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Posted: 13 years ago
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Unfortunately for us Arch, it seems in order to make Soham acceptable, they will make Purvi completely delusional and will run ArVi under the big truck/bus/war tank...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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You may be right Ash...as for myself I will be offering up fervent prayers to the powers that be that if they do decide to go this route...that they somehow manage to find a way for Purvi to reveal that she came to find out he is her brother and had promised to keep it quiet. This is not as far-fetched as it seems...the CVs are perfectly capable of coming up with things that have no logic, reason, or basis...incorporating memories/dialogues that did not happen and do not exist...and conveniently erasing dialogues that were said as if they never happened. We would still be hard-pressed to understand why she would keep it from Arjun regardless...but the CVs will definitely come up with some misguided dumb reason as to why it was necessary to keep it from him.
I hope that if this is the way they are planning to go, they at least have the sense/decency to incorporate this as well to soften the blow...otherwise I dont see how their relationship can ever get past this...they would have to do another 10-18 year leap...because that much time would have to pass for the bitterness of such a betrayal to subside somewhat.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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According to the recent SBS segment there is a confrontation of Archu and Vishnu...Archu says to him that he is more stubborn than ner but she will do everything to get justice for her daughter Purvi..Als Manav mentioned in the precap that he is not going to leave Vishnu for kidnapping his daughter.
So Arman are against Vishnu and hell bent in getting him punishment..SBS showed a court scenario where ARchu-Vishnu/Soham confrontation takes place..
Arman are determined to go against odds and get Vishnu n gang punished..
Dont know what will Purvi do here...But Arman are on verge of getting Vishnu behind bars..
I think Vishnu will end up in the jail after which truth will be revealed about Soham coz Anki mentioned that the truth about Soham will not come a bit later meaning its going to take some time for Soham identity to be revealed.
But one thing ,the current hate and anger they have against Vishnu,the day they come to know the truth they will be the most heart-broken and lost..Worst days for Arman are on the way...Such a sad situation ,I can hope no parents have to face such hardships...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shyamala,
I am gonna say this here as we dont have another thread to vent on..:)
After today's episode, we have so many tracks around that they boggle my mind. they have made a chudwa out of it, I tell u..😊
1. Punni opened an avenue for an impending disaster by inviting them to some kewar/kewal whatever it is called..Arjun and Purvi together... sure for something big to happen..pre-planned... Archana has gone totally bonkers believing in Punni so easily. To give some credit where it is due, atleast Sulo was suspiscious...
2. Baalan got a new gun, that vishnu lalla admires so obviously. That has to be put to use at some point, some place...
3. Archana doesnt have money for the wedding..wants to do it well at every cost..a divorce will get her money...probably she will agree for that sake or make some demand..who knows..
4. Purvi swears she will end the divorce before she and Arjun get married... That is the best caveat of all.
5. court scene tomorrow. got to see what Ms. Purvi gonna do..
6. Is Varsha going talk to Purvi, who knows
7. where are the Deshmukh kids, laapathaa for the past few days. A too quite CC is also very dangerous.. or the CV's have decided to let her lay low for a while?
8. Of all, we are still left with the Stockholm Syndrome to deal with, which is our main grouch...
In all this Deshmukh drama, our poor Arjun is in his own world blissfully planning for the wedding..feel bad for the boy...(..I cant even enjoy these little titbits anymore...
Not panicking at all, I am going to be patient, but they are sure testing it... 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

conclusion from all this is that Vishnu is an "achcha bachcha" who listens to his aai, and thus that he is "one of us".

The Stockholm Syndrome: Archana's somewhat incoherent speech, accusing Vishns mother of having failed to instill the proper sanskaars in him when he was young, falls on deaf ears. Purvi, brushing Archana's word aside with the comment that she does not know what kind of upbringing his mother had given him, ends with the breathtaking statement that regardless of that, there are, in Vishnu, the kind of sanskaars that keep from doing anything galat (wrong).

Conclusions: What should we, the viewers and well wishers of Arjun-Purvi, make of all this? Well, all these convoluted and bizarre goings on seem, to me, to be a rather disturbing development. It is clear that the CVs are planning to do a Valmiki on Vishnu and metamorphosise him into an achcha bachcha as fast as they can. They have made a beginning by bringing the maa ka pujari image of Vishnu up front and centre, but this is obviously not enough, given that Varsha comes in very low in the PR popularity stakes.

Parallels with PR I: This brings me to the constant parallels between PR I and PR II. These are too many to be listed out here, and in any case, you all know them by heart. Some time ago, I had written that there was no possibility of creating a conflict between Arjun and Purvi. Perhaps I was wrong about that; I often am in second guessing the CVs.

Iwould remind you of the chawl demolition issue, which was the real cause for the Manav-Archana relationship, time-tested and of so many years standing, hitting the rocks. The loss of Soham was only the final nail in the coffin, it was not the sole or the major cause of the break. Archana had then let Manav down, just when he needed her the most, for the sake of the chawl residents, who had framed him in a false chawl demolition case. (For a detailed run down of that disaster, please see my post in the When did Archana support Manav? thread).

Now Purvi might be letting Arjun down by supporting the man who had put his life and that of Manav in danger. How then might Arjun react?

The above might seem farfetched, and I naturally do not know if this dismal prediction will come true. In fact I devoutly hope it does not. But the way in which Purvi's character is being bent out of shape does not augur well for the future. In any case, I never believed that Arjun and Purvi would get married so easily in just 10 days. Then where would PR go? If their marriage is to be stymied, the rumour that Vishnu would be the cause of that happening might come true, but not in the way that we would have imagined it. If the plot develops as surmised above, this might well be the CVs' idea of a 'surprise' twist!

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Hi Shyamala Nice post...I agree on abv with you completely..
My comment : The Fruit does not fall too far from the tree...Purvi the fruit and Archana the tree..😳
I have said it over and over abt ArMan's marriage these 2 grave events in red destroyed their marriage..What Savita did was nothing compared to that...Does not mean she is off the hook..
@ underlined: It is not farfetched but completely possible..This is how CVs destroy characters...Purvi has changed so much since falling in love with Arjun...The obnoxious and rude Purvi is now sanskari and proper with arjun..
Purvi is going to be shown in a greater light being the most sanskari girl who can rehab even goon Vishnu...Knowing or not knowing Vishnu is Soham and Archana's first born..This is what Viewers like about PR...So they love Archana and will love Purvi for the same idiotic reasonings.😳
NEways that is my view on this subject..
Edited by Dabulls23 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanks Susmita, but I am not happy with the conclusion I have been pushed into. It is all confusing and depressing.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: smilegirl

"Just Because" they want to show Vishnu in a good light...reason being brought up by those people, they are tarnishing the Purvi character now :(

We would need a lot of Patience I guess in the future track :(
Beautiful analysis as always Shymalaji...loved reading it...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jdronamraju

Shyamala,

I am gonna say this here as we dont have another thread to vent on..:)
After today's episode, we have so many tracks around that they boggle my mind. they have made a chudwa out of it, I tell u..😊
1. Punni opened an avenue for an impending disaster by inviting them to some kewar/kewal whatever it is called..Arjun and Purvi together... sure for something big to happen..pre-planned... Archana has gone totally bonkers believing in Punni so easily. To give some credit where it is due, atleast Sulo was suspiscious...
2. Baalan got a new gun, that vishnu lalla admires so obviously. That has to be put to use at some point, some place...
3. Archana doesnt have money for the wedding..wants to do it well at every cost..a divorce will get her money...probably she will agree for that sake or make some demand..who knows..
4. Purvi swears she will end the divorce before she and Arjun get married... That is the best caveat of all.
5. court scene tomorrow. got to see what Ms. Purvi gonna do..
6. Is Varsha going talk to Purvi, who knows
7. where are the Deshmukh kids, laapathaa for the past few days. A too quite CC is also very dangerous.. or the CV's have decided to let her lay low for a while?
8. Of all, we are still left with the Stockholm Syndrome to deal with, which is our main grouch...
In all this Deshmukh drama, our poor Arjun is in his own world blissfully planning for the wedding..feel bad for the boy...(..I cant even enjoy these little titbits anymore...
Not panicking at all, I am going to be patient, but they are sure testing it... 😊


I dont think Archu will ever ask for money from her divorce coz that is who she is.Of course Manav will give her more than she can imagine but even if she takes it she wont ever use it.coz that is Archu for you...Money is never a factor for her..She will do something but will never use the money..She has in fact not used the money once Money gave for Chawl renovation..She took it coz Manav gave it but she wont use it .Hence she did not even break the FDS she has more her other 2 daughters..Sulo does not understand anything about Archu which is the props..She is one of the main reasons for Archu's life being in the distraught state it is now..
Archu will figure out in her own way to get the money for the wedding.And yes the major props for Archu is she is a emotional fool and too naive..And hence her life is in such a state..She is too good of a soul to be true and thats a props..She will never budge on that for sure..All these traits she has learnt more from Manav and hence she loves Manav to the core till today and hence we Arman fans are so pissed in seeing in the complete change of characterization in Manav.
Based on SBS segment Arman will try their best to get Vishnu punished..Will Purvi do something suicidal here ,I hope not..She is well educated and I hope instead of taking drastic steps,she consults Arjun or at least her Aai or someone.
Purvi trying to stop divorce is interesting..I am not sure how but I hope she be suspicious of Punni and her intentions before falling for her very badly..But of course like mother like daughter so guess Purvi might fall in Punni's trap but hope she is a bit careful..Stay away from Punni even if she is focused on Arman divorce ,if it keeps her away from Punni ,I think its better.
Edited by Jaishankar - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thank you for all your time an effort in the post Shyamala Aunty. A very sagacious summation of the current circus acts. ⭐️
I was very disappointed in Purvi's dialogues yesterday with regards to her 'feelings' about 'Valmiki' Vishnu. It irked me so much I didn't even watch the show when I got home last evening. I can't for the life of me understand why the CVs would make such a blunder of epic proportions. Kidnapping is not something to be taken lightly and should not be canvassed as a minor offense.
I agree with you Arch. It's Purvi's turn in the hot seat and she will be put thorugh many trials by fire. She really is going to be made to look like the scapegoat for the sake of humanity. To quote Abhi, "YUCK 🤢" 🤣
There are many streams now flowing into one river but I don't think the CVs have thought about the torrential currents (the audience)
Yes, they want to give us a good story - something we've never expected but in their zeal to produce higher TRPs they are failing to UNDERSTAND their audience.
We don't want our jodi's relationship to be sullied! I am not so patient a fan to wait for three years to have their misgivings about each other sorted out while Purvi's tears could solve the drought problem in Africa and Arjun has to go to the dentist to unclench his jaw from scowling at her.
So here's my addition to Janhvi's plea request -
Dear CVs,
We, the people 😆, are savvy enough to distinguish between simple follies and complete lunacy.
Once the trust is gone, there is no amount of slap-stick dalogue that can repair this rishta. We are smarter this time around and will not stand for that nonsense twice.
"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time" Abraham Lincoln
Please give your audience some credit and smarten up your scripts not dumb them down.
It will bode well for the longevity of this show and a continual fan base.
Please get it RIGHT this time around!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Archana,

Thanks. But I am not happy with where I arrived at the end of all that patient analysis of the data.

@blue.
It is not that I think that the feelings that Purvi is developing for Vishnu have the slightest tinge of the romantic. It is rather some sort of do-gooding streak, seeking to reform a person and bring him back to becoming 'one like us' as a sort of moral trophy, like the Salvation Army or AA exhibiting a reformed sinner/alcoholic. It is very difficult for us to understand it, but it is the only explanation possible, for we have, a priori , to exclude her falling in love with Vishnu. That is totally impossible.

Because of this streak, Purvi sees in Vishnu qualities that she conjures up out of airy nothing. Then, as inkpen said above, she develops selective amnesia about all that he said which will NOT fit into the picture of him as a poor deluded soul, that she is building up for herself and for those whom she seeks to convert, like Archana.

Some inner voice probably warns her that Arjun is not a likely candidate for 'seeing the light' about Vishnu, so she hides her ideas from him. But then she will, if she really wants to reform Vishnu, have to DO something at some point, and then Arjun will naturally come up against that out of the blue. Even if Arjun has full faith in Purvi's love for him and does not suspect her of falling for Vishnu a la Patty Hearst - and I am sure he will not - he will not accept her empathising with Vishnu to any degree.

@red.
If they want to go down this route, they should have showed Purvi learning the truth BEFORE she said all that to Archana. I do not see how this will work out post facto. I would definitely prefer that to Purvi supporting Vishnu out of pure do-gooding.

All in all, not too promising, whichever way you look at it. And as Jyothi was lamenting on her Badhaai ho! thread, the Arjun-Purvi scenes these days are as flat as a pancake, and taste like sawdust. We were much better off in their days of conflict.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: archverma10

Very well written and said Shyamala, and I had the same misgivings myself. I could not believe my ears when I heard what Purvi said and even commented on a topic (I think someone had asked about Arjun-Ovi marriage, and I pointed out exactly this...this itself will lead to very big misunderstandings between Arjun and Purvi).

And the CVs track record in character assasination. As they did to Arjun...now it is Purvi in the hot seat. I am really really hoping someone from the team reads your analysis and decides not to go this route. A delay in the marriage is fine...but separation will be very tough and that too because of this. THE only way to salvage this for Arjun will be if becomes known that somehow Purvi gets to know who Soham really is. Either by overhearing Varsha talking to herself or something----we will take anything. But what you have outlined is so dreadful I am far more scared of this than any other separation reason to be frank. I could even handle either one of them being blackmailed somehow into having to foresake the other...but Purvi developing feelings for Vishnu is definitely going to rock the foundation of this relationship for sure as Jyothi puts it. Not even the Arjun/Ovi track was this bad because Ovi was his childhood friend, and the problem arose from the committment he made before he met Purvi.
I hope and pray that someone from the PR team reads your post and our reactions here...and realizes that if they go this route it will be the end of ARVI. Even if Arjun somehow gets past this kind of betrayal, I doubt we would be able to. At least for myself...in my mind...I am just unable to justify her developing any kind of sympathy for the man who shot the love of her life...who she professes to love deeply..twice---unless of course she somehow gets ahold of the truth and is then sworn to secrecy about it. Thats the only way to salvage this type of track----otherwise her character in this case really will be damaged beyond repair...and to be honest with you, if they assasinate her character to this extent we certainly may be better off with an Arjun-Ovi marriage instead. At least she truly does love him deeply...and I cannot see Ovi sympathizing with someone who shot Arjun!!!

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@red. That is IT, Laurie. The problem is that having made Vishnu a serial kidnapper who relishes his career, and having now to whitewash him in great haste, the CVs see this trivialisation of a very serious crime as the only way out. So Purvi is made to mouth these insane lines and we are climbing the wall.

I never thought the day would come when I would welcome a Vishnu scene, but I did just that when the Vinod-Manjusha-Punni-Archana combo was driving me nuts. The way he caresses the gun is a class act . It speaks to him in the language of violence, and he loves it. Pure film noir character, and very well done. He does not belong in this milk and water serial at all, he should be in an Anurag Kashyap film , like The Gangs of Wasseypur, with Manoj Bajpayee for company.

Balan was also in form, and it was interesting to see him going easy on Jhumri after sighting Vishnu's agonised face when he is abusing her; he is now conscious of lines not to be crossed with his Lalla. I liked the seasoned manner in which he advises Vishnu to avoid any traps the SP (they keep calling him daroga, which is really a constable, poor Sameer Rane!) might set for him, to provoke him into doing something for which he can be arrested again on a fresh charge. That scene restored my mood, soured after having to look at Archana spouting her usual lines about pyaar, rishtas and patching up.

I wonder where Vishnu is going to use that ghoda, rejoicing its smooth action like makkhan (butter), and on whom.

As for Arjun-Purvi, God help them (and us), for the CVs don't look like doing so.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: Axiom

Thank you for all your time an effort in the post Shyamala Aunty. A very sagacious summation of the current circus acts. ⭐️

I was very disappointed in Purvi's dialogues yesterday with regards to her 'feelings' about 'Valmiki' Vishnu. It irked me so much I didn't even watch the show when I got home last evening. I can't for the life of me understand why the CVs would make such a blunder of epic proportions. Kidnapping is not something to be taken lightly and should not be canvassed as a minor offense.
I agree with you Arch. It's Purvi's turn in the hot seat and she will be put thorugh many trials by fire. She really is going to be made to look like the scapegoat for the sake of humanity. To quote Abhi, "YUCK 🤢" 🤣
There are many streams now flowing into one river but I don't think the CVs have thought about the torrential currents (the audience)
Yes, they want to give us a good story - something we've never expected but in their zeal to produce higher TRPs they are failing to UNDERSTAND their audience.
We don't want our jodi's relationship to be sullied! I am not so patient a fan to wait for three years to have their misgivings about each other sorted out while Purvi's tears could solve the drought problem in Africa and Arjun has to go to the dentist to unclench his jaw from scowling at her.
So here's my addition to Janhvi's plea request -
Dear CVs,
We, the people 😆, are savvy enough to distinguish between simple follies and complete lunacy.
Once the trust is gone, there is no amount of slap-stick dalogue that can repair this rishta. We are smarter this time around and will not stand for that nonsense twice.
"You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time" Abraham Lincoln
Please give your audience some credit and smarten up your scripts not dumb them down.
It will bode well for the longevity of this show and a continual fan base.
Please get it RIGHT this time around!

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