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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: jdronamraju
Jai,
But, if that is the case, OK. But, why does a 50+ yr old guy sound so apologetic when he talks to his mother about it. When he was younger, it is understandable. But, it looks really strange for a guy of his age not to be able to stand up to his mother and justify his actions with conviction. It is very hard for me to digest that.

That is the props Jyothi with these 2..Here Savita ,there Sulo these 2 Aaji's have always had full control of their children (Manav and Archu respectively,both are puppets to be precise right from the start,a life for them has never exited ,its always been family and never been about them) and both are equally responsible for their children's distraught state..For Arman their family and responsibility comes first than themselves..Who in the right frame of mind would put sindoor in a woman's forehead (Shravani) just coz his Aai (Savita) told to do so (illegally of course) with the full consent of Archu in the back watching it and this was done coz Arman had decided to give up their relationship willingly for Shravani and her unborn child.there was so many simple solutions for Shravani but they choose this coz Senior Sachu died making Shravani pregnant and it was Manav's responsibility to take care of his responsibility Even God would be out of words to describe these 2 sacrificial lambs. Like Manav,have you seen Archu stand up against her Aai Sulo...

Savita is more verbose but Sulo does attacks are silent ones which is even more painful like going to the D's to invite them for Arvi's engagement when a mere phone call to Manav or Damo was suffice (without even consulting or calling Archu once as she was there at D's)..There are many many such instances of Sulo just like Savita which has caused destruction in Archu's life..

These 2 will never learn Jyothi and hence they are in this state..The day these 2 realize that there is a life for themselves then only something can happen...Dont know whether such a situation will ever come..

These 2 are perfect example of reasons why not to sacrifice everything ,even your relationship for others coz they have failed to realize no body gives a damn and they end in the loosing end always.

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jdronamraju

@jdronamraju

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Posted: 13 years ago

#42

Originally posted by: Ashlaika
Jyothi...

I read ur post and I end up 🤣. Lalla and his career crisis!!! 🤣

Anyway... I wished they had shown Purvi a bit sceptical when going to this Kevlan instead of all out trusting. That would have been more bearable, as Purvi is "supposed" to be intelligent.

THANK GOD Arjun still retains his senses and knowledge. I guess CVs cant make them both gullible at the same time... they have to take turns now. lol.

Ovi - Punni tag team just smells TROUBLE!!! (In all caps and bold) :-).

Jyothi, CC 1 and CC 2 is kind of a tongue twister... we may get confused. how bout CW for Punni. C is the same... 20 stars for whoever guesses what W means. 😆.

The kidnapping drained Purvi of any intelligence left. It was probably something her long-lost brother fed her there. First, it was the SS, now this Mahaan crap..quoting rituals, rishtas whatever... this Arjun, if he doesnt stand firm with her will become a joru ka gulaam for sure... the way he is going :)...

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#43

Yes, but Jai, what a criminal waste of love! It is the failure of the scriptwriters. If you want tragedy and separation, you can have them, for there are tragedies and separations galore in real life. They do not have to be the result of consistent folly, do they?

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Jaishankar

That is Manav and Archu for you..They are 2 emotional fools who always keep others over themselves,others happiness is more important to them than their life and histroy has shown this fact..Guess Manav wanted to help her and yes it was foolish to do so by when his daughter Ovi wont like it a bit or any of the D's but thats the guy for you..He is ready to put his life @ risk for a girl who he came to know that its his wife adopted daughter and the very reason he feels that special connection with Purvi is that he sees the shadow of Archu in her .No matter what the situation and where they might be,when either Manav or Archu might be trouble they will always come running to help each other and that's what they are and their life histroy..
Circumstances may have always split them apart but destiny keeps them connected through their souls and its a soul - soul connection which can never be erased and hence Arman's love for each other will always there deep inside them but they cannot show it coz they are too good of human beings to be selfish and think of themselves alone and too foolish to not to think of themselves and put others and their happiness above themselves which is the very reason their life is such a distraught state..

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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: sashashyam
Yes, but Jai, what a criminal waste of love! It is the failure of the scriptwriters. If you want tragedy and separation, you can have them, for there are tragedies and separations galore in real life. They do not have to be the result of consistent folly, do they?

Shyamala

Exactly Shyamala..Really CV's have destroyed this wonderful love story between 2 middle class people to say that yes love is not just for the rich and it can happen to normal folks living in chawls of Mumbai between a car mechanic and a middle class simple girl..Damn they had to butcher it to this extent..Hence I keep saying saying these 2 are perfect example of waht can happen with you when you sacrifice your life and relationship for others.But yeah this is Ekta's show so cant expect anything and expect the unexpected..I am just trying to see some miniature positive hopes in them Shyamala for the good human beings they are..Guess this is the sacrifice I have to do for being a fan of this senseless show for 3 years 😆..

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Jaishankar

@Jaishankar

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Posted: 13 years ago

#45

Originally posted by: Jaishankar

Exactly Shyamala..Really CV's have destroyed this wonderful love story between 2 middle class people to say that yes love is not just for the rich and it can happen to normal folks living in chawls of Mumbai between a car mechanic and a middle class simple girl..Damn they had to butcher it to this extent..Hence I keep saying saying these 2 are perfect example of waht can happen with you when you sacrifice your life and relationship for others.But yeah this is Ekta's show so cant expect anything and expect the unexpected..I am just trying to see some miniature positive hopes in them Shyamala for the good human beings they are..Guess this is the sacrifice I have to do for being a fan of this senseless show for 3 years 😆..

Of-course for the gorgeous Anki I guess makes it a point for me to see it without breaking my head in my laptop 😆

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#46

My dear Mandy,

I have just finished luxuriating in the velvet touch of all that lavish praise, for which I do not know how to thank you adequately, and so I shall not even try. Now I am ready for serious business.

Yes, the Arjun-Purvi track is flat and dull now. I think the team that wrote the earlier scenes, the airport one, the rain sequences in the park and on the bridge, even the ones in his kholi, is not there any more. They could never be writing this pedestrian stuff, which is being shot with bad angles to match, from the back of the car for the last two. It is not Purvi whose behaviour is due to her having been bashed on the head, it is the CVs, and we are suffering the consequences.

The tone of the Arjun-Purvi scenes of late is what Victorian novelists would have called 'arch', a kind of fake coquetry that was thought proper in those days, Just listen once more to Purvi complaining about Arjun having said "Tumse shaadi karke hi chodoonga". It is plain silly and so affected.And you are right, Jyoti,that little girl voice of hers is becoming much of a muchness in these scenes. There is not an iota of tenderness or real warmth, or any realisation of what they have achieved in finally being together as a couple.

Purvi's rishta nibhana is so irritating that one wants to box her ears. She actually asks Arjun how he can talk like that about her cousin! And what is all this about abandoning one's ego to preserve rishtas? Where does the ego come into this? And is destroying a girl's reputation by circulating an MMS about her a galti? It is a crime under the IPC. But then, Purvi sees even kidnapping for ransom as a galti, so what is an MMS? I am now convinced that she deserves every bit of the disaster that awaits her.

The only thing I regret is that she will drag Arjun down along with her because of her folly. Perhaps he deserves it too, for letting her take him for granted. He was not consulted about this dinner, and he would have been perfectly within his rights to refuse to go there, and it would have been a salutary lesson for Purvi as well.

I have always felt that she never loved or loves him as much as he loves her; fair enough, for some women have all the luck. But that does not mean that she can drag him around to places against his will and without even asking him, and then disregard his feelings and his warnings in such a cavalier manner.

Compare this with the way in which Archana behaves with Manav, and you will see the difference. Those two, with all their faults, and the way in which Archana failed him when he needed her the most, love each other equally.

As for the essential ingredients of a touching love scene, Mandy, your list is a good one. But there can be other sorts that are just as heart-warming.Please take a look at my post describing some such in Jyothi's Badhaai Ho! thread. The scenes from that serial continue to be very, very good, and Arjun-Purvi these days are a distant second. It is not the fault of the actors; if such an AAA pair is wasted on such stale stuff, what else can one expect? But the end result is still BAD.

Shyamala

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Dear Shyamalaji,

Your post made me to watch PR again.Your beautiful analysis is the only sane thing about PR. I completely love it and the fragrance of your words lingers long and addictive:)this is what makes me to come back to this forum too. Thank you for your post.

We know a love track should contain conflict.Conflict in each love scene as the relationship between the pair progressed and built toward the crisis.( but the way Purvi is going it is completely either they are making - selective memory loss- rare side effect of head injuries when the victim loses certain parts of his/her memory- which Purvi never had or if they want to make the slapped of that goon so strong that equals side effect of head injuries ' we can understand because in PR world neither logic nor law can come in between) If they are going to show Purvi having early signs or warning of dementia that's totally a different case altogether.

In Praise of Rithvik & Asha :Rithvik made us feel the anguish of Purvi when he kissed her forehead Purvi jerked away from him as she was too shocked and felt the worst of worst.Rithvik made us feel every accelerated heartbeat, every nervous flutter, and every agonizing moment of uncertainty when Purvi left the office after the MMS incident.Who can speak volumes with her eyes and unspoken sorrows like Asha!

ARVI now -

It is almost like there is cut and paste scene from one track to another.They are also going down ArMaan's lane. There are so many repeated ones as far as I heard from many of the viewers here (though personally I haven't seen any of Armaan's tracks till now) there are just holding hands,same old dialogue.All of their earlier unique chemistry and beauty are just getting evaporated slowly and steadily. It is a dastak to the CV. The intensity disappeared somewhere along the way.

Dialogue is a wonderful tool in a love scene. A touch of teasing dialogue can dispel a woman's (or a man's) nervousness, a bit of tender dialogue can make an awkward moment less awkward, a whispered endearment can banish fear. Dialogue also helps the hint at an action without having to physically describe the action.We see now (starting with Purvi creating a gap)

They are trying to force the scene (Soham ' a la Valmiki in haste as you have pointed out at the expense of Purvi looking demented/delusion) They also have flushed out her experiences and intelligence.

The couple ARVI shouldn't be separated in a trivial manner.It would be the height of the moronic affair after all that Arjun and Purvi has gone through.Cheap separation is not call of the moment.We have witnessed one of the cheapest demand made already.

If they could avoid cliched phrases and euphemisms instead aim for variation and imaginative language, to beware of over-dramatization and overflowing with tears ' Maharashtra has enough problem with flood please don't create it more.

Humor could help PR too ( Rithvik is one of the best persons to enact witty scene and Asha compliments the humor Rithvik naturally have ' their off screen segments are great samples of that.

I still love Arvi and wish they could dig ARVI's treasure and realize how precious they are and that's what makes Pavitra Rishta. I wish they don't destroy the only hope,the only positive "Rista" in the name of twist and separation.

I know I might be just talking to myself or just hearing my own echo but I will continue with my plea as long as you continue to post here:)

Thank you for your sweet aroma here:)

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purethought

@purethought

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Posted: 13 years ago

#47

Originally posted by: sashashyam
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Yes, the Arjun-Purvi track is flat and dull now. I think the team that wrote the earlier scenes, the airport one, the rain sequences in the park and on the bridge, even the ones in his kholi, is not there any more. They could never be writing this pedestrian stuff, which is being shot with bad angles to match, from the back of the car for the last two. It is not Purvi whose behaviour is due to her having been bashed on the head, it is the CVs, and we are suffering the consequences.

The tone of the Arjun-Purvi scenes of late is what Victorian novelists would have called 'arch', a kind of fake coquetry that was thought proper in those days, Just listen once more to Purvi complaining about Arjun having said "Tumse shaadi karke hi chodoonga". It is plain silly and so affected.And you are right, Jyoti,that little girl voice of hers is becoming much of a muchness in these scenes. There is not an iota of tenderness or real warmth, or any realisation of what they have achieved in finally being together as a couple.

Purvi's rishta nibhana is so irritating that one wants to box her ears. She actually asks Arjun how he can talk like that about her cousin! And what is all this about abandoning one's ego to preserve rishtas? Where does the ego come into this?

Just wow for the above passages Shyamala Ji👏👏 ⭐️⭐️remarkable analysis and bang on with these few passages and some more.

Their scenes seem kind of forced lately ... and do not seem natural like they did before. Although I still enjoy the sight of them together, and only because it is Asha and Rithvik together onscreen. Purvi, who was once upon a time a very intelligent girl is shown arguing with Arjun, for speaking ill for Punni, who had once made an mms on her and circulated it. I mean, what do the CVs think the viewers are. This is not the Purvi I have known all along in the show. Purvi is backing her cousin, who had not once but on several occasions tried to cause harm to her.

And she says to Arjun ' how can you speak like this for Punni, she is my cousin'🤣

I was laughing when she said this and I also wanted to give her one tight slap. I was like ... this is not the Purvi I've known. The CVs sure know how to make mincemeat of erstwhile strong characters.

Trish

Edited by purethought - 13 years ago

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#48

Yes, Jyothi, you got that dead right. I never thought of the marriage expenses being covered by an advance alimony payment or divorce settlement. And how much of alimony? Many Indian women would be thrilled to receive such generous payments.

As for the CC, I cannot see how she can land up at the dinner; that would expose Punni's hand in it at once, for if she had not told Ovi about the dinner, how else would Ovi have known about it? Punni would not want to be caught out in that fashion so soon; she will need more time for her Grand Design.

Secondly, how are they to 'expose' Purvi to Arjun as a golddigger? It is non starter. It has to be something else, unless they want us to have a good laugh at Punni falling flat on her face once more, while the real threat comes from elsewhere, very likely Vishnu.

I have written enough about Purvi's stupidity to Mandy, so I shall desist here. Let us hope she does not put the coping stone on her other follies thus far by turning into a hostile witness in the court to save Vishnu, when the case comes up for hearing.

It is not that now, I presume, for Vishnu is not in the dock, but then again, what do such procedural details mean for the CVs? SP Sameer Rane's assurance to Manav makes it practically a dead cert that the case will NOT go their way. They have not called Purvi as a witness as yet, but she should be their prime witness!

Now, court cases start in the morning, around 10 am. Purvi and Arjun are going to Punni's for dinner. That should mean that the dinner was on the previous evening and the court scene is the next morning? Then why have they not yet shown us what happened at the dinner?

Vishnu is getting to be the episode stealer these days. This one was excellent, both for his glowering looks as he contemplates the blow to his reputation in kidnapping circles because of 2 big 'missions' gone awry, and later for his waving impudently at Manav and doing an even more impudent namaste to him. But why is Varsha dismayed at seeing Archana there? Surely she should have expected her to be present at the case concerning the kidnapping of her daughter?

Shyamala

PS: Though it is quite rare, bank officers might go to the home of a very important client to save his time, especially for big transactions.

Originally posted by: jdronamraju
Shyamala,
I wasnt too way off mark in my guessing on atleast a couple of points , was I ? 😊..
Manav is giving the money as pre-payment of alimony. Money is coming to Archana as part of divorce proceedings.. And yes, I was also worried about the silence from CC.

Now, we have two crazy chic's instead of one, getting together to cause havoc. They will probably try to protray Purvi as a gold digger. Right, that will fly well with Arjun !! Maybe something to do with the power of Attorney..Hmm..I think Ms.Ovi will walk in to this dinner with whatever is her findings or the BIG plan..Ms. Punni did know which buttons to push on Ovi,didnt she. very crafty of her. And this, CC I, goes off into her delusions again...God, why dont they show her with some thinking power...

Ms. Purvi all set to be Ms. Mahaan II. Mandy was right !! They have drained the intelligence out of her. Atleast, hurray for our Arjun baba. He has some intelligence still left. He just cannot believe that Punni can do an about turn suddenly. Come on, Ms.Purvi, wake up and smell the roses... Listen to Arjun for a change. She goes on and on trying to convince him to go. Looks like he is gonna go even reluctantly..What's with the car scenes now, Annoying...cant they just sit and talk somewhere..

OK, so far the SS (Stockholm Syndrome) hasnt raised its ugly head again yet. Got to wait and see how it goes in the court.

Manav-Archana: What a senseless question of him to ask why Archana is selling her jewellery? Doesnt he know there is a wedding soon? Another Mr.Mahaan, showing off his generosity in giving her the money in advance, ofcourse, as alimoney pre-payment. Savita is right in a way. How would it look to his daughter that he is giving money to the wedding that is so against her. He was all uppity with Arjun that he doesnt approve of the wedding, and on the other hand, he is financing it...... confused people, I tell u..

BTW, do bank officers in India really come home to do a money transfer? I wish we could have that here...😃.

Lalla is all worried about his kidnapping career now.. big time career crisis. !! Got him thinking..hmmm. 😃

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sashashyam

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Posted: 13 years ago

#49

I agree, Trish, and they do it without any warning, which is the worst.

As for Arjun, he should not do everything Purvi wants like a besotted sheep. Does the chap have a headpiece or not?

Shyamala

Originally posted by: purethought
Just wow for the above passages Shyamala Ji👏👏 ⭐️⭐️remarkable analysis and bang on with these few passages and some more.

Their scenes seem kind of forced lately ... and do not seem natural like they did before. Although I still enjoy the sight of them together, and only because it is Asha and Rithvik together onscreen. Purvi, who was once upon a time a very intelligent girl is shown arguing with Arjun, for speaking ill for Punni, who had once made an mms on her and circulated it. I mean, what do the CVs think the viewers are. This is not the Purvi I have known all along in the show. Purvi is backing her cousin, who had not once but on several occasions tried to cause harm to her.

And she says to Arjun ' how can you speak like this for Punni, she is my cousin'🤣
I was laughing when she said this and I also wanted to give her one tight slap. I was like ... this is not the Purvi I've known. The CVs sure know how to make mincemeat of erstwhile strong characters.

Trish

Originally posted by: sashashyam
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Yes, the Arjun-Purvi track is flat and dull now. I think the team that wrote the earlier scenes, the airport one, the rain sequences in the park and on the bridge, even the ones in his kholi, is not there any more. They could never be writing this pedestrian stuff, which is being shot with bad angles to match, from the back of the car for the last two. It is not Purvi whose behaviour is due to her having been bashed on the head, it is the CVs, and we are suffering the consequences.

The tone of the Arjun-Purvi scenes of late is what Victorian novelists would have called 'arch', a kind of fake coquetry that was thought proper in those days, Just listen once more to Purvi complaining about Arjun having said "Tumse shaadi karke hi chodoonga". It is plain silly and so affected.And you are right, Jyoti,that little girl voice of hers is becoming much of a muchness in these scenes. There is not an iota of tenderness or real warmth, or any realisation of what they have achieved in finally being together as a couple.

Purvi's rishta nibhana is so irritating that one wants to box her ears. She actually asks Arjun how he can talk like that about her cousin! And what is all this about abandoning one's ego to preserve rishtas? Where does the ego come into this?

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jdronamraju

@jdronamraju

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#50

I could not see the last part, Shyamala, as they had not uploaded it for some technical issues. But, anyway, nothing lost.

I agree to everything you said in reply to Mandy's post and you know my feelings on the same. So, wont go into that.

I think Punni might have told Ovi during the "Silent" talk they had in the end. I am presuming for now, for why else would she organize this dinner. and also Punni tells her mother it is useful to her, this dinner I mean. That is why, I think someting is gonna happen then. When did the CV's care about semantics that they think we will wonder how Ovi knows about it...Right?

The 'golddigger' angle is the only thing that I could think of. If you watch carefully, Punni doesnt tell Ovi, a way to get Arjun back, she just tells her how to protect Arjun. But, this Ovi, in her own delusions, didnt get that. For her, both are synonymous. But, that was not Punni's plan. I rather face these two, than have Vishnu angle, which is more dangerous and more damaging. This whole Punni track is also probably to side track us, and they might still have something else big (like Vishnu) in store for us..

I ididnt get the time line either. No the dinner is not over yet. They are going to the court in the morning, and Vinod calls them about when they are coming over and Purvi says as soon as they are done. That was puzzling. I thought they were going for dinner that same day. So, what does in a while mean? Time sense is never a PR forte, anyway..But, the dinner drama starts after the court drama.

Ofcourse, the court drama is not going to go our way. Else, they wouldnt have even started the court scenes. The more people, especially the cop, stress about it, the less favorable it is going to be. That is my worry too. As days go by, maybe it is then the SS kicks into Purvi when she is called in as a witness... or the lawyer twists it to make it look in favor of Vishnu. It could also be that Varsha talks to Purvi, so Purvi ends up giving a favorable witness to Vishnu..Got to be seen.

I have to see Vishnu's impudence though in the last part. But, Very consistent as a bad boy !! Atleast some one is true their character.

Can I say it once though.. I would like to SMACK Ms. Purvi once to wake her up out of her stupor that she is in. Quoting rishtas, sanskars, family loyalty and all !! What the hell does she mean by "ego"...😡..OK, I am not gonna go there, or I will get all riled up again. Trying to control myself ...

If she persists in going this way, it is for sure, written on the wall, she is going to get it real hard, when she loses Arjun..For Arjun, might be willing and toeing her line now, but once he is hurt by any of her actions, it is going to be a different ball game altogether...He has his pride, after all. It will be she, who has to pursue him then...

Have a good weekend, Shyamala...

Originally posted by: sashashyam
Yes, Jyothi, you got that dead right. I never thought of the marriage expenses being, covered by an advance alimony payment or divorce settlement. And how much of alimony? Many Indian women would be thrilled to receive such generous payments.

As for the CC, I cannot see how she can land up at the dinner; that would expose Punni's hand in it at once, for if she had not told Ovi about the dinner, how else would Ovi have known about it? Punni would not want to be caught out in that fashion so soon; she will need more time for her Grand Design.

Secondly, how are they to 'expose' Purvi to Arjun as a golddigger? It is non starter. It has to be something else, unless they want us to have a good laugh at Punni falling flat on her face once more, while the real threat comes from elsewhere, very likely Vishnu.

I have written enough about Purvi's stupidity to Mandy, so I shall desist here. Let us hope she does not put the coping stone on her other follies thus far by turning into a hostile witness in the court to save Vishnu, when the case comes up for hearing.

It is not that now, I presume, for Vishnu is not in the dock, but then again, what do such procedural details mean for the CVs? SP Sameer Rane's assurance to Manav makes it practically a dead cert that the case will NOT go their way. They have not called Purvi as a witness as yet, but she should be their prime witness!

Now, court cases start in the morning, around 10 am. Purvi and Arjun are going to Punni's for dinner. That should mean that the dinner was on the previous evening and the court scene is the next morning? Then why have they not yet shown us what happened at the dinner?

Vishnu is getting to be the episode stealer these days. This one was excellent, both for his glowering looks as he contemplates the blow to his reputation in kidnapping circles because of 2 big 'missions' gone awry, and later for his waving impudently at Manav and doing an even more impudent namaste to him. But why is Varsha dismayed at seeing Archana there? Surely she should have expected her to be present at the case concerning the kidnapping of her daughter?

Shyamala

PS: Though it is quite rare, bank officers might go to the home of a very important client to save his time, especially for big transactions.

Edited by jdronamraju - 13 years ago

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