wrong to his family but what she already did u still think she needs to add more into the list?

The guy,still living in the same roof with the girl who literary blackmailed n got him..& the funny thing is after knwong that (Parents) didn't even gave two hoots about it..If I were in Ovi's parents place I 'd have given her atleast 2 tight slap 1st n then handing her over to her own fate (Leting Arjun deal with it)but alas!The parents are romancing themselves lol (Not that I say roll tears all the time but thinking about Purvi's pain n what the girl has done n why n asking few question,much needed one,wont hurt their "affaction capacity for their own kids"

Arrange marriage can be taken forward if it has been done forcefully by the parents ,in that situation u can't blame any of the partner but u have to understand n move on with passing time(Passing time).

But in this case all know who has caused the forced marriage n coz of what it took place n how,so expecting the person to move on isn't it too much to ask for? & I find it very mean.

I have not done any PH.d on LM or AM or relationship n didn't write so much in favor of any particular character or jodi (If anyone think I favor more) but the stuff is-It's visible whats right n whats wrong..It's just not limited to the word " Marriage" Or the family affair stuff,Marriage happen in life but a marriage can't takeover a life.

A magalsutra & a pinch of sindur are valuable but its valueless if it doesn't even matter to one n one got it by sheer cheating.It may earn you a name or ur relationship but don't give you the rights or bring love along.

& If physical torture is a torture then mental / emotional torture are too ..

This was how I look upon this issue.Like you had ur POV,this was mine.

Thanks..

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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

Stunner

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Posted: 13 years ago

#56

OKIE Here I am with my dinosaur perspective on marriage or LOVE

Kalapi you made fabulous post on page 6. Kools I love your dinosaur approach I think we 3 have mostly in common...

Marriages are for ever unless there is Abuse - Domestic violence involved..

A 3 month Deep-Divine & Genuine LOVE followed by marriage is up for same battle or situation as Arranged marriage..

3 month love can be concluded as an infatuation or attraction...

After those 3 months or 2 yrs of love affair for indians who are not living together prior to marriage all start out at the same place like Arranged marriage..

Be it LOVE or Arranged marriage 2 idendities have to learn to live with each other. Foundation of a good marriage or a relationship to survive is Respect, Trust, Communication, Patience and Loyalty. All those things would bring LOVE into the marriage..Deep sense of care for the other person one feels when they have those basic requirements of marriage...

The physical attribute - Sex adds to the marriage as it is integral part of marriage but not the most important thing...As it is said it loses the charm or holds for so long...After that love-care takes over to make a marriage work...I am not saying that Sex dies down completely...It still is imp..

Marriage is WIP Work In Progress...Initial euphoria of whatever diminishes and the deep care for the other person develops...All the ups and downs of marrige, living together, with ILs, having children, providing for there education, day to day things is not easy and that is where the communication helps...When u go thru all that together as a one unity you have succeeded in your marriage...And doing it all with love and respect brings u even that much closer.

This is possible in Ovi-Arjun's marriage...They were very good friends at one time. Right now he is angry at himself which will also subside one day. They both can work on it together to have a loving, respectful good marriage..

There is no guarantee that Arjun-Purvi's 3 month love affair into marriage will be successful as they have known each other for 5 months but closely as loving couple for 2 1/2 months...Is this enough time to put a guarantee that it will be successful one and strong marriage..

All marriages have a potential to work out or fail...It is upto the two to make it or break it...No matter how much PR they claim but at the end of the day if they cant trust, respect and let the other person know the problems or how much they care and appreciate them than the marriage is no good..😳

Yes some marriages do break up after 25, 30 or 40 yrs of time..Why? The couple does not grow up individually at the same time together...They completely grow apart. and it becomes unbearable for them to stay together...So I am OK with that ...Usually those marriages were over long back but they prolly stayed together for kids sake 😳❓

I have no favorites or in support of Ovi or Purvi or Arjun. Although I can support the situation which is happening on the show itself..

I do understand younger generation as I have been there and done that so writing with that experience..Trust me I do know how it feels...😃

Just as Kools said Love marriages have highter % of divorce in western countries, Arranged marriages have higheer % of working out& being successful marriages in India. Hope my dinosaur approach is something atleast worth 2 cents 😃

Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago

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Piya

@piya2025

Stunner

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Posted: 13 years ago

#57

Oh! & the thing I forget to add,Arjun doesn't need to go back to Purvi but at the same time he doesn't really need to be in a relationship which eventually 'd take none of them anywhere.
Surely,Its a world of permanent break-ups if not love but few Love story do survive overcoming all ODDS.but heck! that's real life & its a moral/ethic n don't know what-what less Ekta show,So this much sense actually count as a lot.;)

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Kalapi

@Kalapi

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Posted: 13 years ago

#58

It is wrong to say that people who commit suicides are cowards...that idea and philosophy really does belong to the era of the Dinosaurs...

Modern science says that people who commit unplanned suicide as was shown results from severe despair and depression. Depression is a serious disease that pharma companies are trying to capture the market...why?? simply because the number of people affected by the disease...so Ovi went through a severe depression that was because of all Arjun did to her and how Archana, the mom treated her...she needed a lot of care and understanding that was totally lacking towards her as shown to us...

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Dabulls23

@Dabulls23

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Posted: 13 years ago

#59

Originally posted by: Kalapi

It is wrong to say that people who commit suicides are cowards'that idea and philosophy really does belong to the era of the Dinosaurs'

Modern science says that people who commit unplanned suicide as was shown results from severe despair and depression. Depression is a serious disease that pharma companies are trying to capture the market'why because the number of people affected by the disease'.so Ovi went through a severe depression that was because of all Arjun did to her and how Archana, the mom treated her'.

To that I would like to add "Manav the dad allowed Archana the mother and Sulo the MIL to do it"

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koolsadhu1000

@koolsadhu1000

Stunner

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Posted: 13 years ago

#60

Fab post Varsha ...I want to add but busy in ganpati preparations

Kalapi we dinos r so alike ...i wanted to comment on the suicide thingie ...thank u for commenting

I feel a deep sympathy for anyone attempting suicide as it denotes severe mental pain .

The pain is so unbearable that one prefers losing life than bearing it .

This does not mean giving in to the person who attempts suicide demands .

It means understanding him or her and changing your approach .

Archana and Sulochana behaved all wrong and if I was Manav i would speak very harshy to her as I would believe that their approach led to her depression .

It is as wrong as pronouncing Varsha cured .

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